what is wrong with people nowadays?

[cookiedough]

http://www.channel3000.com/news/man-stabbed-7-times-after-viking-inflatable-vandalized-police-say/42038332

I can see being loyal to the Packers or other favorite sports team, but to come into someone elses yard and start slashing with a knife an inflatable Viking, even in Packerland,  is insane.  Then,  when get confronted with owner, you take a razor blade and start slashing the homeowner several times.  This was in Stoughton even, a  nearby town, and their mascot is a Viking as well.   

The homeowner comments the guy was lucky to not have his concealed carry or that young fellow would be shot. 

Makes you wonder even in small town America to lock your doors and keep your garage door closed even if home, ya just never know what weirdo will invade your space.  I know several neighbors home or not that leave their doors unlocked and garage door open all day long. 

[Gavin_Sons]

exactly why i carry at all times even at home sitting in my recliner. you just never know

[dreamaker]

http://www.channel3000.com/news/man-stabbed-7-times-after-viking-inflatable-vandalized-police-say/42038332

I can see being loyal to the Packers or other favorite sports team, but to come into someone elses yard and start slashing with a knife an inflatable Viking, even in Packerland,  is insane.  Then,  when get confronted with owner, you take a razor blade and start slashing the homeowner several times.  This was in Stoughton even, a  nearby town, and their mascot is a Viking as well.   

The homeowner comments the guy was lucky to not have his concealed carry or that young fellow would be shot. 

Makes you wonder even in small town America to lock your doors and keep your garage door closed even if home, ya just never know what weirdo will invade your space.  I know several neighbors home or not that leave their doors unlocked and garage door open all day long. 

I believe people are beginning to lose their sense of reality; I am not a sports guy, so I am outside looking in. I noticed the past couple years TV has got flooded with sports, especially football, I would say it was a little excessive.  And it gets people so rallied; they sometimes seem to lose control of their mental facilities.  If you do it enough, I think maybe you start to lose you sense of reality and do stupid things like that. And when they are in court, they will show graduation picture of them, and everybody saying what a good person they are, and expect to dismiss it all by saying they are sorry, they had a weak moment.  Other than that, I would have to say, “Some excuses are better than others” Right!  People now a days think there is no repercussions for their actions, and when they get nailed, they think sorry excuses it.

[old2soon]

NEVER more than a short reach away from a fully loaded AND operational fire arm. Gotten to the point I feel "wrong" with out the extra weight. I also PRAY I'll Never need to use them on a Human. RIDE SAFE.

[RainMaker]

I think it's because the United States has gone from a "we" to a "me" society.

Democratic rule when the majority decide is no longer in play - one person can affect the rights of hundreds due to a perceived slight or offense.  

John Kennedy's words only live in history books.  And schools teach history differently these days.  When I grew up, the USA was looked at as a great place, one worth defending, a country to be proud of and one we were lucky to live in.  Today, the history being taught is about how terrible the USA is, as an oppressive government who violated peoples rights throughout it's existence. Our current President has said we have been arrogant, dismissive and derisive. Not exactly a cheerleader for his country. It's not hard to understand why some won't stand for the national anthem - it's what they've been taught in school.  

Because of the "me" society, people feel they can attack anything that goes against their view and opinion.  A Packer fan attacking a Viking decoration and it's owner, Bernie Sanders followers attacking Trump supporters, Black Lives Matter attacking someone just because they are not black - too many examples.

Rant over.  We'll now return to your usual programming.

[old2soon]

Well if the "collective"-borrowed from another post-Believes/thinks/hopes it's better somewhere else-please do NOT let the door bang ya in da ass on da way out!  If change is merited do it in a Peaceful legal way. BUT with the folks in deception central having LESS than a clue!  RIDE SAFE

[TallRider]

Maybe this may explain things a little. Anyone with common sence can't understand liberals but they apparently have some sort of squed sence of were we should go in this election

[NewValker]

I think it's because so many don't have, or had pussies for fathers.
No one at home to teach right from wrong and to kick their ass when they did wrong.
I know my father was the last person I wanted to piss off, disrespect, or disappoint.

And of course it's never their fault & they're all victims....

just my .02,
Craig

[cookiedough]

I guess Packer fans, or should I say NON Viking fans,  here in WI are no better than Vikings fans when in MN.   I know well over a decade ago a lady I know went to the Vikings stadium, a die hard Packer fan,  for the football game.  She was cheering for the Pack and a Vikings fans threw a bottle of beer at her and hit her on her head.  The guy got ejected out of the stadium but no stitches were needed.  If was me who got hit with a bottle of beer,  he/she would probably need some stitches but then I as well probably would have got ejected out of the stadium as well ruining watching the expensive football trip/game.

People need to get a life and LEAVE others alone.  If you do something you know is wrong or illegal,  then suffer the consequences being worst case scenario shot at and dead. 

Worst thing I remember doing was to my then pissy/grumpy neighbor when his dog crap in my yard and I got sick of stepping in it or around it and took a shovel and flung it back in his own yard, but instead of flinging it in his yard, it went a tad bit to far and stuck LITERALLY to his vinyl siding about 4 feet up off the ground..   

[art]

And people used to think people in other countries were nuts for raising cain during a soccer game. Here they will kill you.

[Bighead]

I think it's because so many don't have, or had pussies for fathers.
No one at home to teach right from wrong and to kick their ass when they did wrong.
I know my father was the last person I wanted to piss off, disrespect, or disappoint.

And of course it's never their fault & they're all victims....

just my .02,
Craig

+1
people are too scared to kick some ass of the little hoodlums for fear of being prosecuted for child abuse.

[dreamaker]

I think one of the root causes comes from bad parenting.  First, parents always push, win, win, win and success is everything?  Thing is, strange as it may sound, the parent never teach them to fail gracefully. What that is, when the parent stand in the background and lets the child confront their failures and find their own solutions and they learn how to pick themselves up, upon failure and eventually find their own successes.  Successes should be earned, and not a given. Because if they don’t learn to pick themselves up, they can’t deal with the simple and minor setbacks in life, and they react in a negative way, to themselves or to others, when they are confronted with every day setbacks.  They can’t deal with that, and they lash out and blame everyone else.

 The second thing is, parents using media as a babysitter, with all the trash on TV, smartphones, tablets and computers.   Children are like sponges, and when they are trying to acquire what is right and what they learn what the wrong normal, then things like that, and worst, is the result.  These children and young adults are the results of bad parenting. Now we have to deal with the repercussions.
Also some adults act the same way, me, me, me, I am sure you know one.

[JimC]

I think one of the root causes comes from bad parenting.  First, parents always push, win, win, win and success is everything?  Thing is, strange as it may sound, the parent never teach them to fail gracefully. What that is, when the parent stand in the background and lets the child confront their failures and find their own solutions and they learn how to pick themselves up, upon failure and eventually find their own successes.  Successes should be earned, and not a given. Because if they don’t learn to pick themselves up, they can’t deal with the simple and minor setbacks in life, and they react in a negative way, to themselves or to others, when they are confronted with every day setbacks.  They can’t deal with that, and they lash out and blame everyone else.

You hit the nail on the head with that! ^^^

My wife works in a local community college and from the story's she tells, your assessment is very scary, but true.

Jim

[Bighead]

I think one of the root causes comes from bad parenting.  First, parents always push, win, win, win and success is everything?  Thing is, strange as it may sound, the parent never teach them to fail gracefully. What that is, when the parent stand in the background and lets the child confront their failures and find their own solutions and they learn how to pick themselves up, upon failure and eventually find their own successes.  Successes should be earned, and not a given. Because if they don’t learn to pick themselves up, they can’t deal with the simple and minor setbacks in life, and they react in a negative way, to themselves or to others, when they are confronted with every day setbacks.  They can’t deal with that, and they lash out and blame everyone else.

You hit the nail on the head with that! ^^^

My wife works in a local community college and from the story's she tells, your assessment is very scary, but true.

Jim

Yep every kid nowadays gets a trophy for participation not for winning. Total Horse crap. They get the same as the winners so why try harder?
Got my first job at 12 and have been employed since, never ask for help never wanted help I wanted to stand on my own and by the grace of GOD I do every day

[solo1]

Yeah, responsibility is totally lacking.  We are on the third generation of "I don't give a sh**" parents.

When I was 14 I was helping to support my family, Dad was sick and Mom didn't work.

Now Mom doesn't work and the Dad is absent.  No worries tho, on the Dole.

[dreamaker]

There are things in life that are not so pretty, that is to our benefit in the long run, what they are is life lessons. But when the parent shelter their children and have no experience with life issues, the results can go many ways. For instance Bulling!  Bulling is a fact of life, and is part of our life lesson, of learning how to deal with these issues, how to deal with bulling is to go into it, full power like a wood chipper. you may lose, you may win, but in the most part, you win, because you get their respect and they leave you alone. I think a primal instinct is when beings, appear weak, the peers challenge them to strengthen the weak beings, preparing them for life. If you watch animal kingdom programs you will see the young challenging one another in preparation for life, it may appear like rough play but it is not, we are no different. It's just, we are suppose to be smarter.  BUT!! that parent over protect these children, and they don't have any idea how to deal with these life issues, things are cruel, they are suppose to be, so they are not in the future. That is why children whack out, do drugs, bring weapons to school and do bad things in life, like they do.  Just one observation. Hope this makes sense to you.  We are just one part of the animal kingdom, the rules are all the same across the board, we just always trying to break them.

[3fan4life]

There are things in life that are not so pretty, that is to our benefit in the long run, what they are is life lessons. But when the parent shelter their children and have no experience with life issues, the results can go many ways. For instance Bulling!  Bulling is a fact of life, and is part of our life lesson, of learning how to deal with these issues, how to deal with bulling is to go into it, full power like a wood chipper. you may lose, you may win, but in the most part, you win, because you get their respect and they leave you alone. I think a primal instinct is when beings, appear weak, the peers challenge them to strengthen the weak beings, preparing them for life. If you watch animal kingdom programs you will see the young challenging one another in preparation for life, it may appear like rough play but it is not, we are no different. It's just, we are suppose to be smarter.  BUT!! that parent over protect these children, and they don't have any idea how to deal with these life issues, things are cruel, they are suppose to be, so they are not in the future. That is why children whack out, do drugs, bring weapons to school and do bad things in life, like they do.  Just one observation. Hope this makes sense to you.  We are just one part of the animal kingdom, the rules are all the same across the board, we just always trying to break them.

The problem with this is that society is teaching our children that they cannot stand up for themselves.

Even Kindergarteners are being suspended from schools for getting into a fight.

All across the board at all grade levels the solution for bad behavior is suspension.

What happened to after school detention?


I'll bet that most here have stayed after school at least once and cleaned erasers (yeah I know they dont use chalkboards anymore).

Our goverment run public school system is in shambles and no one is trying to fix it.

There is no way that I would send a child of mine to public shool today.

That system is irrevocably broken.

Our children are taught Kumbaya with no personal responsibility or values.

[cookiedough]

There are things in life that are not so pretty, that is to our benefit in the long run, what they are is life lessons. But when the parent shelter their children and have no experience with life issues, the results can go many ways. For instance Bulling!  Bulling is a fact of life, and is part of our life lesson, of learning how to deal with these issues, how to deal with bulling is to go into it, full power like a wood chipper. you may lose, you may win, but in the most part, you win, because you get their respect and they leave you alone. I think a primal instinct is when beings, appear weak, the peers challenge them to strengthen the weak beings, preparing them for life. If you watch animal kingdom programs you will see the young challenging one another in preparation for life, it may appear like rough play but it is not, we are no different. It's just, we are suppose to be smarter.  BUT!! that parent over protect these children, and they don't have any idea how to deal with these life issues, things are cruel, they are suppose to be, so they are not in the future. That is why children whack out, do drugs, bring weapons to school and do bad things in life, like they do.  Just one observation. Hope this makes sense to you.  We are just one part of the animal kingdom, the rules are all the same across the board, we just always trying to break them.

The problem with this is that society is teaching our children that they cannot stand up for themselves.

Even Kindergarteners are being suspended from schools for getting into a fight.

All across the board at all grade levels the solution for bad behavior is suspension.

What happened to after school detention?


I'll bet that most here have stayed after school at least once and cleaned erasers (yeah I know they dont use chalkboards anymore).

Our goverment run public school system is in shambles and no one is trying to fix it.

There is no way that I would send a child of mine to public shool today.

That system is irrevocably broken.

Our children are taught Kumbaya with no personal responsibility or values.

I disagree on not sending a child of mine to a public school today.   If you think public schools are bad,  most private schools are even more sheltered with handouts galore, although the parents are surely paying for it. 

I agree though that a lot of public schools are teaching kids that standing up for your rights/standing up to bullying is to basically let it go and not fight back.  Although,  bullying today is all done on their cell phones and at least around me,  fighting form of bullying is rarely done in school today.   I cannot think of one time my kids in middle/high school ever got into a fight ever and almost all kids do not ever push/fight/hit in school.  Although one mentally challenged girl did hit my daughter in middle school to take her own mental frustration out on someone. My daughter just happened to be standing behind her when it happened.  That girl did get suspended for 3 days but not because she almost broke my daughters ribs (got bruised ribs/stomach out of one hard punch), but because it took 3 teachers to drag her out of the classroom with her biting, kicking, spitting, and hitting all the way after to the office.  Had a chat with the principal of middle school the next few days and basically told her if happens again,  I will take it further up the chain with police to get that kid out of our school since she cannot control her mental emotions.  The girl was in my daughters class and just graduated high school with 'the system' just pushing her thru the classes helping her out with homework/tests all thru school.  Back in the day if happened to one of us,  we would have HIT back and defended ourselves, but this was a one time, no warning it was coming, case in todays schooling system.   Heck, if my daughter hit back,  she would have probably gotten suspended as well for defending herself. 

[Gryphon Rider]

The best things we as men can do for our kids and for our society is to follow through on our commitment to love our wives faithfully, and to love our kids unconditionally, which includes correction, as necessary, to the appropriate degree.    Display the character you want your children to emulate.  And make sure your "display" is authentic; once kids hit their early teens, they are excellent hypocrisy detectors.

[Gryphon Rider]

Worst thing I remember doing was to my then pissy/grumpy neighbor when his dog crap in my yard and I got sick of stepping in it or around it and took a shovel and flung it back in his own yard, but instead of flinging it in his yard, it went a tad bit to far and stuck LITERALLY to his vinyl siding about 4 feet up off the ground..   

How long did you have to look at it, being more prominently displayed on his house than on your lawn?

[dreamaker]

Something should be understood, when we discuss things on this board and we try and get an images of what is being said. So in terms of bad parenting, we may see a parent in an old beat up LazyBoy, in their underwear with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other, watching Jerry Springer Show.  Well not so true, they are probably the people down your street, or next-door or even a family member.  They are mostly good people, the thing is, and they have the best intentions for their children, but they kill them with kindness.  How many times have you heard parent say, “I am going to give my children what I didn’t have” Well! That is a recipe for disaster, if you think I am wrong, watch the News. See, children are two legged sponges, so when they pick up and learn things, that moment, which becomes the normal to them. What may be special and beyond to us, may be just normal day for them. Because they don’t learn the lesson of apparition, and you get that way, by the parents deny their children of earning what you get and in turn always being given everything.  Their reaction often is “You owe Me” and they always expect more from where that come from. Kids aren’t bad, they just got lost in the parents bad choices. But some parents and children wise up, and change direction for the good. Just my observations!!

[3fan4life]

There are things in life that are not so pretty, that is to our benefit in the long run, what they are is life lessons. But when the parent shelter their children and have no experience with life issues, the results can go many ways. For instance Bulling!  Bulling is a fact of life, and is part of our life lesson, of learning how to deal with these issues, how to deal with bulling is to go into it, full power like a wood chipper. you may lose, you may win, but in the most part, you win, because you get their respect and they leave you alone. I think a primal instinct is when beings, appear weak, the peers challenge them to strengthen the weak beings, preparing them for life. If you watch animal kingdom programs you will see the young challenging one another in preparation for life, it may appear like rough play but it is not, we are no different. It's just, we are suppose to be smarter.  BUT!! that parent over protect these children, and they don't have any idea how to deal with these life issues, things are cruel, they are suppose to be, so they are not in the future. That is why children whack out, do drugs, bring weapons to school and do bad things in life, like they do.  Just one observation. Hope this makes sense to you.  We are just one part of the animal kingdom, the rules are all the same across the board, we just always trying to break them.

The problem with this is that society is teaching our children that they cannot stand up for themselves.

Even Kindergarteners are being suspended from schools for getting into a fight.

All across the board at all grade levels the solution for bad behavior is suspension.

What happened to after school detention?


I'll bet that most here have stayed after school at least once and cleaned erasers (yeah I know they dont use chalkboards anymore).

Our goverment run public school system is in shambles and no one is trying to fix it.

There is no way that I would send a child of mine to public shool today.

That system is irrevocably broken.

Our children are taught Kumbaya with no personal responsibility or values.

I disagree on not sending a child of mine to a public school today.   If you think public schools are bad,  most private schools are even more sheltered with handouts galore, although the parents are surely paying for it. 

I agree though that a lot of public schools are teaching kids that standing up for your rights/standing up to bullying is to basically let it go and not fight back.  Although,  bullying today is all done on their cell phones and at least around me,  fighting form of bullying is rarely done in school today.   I cannot think of one time my kids in middle/high school ever got into a fight ever and almost all kids do not ever push/fight/hit in school.  Although one mentally challenged girl did hit my daughter in middle school to take her own mental frustration out on someone. My daughter just happened to be standing behind her when it happened.  That girl did get suspended for 3 days but not because she almost broke my daughters ribs (got bruised ribs/stomach out of one hard punch), but because it took 3 teachers to drag her out of the classroom with her biting, kicking, spitting, and hitting all the way after to the office.  Had a chat with the principal of middle school the next few days and basically told her if happens again,  I will take it further up the chain with police to get that kid out of our school since she cannot control her mental emotions.  The girl was in my daughters class and just graduated high school with 'the system' just pushing her thru the classes helping her out with homework/tests all thru school.  Back in the day if happened to one of us,  we would have HIT back and defended ourselves, but this was a one time, no warning it was coming, case in todays schooling system.   Heck, if my daughter hit back,  she would have probably gotten suspended as well for defending herself. 

By private school I mean Christian School, fortunately there are many good ones in our area.

On of the good things about private schools is that you have choices.

Whereas, with public schools you have NO choice.


I have a brother who teaches high school in NC, he complains constantly about how bad the system is.

Yet, his view of the world has become so liberal that he can't see what's causing the problems.

His solution is the same as the Democraps, "Just keep throwing more money at it".

 

[Gryphon Rider]

I have a brother who teaches high school in NC, he complains constantly about how bad the system is.
Yet, his view of the world has become so liberal that he can't see what's causing the problems.
His solution is the same as the Democraps, "Just keep throwing more money at it".

It's a wonder that Canadian and American society survived with all those kids educated in underfunded single-room schoolhouses.  Crime must have been running rampant in the countryside in the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries.

[3fan4life]

I have a brother who teaches high school in NC, he complains constantly about how bad the system is.
Yet, his view of the world has become so liberal that he can't see what's causing the problems.
His solution is the same as the Democraps, "Just keep throwing more money at it".

It's a wonder that Canadian and American society survived with all those kids educated in underfunded single-room schoolhouses.  Crime must have been running rampant in the countryside in the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries.

Isn't that the truth.

I'm betting that their "Education" was greatly enhanced by the use of the teacher's paddle and their father's razor strap.

[dreamaker]

If I had a dime for every time I got paddled, I could have retired along time ago, thing is I deserve it. I was messing around, so I paid for it.

[art]

One of the worst things I had to do in Catholic school when I swore at another classmate was to drink holy water. I thought oh boy this is it. Funny now when I think of it. I had to put up with bullies in school and had to deal with it. I fought back and it did stop,bullies are cowards. Nowadays it's different and can be deadly. Most school shootings by students are the result of bullying.

[dreamaker]

I went to Catholic school and the nuns beat the crap out of me with hand brushes, It didn't dawn on them I was hyper active, and that it wasn't demons in side of me.  But you are right, standing up for yourself these days can have deadly consequences. Of course that Gangsta mentality didn't have anything to do with it. It is not a one fix all solution.

[cookiedough]

all you guys going to Catholic schools were rebel rousers when you should have been so much nicer?   

My dad use to comment to me going to a Catholic school, etc. when growing up way back in the 40's that the nuns use to call him the little bishop and sounded like he also got more than just a hand slap when not behaving.  I guess nuns were pretty strict back then. 

[dreamaker]

Nuns were very strict!!  Rebel rouser, not really, I was pretty quit, but extremely independent, and they didn't go for that. Because I wasn't a trouble maker or I didn't disrupted the class. Lots of times, my mind was some place else.  I had a funny  flash back a few months ago, I was the shame of my family, in the first or second grade.  I was suspended from Catholic school for two weeks, well in a Catholic family that is very shameful. BUT I realized something, about the suspension, the nuns tried to break me, and they failed so they suspended me, because I beat them.  Of course my Dad made it the worst two weeks of my life, did more school work at home than I ever did in Catholic school.