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man, that looks like 1/2 the police force for 1 guy, good time to rob a bank with no other cops around to go to another crime scene? That one cop around the 3 minute mark kicking and kneeing him was probably uncalled for when 4-5 others are on top of him already.
looks like the guy got tasered and did not drop to the ground, weird what drugs can make you withstand I guess?
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That's ugly. Sad what police officers have to deal with.
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Stood Shore Patrol in the P I. Big dudes get Super Amped up on drugs they ARE hard to control specially if they git it in their mind they wanna whip some S P ass. Seen 4 big Full Time Shore Patrol play hell puttin one guy down who was around 6' 3" and around a solid 280 or so. Dude was strung out on Something cuz I saw him take a couple serious hits to his gourd and it just pissed him off. Course the next day he-the perp-looked like he'd been run over by a truck-3 or 4 times. Some of those drugs turn them into superman-fer a little while. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2016, 03:28:29 AM » |
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Honestly, I couldn't advocate shooting Huff but, once he became violent the rules changed.
Really makes ya wanna go be a LEO huh? NOT!!!!
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2016, 03:31:05 AM » |
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That one cop around the 3 minute mark kicking and kneeing him was probably uncalled for when 4-5 others are on top of him already. Hard to tell, but I think the perp still has the original officer in his grip and won't let go. |
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2016, 04:54:51 AM » |
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The liberals and their lawyers took away the effective Baton esp when it was used across the knee. let them use tazers that don't always work. have somewhat taken away the gun which always works as this officer stated she was afraid to use.
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2016, 07:17:47 AM » |
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I think one thing is very evident.
This kind of thing is going to get better for LEOs and the law-abiding public if Trump brings back support for our LEOs from the White House.
And it's going to get worse if Hillary is elected and continues down the path Obama has blazed for her. If that happens it might be time to just let the criminals have the Democratic areas. It seems to be what they want anyway.
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2016, 07:39:57 AM » |
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2016, 07:42:19 AM » |
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This is NOT going to get any better until "The deafening sound of citizens standing up" shames the "Alt Left" media...This starts with You and I refusing to read their papers or turn on their channels...CNN New York Times, NBC, CBS, Boston Globe...ETC.
If all the Deplorables turn them off for good(that's half the population according to the polls) it will damage them, maybe beyond repair...but it starts here...not out there somewhere!!!
I personally have a long laundry list of media...including TV shows that I refuse to endorse by turning them OFF.
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The liberals ...
good one Baldo. I once used the term Teanderthals as an attempt to start a thread on humorous neologisms. All that happened, besides more Hillary bashing, was my getting chastised for using an insulting word, including from a moderator. But libatard? Yeah that's okay and a term I read here all the time. |
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2016, 10:33:16 AM » |
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The liberals ...
good one Baldo. I once used the term Teanderthals as an attempt to start a thread on humorous neologisms. All that happened, besides more Hillary bashing, was my getting chastised for using an insulting word, including from a moderator. But libatard? Yeah that's okay and a term I read here all the time. Thanks.....in this case I have to grade on a curve.... |
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2016, 10:48:58 AM » |
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The liberals ...
good one Baldo. I once used the term Teanderthals as an attempt to start a thread on humorous neologisms. All that happened, besides more Hillary bashing, was my getting chastised for using an insulting word, including from a moderator. But libatard? Yeah that's okay and a term I read here all the time. Do you have a better name for it? Or are you just upset you cant give conservatives a pet name that sticks? |
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Liberalism is a mental disorder as documented by many Psychiatrists and other professionals such as Winston Churchill and Albert Einstein. |
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Liberalism is a mental disorder as documented by many Psychiatrists and other professionals such as Winston Chruchill and Albert Einstein.
What it is, I don't know but, it appears to be some kind of virus that spreads (effects the part of the brain dealing with good judgement). Several localities, cities and even states seem to be seriously infected. Other areas, not so much. It's a shame we can't spray for what ever carries this bug.......... Wait, maybe............... Nah, forget that. Once the virus dies off and those affected come back to their senses, they'll regret all those things they did while sick. |
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Liberalism is a mental disorder as documented by many Psychiatrists and other professionals such as Winston Chruchill and Albert Einstein.
What it is, I don't know but, it appears to be some kind of virus that spreads (effects the part of the brain dealing with good judgement). Several localities, cities and even states seem to be seriously infected. Other areas, not so much. It's a shame we can't spray for what ever carries this bug.......... Wait, maybe............... Nah, forget that. Once the virus dies off and those affected come back to their senses, they'll regret all those things they did while sick. "If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain." they don't grow up, but become self-centered and self-serving and self...... |
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Liberalism is a mental disorder as documented by many Psychiatrists and other professionals such as Winston Churchill and Albert Einstein.
And if it weren't for Liberalism, Albert Einstein would have "enjoyed" an early death in the gas chamber. Ironic, isn't it? |
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The liberals ...
good one Baldo. I once used the term Teanderthals as an attempt to start a thread on humorous neologisms. All that happened, besides more Hillary bashing, was my getting chastised for using an insulting word, including from a moderator. But libatard? Yeah that's okay and a term I read here all the time. Do you have a better name for it? Or are you just upset you cant give conservatives a pet name that sticks? well, how about just simply liberal? I'm a moderate but don't refer to others of other convictions of being retarded although I think both extremes are wrong. And I can think of a lot of terms that might or might not stick but why be insulting? Why try and bully people? I'll leave that for Mr. Trump. |
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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2016, 03:02:37 PM » |
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Let get this back to the point.... away from the liberal garbage.
First, I am a cop; been so for 25 years.
Second, I don't work in Chicago, or anything close to it, but in my time I have been in my share of knock-down, drag-outs, with drunks, dopers, assh*les, and "saints". Been bit, punched, wrestled, slapped, spit on, crapped on, you name it.
Third, I heard about this story all over the news, but never saw the video.
After watching this video, it is the poorest example of "she coulda/shoulda/had the right to" shoot him that I have ever seen. I am not going to dissect it second by second, but here's what I saw. AND - I AM NOT TRYING TO SAY THE COPS WERE WRONG, just that this is a poor example.
The male and female Chicago cops try to physically restrain him by doing arm holds, that didn't work. The female remains engaged while the male officer (off camera) is Tasering him. It is then they realize that the Taser ain't gonna work. From there on out, for any officer, it becomes a "this is pretty much going to suck" situation.
The female cop stays physically engaged with him and it very quickly turns to him beginning to punch her and then pulls her to the ground. She at no time, could have drawn her weapon or shot. Now that she is engaged, the other officers can't shoot either as the female and the druggy are basically holding each other.
My biggest dilemma in seeing this is, when druggy starts punching and pulls her to him, male Chicago cop just stands there for a second and watches it happen. Officer with "Sheriff" vest on does not engage as well. Then once they do, forget about shooting him, they are all wrapped up together on the ground.
This in unfortunately where police work gets ugly. In that pile, arm holds, Taser and all that other physical restraint crap goes out the windows. Time for a street fight. If he ain't gonna let go and continues to fight, an ASS BEATING is called for, until such a time he stops what he is doing.
At no time was this a situation where the cops physically could have shot him.
People are grabbing on this as a example of hesitant police.... it isn't.
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Liberalism is a mental disorder as documented by many Psychiatrists and other professionals such as Winston Churchill and Albert Einstein.
And if it weren't for Liberalism, Albert Einstein would have "enjoyed" an early death in the gas chamber. Ironic, isn't it? liberals/liberalism back then is not what it is now. read your history. nice try. |
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well, how about just simply liberal? Whoa! I didn't think that kind of language was allowed here. Most folks I know consider that word/title a cuss word.  |
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2016, 04:33:43 PM » |
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Let get this back to the point.... away from the liberal garbage.
First, I am a cop; been so for 25 years.
Second, I don't work in Chicago, or anything close to it, but in my time I have been in my share of knock-down, drag-outs, with drunks, dopers, assh*les, and "saints". Been bit, punched, wrestled, slapped, spit on, crapped on, you name it.
Third, I heard about this story all over the news, but never saw the video.
After watching this video, it is the poorest example of "she coulda/shoulda/had the right to" shoot him that I have ever seen. I am not going to dissect it second by second, but here's what I saw. AND - I AM NOT TRYING TO SAY THE COPS WERE WRONG, just that this is a poor example.
The male and female Chicago cops try to physically restrain him by doing arm holds, that didn't work. The female remains engaged while the male officer (off camera) is Tasering him. It is then they realize that the Taser ain't gonna work. From there on out, for any officer, it becomes a "this is pretty much going to suck" situation.
The female cop stays physically engaged with him and it very quickly turns to him beginning to punch her and then pulls her to the ground. She at no time, could have drawn her weapon or shot. Now that she is engaged, the other officers can't shoot either as the female and the druggy are basically holding each other.
My biggest dilemma in seeing this is, when druggy starts punching and pulls her to him, male Chicago cop just stands there for a second and watches it happen. Officer with "Sheriff" vest on does not engage as well. Then once they do, forget about shooting him, they are all wrapped up together on the ground.
This in unfortunately where police work gets ugly. In that pile, arm holds, Taser and all that other physical restraint crap goes out the windows. Time for a street fight. If he ain't gonna let go and continues to fight, an ASS BEATING is called for, until such a time he stops what he is doing.
At no time was this a situation where the cops physically could have shot him.
People are grabbing on this as a example of hesitant police.... it isn't.
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well, how about just simply liberal? Whoa! I didn't think that kind of language was allowed here. Most folks I know consider that word/title a cuss word. You're welcome to join us, we have the good stuff..... |
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well, how about just simply liberal? Whoa! I didn't think that kind of language was allowed here. Most folks I know consider that word/title a cuss word. You're welcome to join us, we have the good stuff..... Bob, I'm gonna be nice and just respond with a no thanks. |
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well, how about just simply liberal? Whoa! I didn't think that kind of language was allowed here. Most folks I know consider that word/title a cuss word. You're welcome to join us, we have the good stuff..... Bob, I'm gonna be nice and just respond with a no thanks.  |
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well, how about just simply liberal? Whoa! I didn't think that kind of language was allowed here. Most folks I know consider that word/title a cuss word. You're welcome to join us, we have the good stuff..... Bob, I'm gonna be nice and just respond with a no thanks. Alright, you can't say I didn't try..... |
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Liberalism is a mental disorder as documented by many Psychiatrists and other professionals such as Winston Churchill and Albert Einstein.
And if it weren't for Liberalism, Albert Einstein would have "enjoyed" an early death in the gas chamber. Ironic, isn't it? liberals/liberalism back then is not what it is now. read your history. nice try. I DO read my history and that's why I can bring it up, and be absolutely correct in doing so. So "nice try" to re-write history to appease your political agenda. You want "liberal history"? Why don't you read and learn what life was REALLY like back at the turn of the century for the average worker - not the whitewashed Hollywood / conservative media history, where the poor were noble, struggling but undeterred, washed and fed - and get back to me.  Nope, the labor riots and strikes were "socialist agendas" against the good wholesomeness of perfect capitalism, weren't they? And who allowed these Irish, Asians and Jews in? They are bad influences on our good Christian society! |
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Liberalism is a mental disorder as documented by many Psychiatrists and other professionals such as Winston Churchill and Albert Einstein.
And if it weren't for Liberalism, Albert Einstein would have "enjoyed" an early death in the gas chamber. Ironic, isn't it? liberals/liberalism back then is not what it is now. read your history. nice try. I DO read my history and that's why I can bring it up, and be absolutely correct in doing so. So "nice try" to re-write history to appease your political agenda. You want "liberal history"? Why don't you read and learn what life was REALLY like back at the turn of the century for the average worker - not the whitewashed Hollywood / conservative media history, where the poor were noble, struggling but undeterred, washed and fed - and get back to me. Nope, the labor riots and strikes were "socialist agendas" against the good wholesomeness of perfect capitalism, weren't they? And who allowed these Irish, Asians and Jews in? They are bad influences on our good Christian society! as a good liberal u changed the story. u started with Einstein getting out of germany, I responded and u answer about something completely different from your original statement. in fact history shows Albert was already in this country on a visa working as a professor when Hilter came into power, so your statement about gas chambers is completely non sequitur. Liberalism had ZERO to do with him being in the USA. Again know your history. If I refer to liberalism it is what we have in this country which started out as the Whig party and not what it was and started in europe, which was still socialism. |
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