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I had my first day back to work from vacation today. I got all the usual questions about how it was and did we have fun. I answered the best I could in the time I had. Then about half way thru the day a vendor who I just know in passing walked by. I said my usual greeting of "Hey, how's it going?". He is a nice young man of about 25-30 years old. Seems to be a good worker. He says to me "Hey, Bro". I just thought it funny the difference in the way we treat people compared to when I was that age. I would have never thought of addressing someone my age like that. I don't think he meant any disrespect or anything, and I didn't take it as disrespectful. It just got me thinking how times have changed. My Dad made sure me and my brothers knew that we were to address people older than us as sir and ma'am . There was never a thought of something so informal. I don't know if it's better either way, just different.
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2016, 08:16:28 PM » |
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The use of Mr. and Mrs. has gone away.
When I was young and working job sites as a young man the foreman and job super were always Mr. "Smith" until they said to me just call me "John".
Now we come across adults who want kids to call them by their first name. I don't get it.
There's several people in my neighborhood left over from when I was a kid and I still call them Mr. & Mrs. and I'm 51.
As for the young man at your job, you're probably right, he didn't mean any disrespect. It was probably just one of those casual things he's use to saying that he believed you'd feel ok with.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2016, 08:27:16 PM » |
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Kindof like Jersey Mike stated, one of my sons in law<----I "think" that's proper, still refers to us as Mr and Mrs Harris....after 7 yrs. Our daughter has even tried to get him to change how he addresses us but he still insists on his way of addressing us---not that we mind.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2016, 05:45:56 AM » |
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Goes back to what we are all aware of..NO RESPECT! WE are of a different era where we were taught that, and most of us still have it.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2016, 07:11:35 AM » |
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When I was working, and still today, after getting to know someone, I refer to them as Mr. Jack or Ms. Jill, etc. I was raised to greet people with Mr. and Mrs. also, and I guess that is where it comes from, even if they are younger than me. As others have said, it is a show of respect, just not as formal as using their last names. However, there are some people that I think of as being family that I will address by their name only, as in Carl(Willow) and Lori(Motomomma). LOL
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2016, 07:27:08 AM » |
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After how I got addressed a while back, I would have been glad to be referred to as "Bro". I'm already having a hard time coming to grips with being so called "Social Security" age and I nod and greet a young man I don't know coming through a door about the same age and I get,"What say ole timer". You just got lucky.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2016, 07:39:14 AM » |
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After how I got addressed a while back, I would have been glad to be referred to as "Bro". I'm already having a hard time coming to grips with being so called "Social Security" age and I nod and greet a young man I don't know coming through a door about the same age and I get,"What say ole timer". You just got lucky.
Well that greeting sounds like he was trying to be disrespectful. The young man I was referring to isn't like that. I think that's just the way he greets people. I didn't take it as anything bad. Just seemed funny how times have changed. |
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2016, 07:59:44 AM » |
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After how I got addressed a while back, I would have been glad to be referred to as "Bro". I'm already having a hard time coming to grips with being so called "Social Security" age and I nod and greet a young man I don't know coming through a door about the same age and I get,"What say ole timer". You just got lucky.
Well that greeting sounds like he was trying to be disrespectful. The young man I as referring to isn't like that. I think that's just the way he greets people. I didn't take it as anything bad. Just seemed funny how times have changed. Since I didn't know him, I'd say you are right. But I didn't think about that, all I could think about was the age category I find myself in. Not used to that. I am finding many more times, I am treated with much more respect than I am used to. That gets me thinking the same thing. Kind of confirms what stage of life I suddenly find myself in. ??? |
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2016, 08:19:10 AM » |
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Being a 5th gen Florida boy I was raised with typical Southern manners toward people. Anyone older is Sir or Ma'am. I open doors or hold doors open for older folks and women. I always open every door for Lesa. Respect was ingrained from a young age.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2016, 12:50:12 PM » |
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Whether one is trying to be disrespectful or just is because that's the way it is is certainly open for a lot of discussion. As mentioned by several when we were brought up proper respect for elders was simply automatic. It's not that way any more. I see more and more young folks that seem to automatically almost look down on "old used up" people. Sometimes I miss the good old days.  |
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2016, 01:29:21 PM » |
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Being a 5th gen Florida boy I was raised with typical Southern manners toward people. Anyone older is Sir or Ma'am. I open doors or hold doors open for older folks and women. I always open every door for Lesa. Respect was ingrained from a young age.
OK Casey, I'm going to watch for that from now on. Now if you'd just pick up the tab when we eat out.....  Re. the original question posted, for me the respect also extends to removing your cap/hat at the table. I know these days most guys leave it on, why I'll never understand but I'm pretty much ok with it since I know I'm in a minority....foolish as that may be. As for the personal approach when greeting someone, I'll always address an older person with the Mr. or Mrs., although that's happening less and less. However I do have fun with one little lady at church who stands less than 5' tall and turned 100 years old last April. She loves to attend both the conventional service at 9:00 and the contemporary at 10:30. The second service is more for the younger attendees, they have instruments and such, it gets really rocking at times and rather loud....main reason I don't go; hurts my ears.  I don't call that little lady by her name, I've seen her sit there swaying back/forth and clapping her hands to the music so I call her "my rock star" and I always get a laugh and hug from her. She and a little black lady just a few years younger sit together and both get carried away with the music. One day I teased and suggested they start playing a Tambourine so they both started wiggling their hips and slapping like they were playing one. I go out of my way to chat with them every week and they really respond to the attention. I hope one day, if I should live so long.......  |
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2016, 01:39:18 PM » |
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Even at my elderly "old" age, I still greet anyone I don't know as sir or mam. There are times I use the term "boss" depending on the situation. It comes out naturally unless I know you then, it's hard to tell what may come out.  |
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2016, 05:10:37 PM » |
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I will never forget the judge's expression the first time one of the defendants in his courtroom called him Dude. His lawyer leaned in a whispered in his ear, and he replied..... dude, I didn't mean anything by it.
I remember my first USAF boss introducing himself to me. Hi Jess, I'm Gary Smallridge...... but you'll refer to me as Colonel or Sir. And that's just what I did. The closest thing to a term of endearment was to call him boss (privately, not across the parade ground).
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2016, 06:14:11 PM » |
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No hijack intended. "No problem" in place of "You're Welcome" just burns my ass.  |
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2016, 06:39:01 PM » |
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No hijack intended. "No problem" in place of "You're Welcome" just burns my ass. UhOh.... I think I do that all the time.  |
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2016, 06:46:01 PM » |
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No hijack intended. "No problem" in place of "You're Welcome" just burns my ass. I have a similar problem with "My Bad". |
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2016, 04:07:07 AM » |
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Trying to discuss a problem to get to common ground with someone, and you get a "whatever " just toast my ass.
I spent time in Corbin Ky. getting a fire truck built. I noticed a big difference in kids and people in general. Kids replied to their folks with respect. Yes and no followed with ma'am and sir was common. I think southern respect is still alive. I think in the north respect is in the crapper.
Been a while since I've been south, maybe it's actually gone there as well? But I enjoyed the southern attitude and respect at the time. It was refreshing to get away from the everything is about me attitude that has become so prevelent in today's society.
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2016, 04:15:41 AM » |
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No hijack intended. "No problem" in place of "You're Welcome" just burns my ass. I have a similar problem with "My Bad". I agree. What happened to "i'm sorry"? Or, "I made a mistake"? |
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2016, 04:30:54 AM » |
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I've found that if I get any grief about being old, I just say maybe you'll be lucky and die young.
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2016, 06:12:18 AM » |
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No hijack intended. "No problem" in place of "You're Welcome" just burns my ass. Agreed...I really hate that too. |
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2016, 06:53:19 PM » |
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I've found that if I get any grief about being old, I just say maybe you'll be lucky and die young.
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