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Author Topic: Not political. What's going on in Oklahoma ?  (Read 708 times)
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« on: November 07, 2016, 07:58:24 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2016, 08:00:35 AM »

Fracking.  More secifically, pumping the waste liquid from from the process back into the earth.

http://www.ecowatch.com/confirmed-oklahoma-earthquakes-caused-by-fracking-1882034344.html

For the record, I am not anti fracking.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2016, 09:16:59 AM »

Fracking.  More secifically, pumping the waste liquid from from the process back into the earth.
be careful with that word.  There are fracking deniers here crazy2
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2016, 10:21:52 AM »

It's the fracking oil companys fault. So to speak
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2016, 12:15:26 PM »

In the '70's, when I was in school in Tulsa, we were told that there were major fault lines in Oklahoma that were larger than those in California.  The main difference was that ours hadn't been active for a long time.  But probably would again in the future.  Guess what?  They are again.  I'm not going to say it is caused by fracking.  Has there been a lot of fracking in California all these years?  I'm also not going to say it is from waste water disposal, which is far more common.  It is just as likely that removing the oil and gas from under the surface has left a lot of empty space that is allowing things to shift.  We may never be certain of the cause, but it has become a reality. 

The bigger concern is the location of this one.  Cushing is a major pipeline hub and is home of one of the largest tank batteries (oil storage tanks) you will ever see. Imagine >58M barrels of crude in one place.

Oklahoma will learn to cope.  They've survived the Dust Bowl, the OKC bombing, as well as the influx of undocumented Democrats and Californians looking for affordable housing.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2016, 03:11:06 PM »

In the '70's, when I was in school in Tulsa, we were told that there were major fault lines in Oklahoma that were larger than those in California.  The main difference was that ours hadn't been active for a long time.  But probably would again in the future.  Guess what?  They are again.  I'm not going to say it is caused by fracking.  Has there been a lot of fracking in California all these years?  I'm also not going to say it is from waste water disposal, which is far more common.  It is just as likely that removing the oil and gas from under the surface has left a lot of empty space that is allowing things to shift.  We may never be certain of the cause, but it has become a reality. 

The bigger concern is the location of this one.  Cushing is a major pipeline hub and is home of one of the largest tank batteries (oil storage tanks) you will ever see. Imagine >58M barrels of crude in one place.

Oklahoma will learn to cope.  They've survived the Dust Bowl, the OKC bombing, as well as the influx of undocumented Democrats and Californians looking for affordable housing.


Ha!!! I knew they were right !!! "Aleins" all that seismic activity and valcano's erupting on the moons of Jupiter. There extracting the resources from them. Dumping there waste back. Wink as for undocumented Democrats. Same happening here in Florida hopefully the Cubans can of set  the trend.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2016, 04:10:50 PM »

The map on this page might give a better view of where injections are compared to the new earthquakes. Pretty good evidence that water injection has lubed up the rock layer down below.

http://www.ecowatch.com/lawsuit-filed-over-oklahomas-fracking-earthquakes-as-its-third-largest-1882175363.html
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2016, 07:13:21 PM »

and here I thought it was the 1500hp street racers chewing up the asphalt on the TV show Street Outlaws that was just on tonight which they race in Oklahoma as well.    Those boyz haul _utt cannot imagine spending 10K on a whim to get their cars ready for racing every few weeks or more overhauling and tuning their engines, even if they own their own machine shops is not cheap for the average street racer. 

but yah, makes sense taking oil out of the ground might be causing all this movement.  Let us hope it does not get any worse not only for the safety of people there, but also the loss of oil increasing gas prices eventually in the U.S. 
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2016, 06:43:49 AM »

I was born and raised in Tulsa. Left there almost 20 years ago. The only "earthquakes" I experienced were the occassional blasts from the gravel pit mine way east of town. Never, ever had any earthquakes that were ever reported on the news. Dad was a newshound and anything out of the ordinary would have been discussed around the dinner table as was his habit.
Living here in the south, I do not miss the triple digit heat, nor the sub-zero winter temps with all that wind. I do not mind the humidity. But no earthquakes here.


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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2016, 07:57:38 AM »

I grew up I Tulsa many years ago.  Back in the 50's there was a major quake, long before fracking was taking place.   

I looked for info on the depth of the quake.  Haven't seen anything yet.  Just that it was initially thought to be a 5.3 and later deem to be 5.0 quake.  Depth will let us know if it from fracking.

If you think about it, a lot of little quakes are better than one or two big ones, if the plates have to move.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2016, 09:29:09 AM »

The last time this came up someone posted a USGS map that put the center of the quake in a moderately active earthquake zone, in OK.

The quake zone has been there for a bit longer than anyone here has been alive and likely before any of our ancestors were, ever. Because it hasnt had any quakes in your lifetime means nothing.
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