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Just watched a half hour of CNN and Chris Cuomo's biggest concern is whether Trump will appoint a special prosecutor to go after Hilliary. I assume he must think she is as pure as the driven snow? Why do elites think they are above the law? Drain the swamp.
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2016, 06:39:09 AM » |
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Post result many dem/lib/progs media talking heads are saying that Trumps success was due to the votes from uneducated white males.
So much for their understanding of the demographics of America and the ignorance of those they are speaking to.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2016, 06:45:20 AM » |
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I hope that Hillary Clinton and other Dems are not prosecuted. It would set a very bad precedent for America. We have seen other countries in which an election was followed by the persecuting and imprisoning of the losing side. We don't like the atmosphere of those countries.
The best thing that could happen at this point is for Hillary Clinton to simply disappear from public view. The good news is that her age and health will likely prohibit her from seeking the office again.
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When I went to bed last night, I was in a deplorable state. I awakened just as the totals were finally getting solid, fell back asleep, and got up this morning realizing,"HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN". Mr. Trump, beginning today, you have been selected to start your apprenticeship. I pray that at the end of that period we do not have to say "You're fired".
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2016, 06:58:52 AM » |
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I hope that Hillary Clinton and other Dems are not prosecuted. It would set a very bad precedent for America. We have seen other countries in which an election was followed by the persecuting and imprisoning of the losing side. We don't like the atmosphere of those countries.
The best thing that could happen at this point is for Hillary Clinton to simply disappear from public view. The good news is that her age and health will likely prohibit her from seeking the office again.
Really? So we just let her get away with all her criminal acts? This is not the U.S i grew up in. You pay for your crimes. I hope they do send her to prison.
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2016, 07:06:29 AM » |
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I hope that Hillary Clinton and other Dems are not prosecuted. It would set a very bad precedent for America. We have seen other countries in which an election was followed by the persecuting and imprisoning of the losing side. We don't like the atmosphere of those countries.
The best thing that could happen at this point is for Hillary Clinton to simply disappear from public view. The good news is that her age and health will likely prohibit her from seeking the office again.
Really? So we just let her get away with all her criminal acts? This is not the U.S i grew up in. You pay for your crimes. I hope they do send her to prison. I agree! And a message needs to be sent to the rest of them that we won't stand for corruption. We won't stand for lying to congress. We won't stand for the destruction of evidence. We won't stand for the strong arming of leaders of governmental agencies (I know, Bill and Loretta talked about their grandchildren). That we won't tolerate politicians accepting millions from foreign heads of state. I say, go after her and make her an example of what will happen if you sell out our country. Lock her the F U C K up !!!!!!
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2016, 07:17:26 AM » |
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No, it sends the message that we are no better than any of the countries that do that. I find myself on the opposite side of Willow many times. But we are in agreement here. She needs to just fade away never to heard from again.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2016, 07:18:08 AM » |
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I hope that Hillary Clinton and other Dems are not prosecuted. It would set a very bad precedent for America. We have seen other countries in which an election was followed by the persecuting and imprisoning of the losing side. We don't like the atmosphere of those countries.
The best thing that could happen at this point is for Hillary Clinton to simply disappear from public view. The good news is that her age and health will likely prohibit her from seeking the office again.
I can understand where you come from on this but she is a criminal, the foundation is bogus, her swamp needs to be drained and Washington needs to learn a hard lesson. Let the justice system decide her fate and let Washington watch and learn.
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2016, 07:18:30 AM » |
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strong words G-Man.
Although I agree, what kind of perception will it hold on a newly elected Trump who is already viewed as a ruthless businessman who always gets his way or the hwy. (YOUR FIRED mentality!)? More so, will riots and more harm than good come of Hillary being prosecuted?
I say President Trump (strange saying that for one year ago most were just laughing at him going to run) needs to take the HIGH road and try to UNITE this country as ONE again staying calm and collected, not arrogant and boisterous.
If she would just disappear all together from politics, I am o.k. with that.
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2016, 07:18:36 AM » |
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I hope that Hillary Clinton and other Dems are not prosecuted. It would set a very bad precedent for America. We have seen other countries in which an election was followed by the persecuting and imprisoning of the losing side. We don't like the atmosphere of those countries.
The best thing that could happen at this point is for Hillary Clinton to simply disappear from public view. The good news is that her age and health will likely prohibit her from seeking the office again.
I would disagree strongly with the assessment with regard to the current situation. It is one thing to persecute and imprison someone because their political position is in opposition to the winning side. That should never happen and cannot be stood for in our Republic. But that is not what we are looking at in this case. We are looking at laws, important ones, not only being broken but blatantly so. The corruption here is deep, obvious and stunning. And this isn't just about Hillary Clinton. This goes to her staff, the DNC leadership, and even the current administration. And we can hold the GOP to the same standard as well. No problem with that. Prosecute those who broke the law and sought to undermine the integrity of our electoral process.
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2016, 07:20:43 AM » |
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No, it sends the message that we are no better than any of the countries that do that. I find myself on the opposite side of Willow. But we are in agreement here. She needs to just fade away never to heard from again.
So, just drop the investigation into the Foundation? Why? Follow the law. Put intendant prosecutor on it. Do it right, not how Lynch did it. Guilty, or not.
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2016, 07:21:40 AM » |
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There are currently two ongoing investigations into the Clinton Foundation. Also if those disposed emails show up somewhere they can build the current recessed investigation into an indictment. The Clinton's have perpetrated the most heinous acts by using her position as SOS by selling influence and government concessions to world players including 20 percent of our uranium. The American people need to know the exact extent this went to and that it will not be tolerated now or ever again.
With a new DOJ all they have to do is give the resources and backing to the FBI that this joke of an administration failed to do and get out of the way. Let the chips fall where they may fall. O promised transparency back in 08 and that was just another of his lies. Maybe we will finally get it. Chuck
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2016, 07:32:10 AM » |
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Do the crime, do the time!
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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2016, 07:32:53 AM » |
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Strongly agree with the the GMan (as further explained by Mr Moonshot)!!!!!
This would not be petty political grievances, rather it should be used to highlight a new concept of REQUIRED ETHICS IN GOVERNMENT!! (for everyone of every political persuasion)
Upon the filing of a serious charge sheet containing numerous (maybe hundreds of) felonies for clear national security violations and selling Govt influence (and uranium) for huge personal profit, I would be quite happy to see her allowed a lesser plea (so long as it is a felony) and a ceremonial sentence that includes a promise to go away and be heard from never again. Such deals are nearly impossible to refuse, and would save us from another year of televised trial (like the OJ fiasco).
It's the conviction and guilty plea that matters, not the sentence. (though committing her to a jail for 30-90 days would be poetic and a great photo op)
The G, under Mr Trump, has plenty on its plate, and I for one do not want to be reading about the Wench for years to come. The sooner she is flushed down the toilet of history the better.
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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2016, 07:37:42 AM » |
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if revenge as my Sicilian friends say is best served cold I must agree with willow
The coldest deadest heart belongs to the irs
I predict it will be an administrative task of the new director to probe the foundation and then tge chips will fall in vood order
But a special prosecutor to review the aty gen office should occur sooner
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I see Willow's point. However, alleged illegal acts no matter when, who, how, where, should be subjected to investigations and charges brought, judged, and final determination. we are not a banana republic and it's not revenge, it's the rule of law and it should be applied equally.
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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2016, 07:43:44 AM » |
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For starters freeze ALL clinton funds and seize ALL their properties. She NEEDS to be in prison orange. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2016, 07:54:47 AM » |
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HRC and the foundation deserve a special proscecutor, not for political payback but for their criminal activity. But it can't stop there, we need to look at all the Fed agencies that have been weaponized against the citizens. A few that come to mind are that smug POS that runs the IRS, THe director of the National Parks Service that tried to shut down outdoor venues in support of obamas spiteful agenda over funding. He even put out orange cones blocking parking lots at "scenic overlooks". Not only the top of the DOJ, but all the immigration attorneys that had spent a lifetime skirting the law are now on the inside, but still skirting the law. Whether they are political appointees or over zealous civil servants they must be rooted out. Purge the turds!!!
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Agreed Jerry!!~  Not to the exclusion of other necessary business of State, but in addition.
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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2016, 08:07:47 AM » |
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I see Willow's point. However, alleged illegal acts no matter when, who, how, where, should be subjected to investigations and charges brought, judged, and final determination. we are not a banana republic and it's not revenge, it's the rule of law and it should be applied equally.
Exactly Wayne. Justice should be applied equally. If I destroyed evidence I'd be in jail. If I lied to congress, I'd be in jail. If I mishandled gov't communications, I'd be in jail.
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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2016, 08:08:14 AM » |
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I see Willow's point. However, alleged illegal acts no matter when, who, how, where, should be subjected to investigations and charges brought, judged, and final determination. we are not a banana republic and it's not revenge, it's the rule of law and it should be applied equally.
Every administration could be CHARGED with an illegal act. Reagan's Iran/contra affair, Cheney's secret meetings with the Energy companies, etc. It's not a way I want our changing of leadership to happen.
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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2016, 08:09:46 AM » |
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If H is not held accountable for her crimes (they were ) , Trump should pardon those that are serving time for the SAME THING !! Justice for all ...
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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2016, 08:41:37 AM » |
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Lessee, Hilary has compromised our security, she has dodged any responsibility for four dead in Benghazi, (what difference does it make?), the IRS targeted citizens unfairly and took the fifth reserving their rights while trampling on ours), the VA and the Social Security administration bureaucrats can now arbitrarily put citizens on the FBI list, and the Attorney General meets with the husband of a candidate under investigation by the FBI, previous things mentioned about Reagan and Cheney are small potatoes compared to the antics of the present masters of deceit in DC.
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Mr. Trump lives in a glass house.
Sinister and powerful forces seek his demise. They prefer Mike Pence in the Oval Office.
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« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2016, 10:05:21 AM » |
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Speaking of crybabies.................... I heard colleges across the country are running out of safe spaces. Students are seeing the words Trump and President together and it's way too much for them to handle. 
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« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2016, 10:13:30 AM » |
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I hope that Hillary Clinton and other Dems are not prosecuted. It would set a very bad precedent for America. We have seen other countries in which an election was followed by the persecuting and imprisoning of the losing side. We don't like the atmosphere of those countries.
The best thing that could happen at this point is for Hillary Clinton to simply disappear from public view. The good news is that her age and health will likely prohibit her from seeking the office again.
I would disagree strongly with the assessment with regard to the current situation. It is one thing to persecute and imprison someone because their political position is in opposition to the winning side. That should never happen and cannot be stood for in our Republic. But that is not what we are looking at in this case. We are looking at laws, important ones, not only being broken but blatantly so. The corruption here is deep, obvious and stunning. And this isn't just about Hillary Clinton. This goes to her staff, the DNC leadership, and even the current administration. And we can hold the GOP to the same standard as well. No problem with that. Prosecute those who broke the law and sought to undermine the integrity of our electoral process. Well, this is one time I disagree with Willow. As said above PERsecution for political opposition would be wrong. PROcescution for treason, income tax evasion, and lying to congress would be warranted and I hope exercised. I have heard constantly in my discussions with people with opposing political views, "where is the evidence?" A trial would bring it out in the open, if the corruption leads all the way to the white house, prosecute them as well. If convicted, Trump has the power to pardon them although if he does, he should pardon any peons that were convicted of the same thing. Personally, I would not pardon them, but I would reserve judgement on that until I know the facts. I can't make a decision on innuendo and accusations.
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« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2016, 10:23:50 AM » |
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Every administration could be CHARGED with an illegal act. Reagan's Iran/contra affair, Cheney's secret meetings with the Energy companies, etc. It's not a way I want our changing of leadership to happen.
I agree, COULD. Not Charging and either finding guilty or not, has resulted in the "they won't do that to me attitude that exists in DC today. There are a lot of people in prison doing hard time that have done and benefited less from their crimes than the Clintons allegedly have. Bring the truth out.
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« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2016, 10:27:55 AM » |
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I hope that Hillary Clinton and other Dems are not prosecuted. It would set a very bad precedent for America. We have seen other countries in which an election was followed by the persecuting and imprisoning of the losing side. We don't like the atmosphere of those countries.
The best thing that could happen at this point is for Hillary Clinton to simply disappear from public view. The good news is that her age and health will likely prohibit her from seeking the office again.
I can almost understand this side of the argument. "let her disappear from public view" I doubt she will do that. Candidate Trump made a promise as part of his champagne to see to a proper investigation. We want him to keep his promises all of them that he can not just the pretty ones or the convenient ones. Hillary and Bill sold the safety of us all to people that hate us and took the money. Its no small thing. If all they did was steal furniture out of the Whitehouse (oh ya they did that too) and Trump wanted to prosecute them with imprisonment as the goal, then Id agree with Carl. This is a tad different.
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I would like, actually expect, the clintons to be fairly investigated and let the chips fall where they may. I personally find them despicable but think they should have a fair investigation, indictment, prosecution, and then let them share a cell together.
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« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2016, 12:08:28 PM » |
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Every administration could be CHARGED with an illegal act. Reagan's Iran/contra affair, Cheney's secret meetings with the Energy companies, etc. It's not a way I want our changing of leadership to happen.
I agree, COULD. Not Charging and either finding guilty or not, has resulted in the "they won't do that to me attitude that exists in DC today. There are a lot of people in prison doing hard time that have done and benefited less from their crimes than the Clintons allegedly have. Bring the truth out. So we slide even further down into the stinking, rotting cesspool of our corrupt politics. Setting a precedent of imprisoning the losing candidate does nothing to deter corruption. It just makes it worse.
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Every administration could be CHARGED with an illegal act. Reagan's Iran/contra affair, Cheney's secret meetings with the Energy companies, etc. It's not a way I want our changing of leadership to happen.
I agree, COULD. Not Charging and either finding guilty or not, has resulted in the "they won't do that to me attitude that exists in DC today. There are a lot of people in prison doing hard time that have done and benefited less from their crimes than the Clintons allegedly have. Bring the truth out. So we slide even further down into the stinking, rotting cesspool of our corrupt politics. Setting a precedent of imprisoning the losing candidate does nothing to deter corruption. It just makes it worse. If I'm ever in trouble, I want a liberal jury with you as foreman
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Every administration could be CHARGED with an illegal act. Reagan's Iran/contra affair, Cheney's secret meetings with the Energy companies, etc. It's not a way I want our changing of leadership to happen.
I agree, COULD. Not Charging and either finding guilty or not, has resulted in the "they won't do that to me attitude that exists in DC today. There are a lot of people in prison doing hard time that have done and benefited less from their crimes than the Clintons allegedly have. Bring the truth out. So we slide even further down into the stinking, rotting cesspool of our corrupt politics. Setting a precedent of imprisoning the losing candidate does nothing to deter corruption. It just makes it worse. If I'm ever in trouble, I want a liberal jury with you as foreman As I see it it's a completely different set of circumstances for the democratic changing of our leaders than a common crime. I'm not saying its perfect, but when we start imprisoning the losers of the election we are no longer a functioning democracy.
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