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« on: November 12, 2016, 04:52:45 PM »

Here in NY 4 days of huge demonstrations

The headlines on the Daily News IMHO have been inciting the mass hysteria  The other papers and the TV networks are doing nothing to suggest it is out of hand

Can you imagine if that kind of protest occurred when Obama was elected or Bush?  Nope people were upset but not hysterical

WTF is Obama and why isnt he on TV the answer is he hasnt got the balls and Hillary and Trump themselves are laying low as well

Lead from the front people or it gets ugly
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2016, 04:59:27 PM »

"If the people will lead, the leaders will follow"

Our leaders need to stand up or the populous will take over.  Oh well: they can't demonstrate for 4 years.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2016, 05:58:22 PM »

Yes the media has a lot to answer for in these last few months and even years.

The bias against Trump and conservatives in general has been appalling.

Intentionally creating a false and deceitful narrative, twisting words, twisting contexts, and spinning it to condemn half the nation as evil incarnate, racist, bigots, and Nazis. Connecting people with dots that don't exist to the likes of the KKK, and white supremacists.

Giving no value to the actual and legitimate policies and goals that are desired to be achieved.

Nope, we'll just torpedo half the nation into submission by bullying.

President Trump showed that it is possible to stand up and defy the media, defy the culture of hate and elitism and basically work hard and kick ass.

It is defined as Leadership. He has survived the political war, the media minions of the Democrat party, and even attempts by some in the GOP to undermine his efforts.

Unfortunately we know the media will not learn anything from this and should be regarded as the elitist and corrupt liars that they are.

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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2016, 06:03:10 PM »

Don't worry guys... The New York Times says it will "rededicate" itself to reporting the news honestly instead of just being one big opinion piece...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/12/new-york-times-publisher-vows-to-rededicate-itself-to-reporting-honestly.html
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2016, 06:03:43 PM »

Unfortunately we know the media will not learn anything from this and should be regarded as the elitist and corrupt liars that they are.

Indeed they are no longer the protectors of the first amendment; they are the abusers of the first amendment, and an enemy of the people.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2016, 06:32:38 PM »

Trump does not have the instincts of a leader.

To the contrary, first on his agenda is filing lawsuits against those who offended him during the campaign.

Sure signs of leadership??  He's in over his head.
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2016, 06:47:24 PM »

Hey DK, aren't you from the land of the Clinton's? Get over it! They are both unemployed now. But don't worry, all of the stealing they've done over the years will guarantee they live a more than comfortable life. Way to go!
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2016, 07:09:10 PM »

Another thing I find laughable....Hillary blames one person for her defeat: Comey!  Seriously?  The one and only person she should blame is herself, she brought it all on herself by trying to keep her activities away from the Freedom of Information Act requests. It has been quite a few years for me now, but at one time I actually thought she might make a good first lady president. That ship sailed quite some time ago for me, apparently I wasn't alone.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2016, 07:22:05 PM »

WOW the famous and snobby NY Times is confessing they were biased in their reporting? I thank God that Hillary bit the dust because we are seeing the start of a Nation shaking off the dust and dirt from the favoritism and corruption that were so prevalent in this and some other administrations. I believe we will see more of this and more than likely there will be some turmoil. It seems as overnight the changes are happening its almost like that first fall day from the heat of summer and you can feel the change in the air.

I heard an interesting thing if Hillary had won she could not have been prosecuted for the any scandals since the president cannot be prosecuted. Im sure this was in her game plan before she lost.

I posted this before but its priceless and great to watch

Who's laughing now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=147&v=Qzl8xjkgXCo
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2016, 09:46:51 PM »

Haven't really "trusted" ANY media since I got out of the Navy in 68. More so since this last election debacle. If any one here believes the media was Not against Trump and 4 square for hrc-time to take off those rose colored glasses and dry out from the meds. I would have enjoyed being in hrc's inner sanctum when she and they finally figured out they had Lost!  2funny But what I truly enjoyed was the "unbiased" reporting on a few of the major networks and the absolute look of disbelief on the "reporters" faces when they actually grasped that the wicked witch-thinking another word here-had NOT been elected. Going by what I saw NONE of the networks or the "reporters" were in any way shape or form prepared for what Happened. Some one NEEDS to start a news organization that reports TRUTHFULLY and ACCURETLY. And if this is started can they find Honest Unbiased reporters??  Undecided HELLZ BELLZ I hada ask!  Grin RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2016, 12:37:09 AM »

Trump does not have the instincts of a leader.

To the contrary, first on his agenda is filing lawsuits against those who offended him during the campaign.

Sure signs of leadership??  He's in over his head.

Let's see if he does. I bet not.

Leadership? Built a multi billion dollar business. Takes leadership.

Obama proudly declared he "leads from behind"

Most call someone who does that a coward.
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2016, 12:49:25 AM »


Obama proudly declared he "leads from behind"

Most call someone who does that a coward.


Wrong...

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/10/obama-never-said-lead-from-behind/1#.WCgsvCQe0uw

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/29/the-new-yorker-obama-leading-from-behind_n_940482.html
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2016, 03:35:30 AM »



U are correct. But, a leading advisor used it to describe his style of leading. Obama did not correct t him. So, still accurate about his style.
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2016, 05:46:13 AM »



U are correct. But, a leading advisor used it to describe his style of leading. Obama did not correct t him. So, still accurate about his style.


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The same 'anonymous advisor' in the article?
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2016, 06:06:10 AM »

Biden said it.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/biden-acknowledges-obama-leading-from-behind/article/654457

But, I'm sure you will attack the source, deflect, cry, whine, but never admit it was said.

Go protest or something.
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2016, 06:17:19 AM »

Biden said it.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/biden-acknowledges-obama-leading-from-behind/article/654457

But, I'm sure you will attack the source, deflect, cry, whine, but never admit it was said.

Go protest or something.



Yes, it was said, as a response to it being brought up again in an interview.....you apparently have trouble with context. And that's not attacking anything other than your inability to comprehend the written word.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2016, 06:29:05 AM »

Forget about Hillary. Forget about Obama. Both are out of the equation.

The combination of the manner in which Trump conducted his campaign together with losing the popular vote all combined with his general incompetence make him unable to ever lead this country.

He is, and always will be, a spokesman for a vocal minority, most of whom still cling to their hatred of the Clinton's and Obama as the basis of their love and admiration of Trump.

Reminder: Obama and Clinton are gone. Trump is all that remains. He rises or falls based solely on his own merits or lack thereof.

The fundamental problem is that the man has no firm convictions;  moral, economic, foreign policy or anything beyond the narcissistic needs of his ego.

I may end up loving the guy. He is already acting like a Liberal on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

This week, keep Obamacare. Next week, I'm looking forward to what's next.

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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2016, 06:45:46 AM »

This is the first election I've voted in since I came home from Nam.If you can't figure out why you need to move to Canada with the other wierdos that said they where if Trump won.
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2016, 06:49:32 AM »

Forget about Hillary. Forget about Obama. Both are out of the equation.

The combination of the manner in which Trump conducted his campaign together with losing the popular vote all combined with his general incompetence make him unable to ever lead this country.

He is, and always will be, a spokesman for a vocal minority, most of whom still cling to their hatred of the Clinton's and Obama as the basis of their love and admiration of Trump.

Reminder: Obama and Clinton are gone. Trump is all that remains. He rises or falls based solely on his own merits or lack thereof.

The fundamental problem is that the man has no firm convictions;  moral, economic, foreign policy or anything beyond the narcissistic needs of his ego.

I may end up loving the guy. He is already acting like a Liberal on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

This week, keep Obamacare. Next week, I'm looking forward to what's next.



Let's look at this.  Taking Trump out of the equation.

The GOP picked up 3 more governor seats (34 states).  
The GOP still retains power in Senate and House.
That isn't hatred or a "vocal minority".  That is a mandate that says, "Your ideas aren't worth squat.  Your leadership isn't worth squat.  And we are done with your crap."
Pretty much exactly how Obama won; a seriously negative mood about Bush.
Trump won the presidency because HRC was a huge liability, untrustworthy, despicable to many people, and was hated more than Trump.

Also, it's very likely that the Supreme Court will go conservative.  Heller will stand (which is a huge issue for me).
The DNC is on the ropes for a decade, at least.  And I thank God for that.



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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2016, 08:16:10 AM »

Last I read, Trump won the popular vote also. I will not trust that until I verify it myself, because there are NO media outlets whom I trust completely.
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2016, 09:47:26 AM »

Uh...DK, he never said he'd keep obamacare. He did indicate he would like to keep 2-3 parts of it due to the importance of that section. I see nothing wrong with that, at least it shows he's willing to listen to the advice of others....something sadly lacking in recent years by the current lamebrain....I mean lameduck.
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2016, 10:19:01 AM »

Uh...DK, he never said he'd keep obamacare. He did indicate he would like to keep 2-3 parts of it due to the importance of that section. I see nothing wrong with that, at least it shows he's willing to listen to the advice of others....something sadly lacking in recent years by the current lamebrain....I mean lameduck.

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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2016, 02:08:58 PM »

Forget about Hillary. Forget about Obama. Both are out of the equation.

The combination of the manner in which Trump conducted his campaign together with losing the popular vote all combined with his general incompetence make him unable to ever lead this country.

He is, and always will be, a spokesman for a vocal minority, most of whom still cling to their hatred of the Clinton's and Obama as the basis of their love and admiration of Trump.

Reminder: Obama and Clinton are gone. Trump is all that remains. He rises or falls based solely on his own merits or lack thereof.

The fundamental problem is that the man has no firm convictions;  moral, economic, foreign policy or anything beyond the narcissistic needs of his ego.

I may end up loving the guy. He is already acting like a Liberal on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

This week, keep Obamacare. Next week, I'm looking forward to what's next.



Both could be considered "out of the equation" but you'd be an idiot to make that assumption. Their policies and politics continue.

Trump conducted his campaign the only way he could in the face of a withering assault by not only the Clinton campaign but the DNC and their Media minions taking an occasional kernel of truth and exaggerating it and warping its context and content by untold factors of magnitude.
The Press has a lot to answer for. I know they have freedom but that comes with responsibility. They pulled out all the stops, went so far beyond the pale to put Trump down and only served to betray the very people they are supposed to serve, pitting this Country's people against one another and inciting violence and spitting vitriol.

His "incompetence" is an illusion brought to you by the establishment media. Unless you actually know him personally, you get your perception of him from the Media. Remember, the media had a lot of help from the Democrats and a sector of the GOP in shaping the narrative here. He isn't perfect. Not by a long shot. No one is. Neither is he the super-villain they continue to make him out to be.  But he has considerable Executive experience and while many will point out his failures, I looked to his successes.
For me, I had him pegged as the best choice from the start. Even through the primaries.

I don't hate Obama. I am opposed to a majority of his political views and believe his leadership abilities have fallen very short of what this country deserves. Obviously, these views are debatable.
As to the Clintons, hate is not the word I would use. I would use "despise" as I despise all criminals.
By virtually any logical standard, Mrs. Clinton's conduct in the past few years, if not, decades is full of criminal like scandals. I simply believe they are in fact crimes. The evidence? I'm not stupid. It is self evident.

I wholeheartedly agree that He rises or falls based solely on his own merits or lack thereof and time will tell that story.

As far as Trump not having any convictions, we shall see. He is and has been in the glaring light of the public eye. We have an obligation to view his performance in that light but justly and fairly as well.

I am pretty certain that Hillary's convictions will be multiple.
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2016, 02:26:34 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2016, 05:34:40 AM »

The vocal minority is on the left, and boy are they vocal.  We now own both house of legislature and the Pres.  31 governors just became 34 and the separate state legislative houses are overwhelmingly Republican.  The Supreme Court can now and maybe solidly in time become Constitutionalists  as it was always intended.

The Old York Times just penned how they were in the tank for HRC and they goofed and would now become real journalist.  Trump tweeted this was welcome news but he doubted it.  The ball is in there court.
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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2016, 06:02:19 AM »

Trump does not have the instincts of a leader.

To the contrary, first on his agenda is filing lawsuits against those who offended him during the campaign.

Sure signs of leadership??  He's in over his head.

A person who owns 500 businesses and is theeeee pinnacle of the real estate business in the biggest city in the world and owns businesses and real estate holdings all around the world (dealing with the gov'ts of all these countries in order to do business there) has NO LEADERSHIP INSTINCTS.  Sounds silly just typing that.

Isn't it amazing how all those he threatened with lawsuits immediately shut up, turned tail, never to be heard from again? 

"He's in over his head" has been stated by EVERY "reporter" in the predominantly left media for a year and half and he proved EVERY one of them wrong each step of the way. 

Great post!
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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2016, 07:03:16 AM »

Forget about Hillary. Forget about Obama. Both are out of the equation.

The combination of the manner in which Trump conducted his campaign together with losing the popular vote all combined with his general incompetence make him unable to ever lead this country.

He is, and always will be, a spokesman for a vocal minority, most of whom still cling to their hatred of the Clinton's and Obama as the basis of their love and admiration of Trump.

Reminder: Obama and Clinton are gone. Trump is all that remains. He rises or falls based solely on his own merits or lack thereof.

The fundamental problem is that the man has no firm convictions;  moral, economic, foreign policy or anything beyond the narcissistic needs of his ego.

I may end up loving the guy. He is already acting like a Liberal on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

This week, keep Obamacare. Next week, I'm looking forward to what's next.



I don't think you could cram more BS in a post than that.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2016, 08:55:13 AM »

YUP-guessin a lot of folks bread hit da floor butter side down and the floor ain't been swept in awhile!  2funny Far as the lame stream media goes I trust them bout a far as I trust the clintons-and all y'all here KNOW how I feel about the clintons.  Evil Besides the BBC is there a news outlet that DIDN'T drop the ball? RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2016, 09:19:25 AM »

Forget about Hillary. Forget about Obama. Both are out of the equation.

The combination of the manner in which Trump conducted his campaign together with losing the popular vote all combined with his general incompetence make him unable to ever lead this country.

He is, and always will be, a spokesman for a vocal minority, most of whom still cling to their hatred of the Clinton's and Obama as the basis of their love and admiration of Trump.

Reminder: Obama and Clinton are gone. Trump is all that remains. He rises or falls based solely on his own merits or lack thereof.

The fundamental problem is that the man has no firm convictions;  moral, economic, foreign policy or anything beyond the narcissistic needs of his ego.

I may end up loving the guy. He is already acting like a Liberal on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

This week, keep Obamacare. Next week, I'm looking forward to what's next.



I don't think you could cram more BS in a post than that.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2016, 01:05:28 PM »

The Greeks can spot a great guy a mile away Evil

https://www.rt.com/news/367049-athens-police-obama-protest/
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« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2016, 01:22:31 PM »

The Greeks can spot a great guy a mile away Evil

https://www.rt.com/news/367049-athens-police-obama-protest/
          Protesting against the Right person in this case BUT Greece ain't AMERICA but a win is a win is a win. safe place?? I don't need no steenking safe place!  2funny RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2016, 01:44:51 PM »

Herman Cain was hit with similar  accusations,  he bowed out Trump didn't.  Cain did file suite though and won suite against accuser. Cudos for Cain. Smiley
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