Who remembers pugil stick training?

[f6john]

    I was 18 years old and it was really the first time I considered the idea that I could be in a very short time facing a fatal encounter of the it's either me or you kind.

[TJ]

Lost a bunch of teeth , but I won against  4 others.....   

[hubcapsc]

I had to look it up. I'm remembering a different stick...

When I was 13 or so, I used to hang out at the corner gas station
with a Bob Jones student (he had a yamaha 250 enduro!  ) who
had been in the service, Viet Nam I think. He was a MP, and
sometimes had to "escort" folks outside. He described grabbing
them by the collar with one hand and jambing a "stick" through
their legs with the other hand, tipping them slightly forward
so that he could easily guide the unwilling person in the
desired direction...

So there's my 45 year old memory, is there a military name for
that stick? Anyone heard of that tactic?

-Mike

[The emperor has no clothes]

I had to look it up. I'm remembering a different stick...

When I was 13 or so, I used to hang out at the corner gas station
with a Bob Jones student (he had a yamaha 250 enduro!  ) who
had been in the service, Viet Nam I think. He was a MP, and
sometimes had to "escort" folks outside. He described grabbing
them by the collar with one hand and jambing a "stick" through
their legs with the other hand, tipping them slightly forward
so that he could easily guide the unwilling person in the
desired direction...

So there's my 45 year old memory, is there a military name for
that stick? Anyone heard of that tactic?

-Mike

baton ?

[f6john]

Lost a bunch of teeth , but I won against  4 others.....   

   A lot of trainees thought it was meant to beat each other up. I got the message from my Drill Sgt immediately, kill or be killed. My first encounter, I rushed the guy head on and hit him straight in the chest. Drill Sgt blew the whistle, match over. In a real combat situation I may or may not have been so bold.

[Willow]

First experience - I was determined to be aggressive.  I rushed toward the member of the other platoon with the intent of driving the end of the stick through him.  As I approached at speed he somehow chose to ignore both ends of the stick and simply held it up and forward parallel to the ground.  I ran myself into the middle of the stick as it connected firmly with my Adam's apple.  I was on the ground immediately.

I had trouble swallowing during chow time for the next week. 

[da prez]

  Been there , did that. I was experienced and did not let the D I know.  I took out the first two and then the D I wanted a go. I lost to him by choice. I do not know if I could have beaten him , but I did not want the possible wrong out-come.
  Later in life I studied Martial arts and became an Instructor. One of my favorites was the long staff used in close quarters.

                                            da prez 

[Fazer]

What I remember most, is after about 2 minutes, so worn out I didn't care who won.

We used to use similar poles with padding on one end only as jousting sticks in canoes--that was a blast.

[Skinhead]

I had to look it up. I'm remembering a different stick...

When I was 13 or so, I used to hang out at the corner gas station
with a Bob Jones student (he had a yamaha 250 enduro!  ) who
had been in the service, Viet Nam I think. He was a MP, and
sometimes had to "escort" folks outside. He described grabbing
them by the collar with one hand and jambing a "stick" through
their legs with the other hand, tipping them slightly forward
so that he could easily guide the unwilling person in the
desired direction...

So there's my 45 year old memory, is there a military name for
that stick? Anyone heard of that tactic?

-Mike

I was an MP, and that was a comealong technique.  The stick was the night stick, or baton that was used as less than lethal force to persuade a subject.  The baton was about 18 inches long.  The riot baton was used for crowd control, that was about 3 feet long and a little larger in diameter.

[hubcapsc]

Thanks Sinkhead... I think  comealong is the word
I remember Tom using...

"We used a comealong on them..."
"What's that?"

-Mike

[GiG]

Thanks Sinkhead... I think  comealong is the word
I remember Tom using...

"We used a comealong on them..."
"What's that?"

-Mike

In Sinkhead's hands, it was  otherwise known as the famous "Ugly Stick" 

[Varmintmist]

Yep. The DI put me in as the one, in the one on two. I had watched other bouts and the one always seemed to step back and the two would flank him and them pound on him. I remember both those guys smiling before the whistle blew. When it did, I stepped in and horizontal butt stroked the guy on the left in the helmet before the ball quit rolling in the whistle. The whistle blew again and the guy on the right who was now alone, wasnt smiling anymore.

Lost once. To a short black guy. He faded back enough that I missed on a no contact, and butt stroked me in the helmet. I saw it coming as soon as I screwed up. I can still see it today.

During bayonet training where you had to parry the donkyrichard and hit the plywood in the tire and move on, I drove the rifle through the plywood about 5 in into the handgaurd.  I just stood there for a second with the attack plan completely foiled, then looked up and saw two of my DI's laughing. I looked at them, shrugged my shoulders, and commenced tearing the rifle back out.

[da prez]

  Helmets , you got helmets. What were those for.

                                 da prez

[Jess Tolbirt]

i had what was called a Japanese karate stick, about 1 1/4 inches dia and about 12 inches long with a few well place ridges in it,,you can be messed up real bad and real quick with one of those
 

[czuch]

You have 2.3 seconds or you are in danger of losing.
If you lose you will get smurfed.

[0leman]

when I was younger and was heavy into Martial Arts, we played with those sticks.  We call the Escrima Sticks (Karate fighting sticks).  Made them out of hickory.   We worked with human shaped dummies most of the time.  striking  places line top of head, elbows, knees.  We did equip ourselves with pad so we could actually fight with them.  One learned to block a lot better.   Lots of bruises when done.

[da prez]

  Rams , I went in in 1966.

  Oleman , escrima was actually Philippine. I studied with some of the best. With old age and artheritis , 9mm is the way to go.
 
                               da prez
 

[0leman]

  Rams , I went in in 1966.

  Oleman , escrima was actually Philippine. I studied with some of the best. With old age and artheritis , 9mm is the way to go.
 
                               da prez
 

I agree with you, though I like a 455 in a revolver.  250 grain moving at 700 fps will stop most. 

I did study lots of styles when younger, the American Free style I studied the most, took a lot of moves/techniques from a lot of different martial arts.