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« on: December 11, 2016, 05:58:17 PM »

http://knightstemplarinternational.com/2016/12/pizzagate-downfall-hidden-plain-sight/


The PizzaGate pedophile scandal as the final stage of the political decay of the West

On November 3rd, a few days before the US elections, Julian Assange’s Wikileaks released PHASE 3 of their election “coverage”, a package of about 357 FBI files, added to what was already known as the “Podesta files” containing different e-mail correspondences of Bill and Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff John Podesta, who was also a counselor to Barack Obama until February 2015.

Practically at the same time that the files were released, an anonymous online identity known as “4chan” first published via internet some explosive findings. In his e-mails, within some sentences that make no real sense, Podesta used code words, previously fixed by FBI as related to pedophilia. The words are the following: pizza = girl, hotdog = boy, cheese = little girl, pasta = little boy, sauce = orgy, etc. Hidden in plain sight.

From that moment on, an unseen viral online exposure started not only about Podesta’s dark connections, but also about the Clintons’ involvement. Information on this subject comes from the most different sources online with many bizarre, terrible details. There is a strong aspect of “citizen journalism” and internet detective work in all of this, showing the frightening deepness of this morbid scandal. It is clear that some FBI people gave these files to Assange (soon after, one of the “suspected” was found dead), especially after the statement of a highly positioned FBI official that they have proof of both Clintons being involved. Based on this, most of the research work is being done by ordinary people who have provided us with insights into what was obviously the greatest American public secret. Meanwhile, a mass campaign against so-called “fake news” has been initiated through the controlled mainstream media. Interesting timing, to say the least.

From what is known so far from the “fake news” sources, there are strong indications that highly positioned US officials, high-up politicians, former and present, elite circles, as well as “ordinary” citizens are involved in obviously the biggest scandal in history. Numerous sources indicate that child pornography, child abduction, sex slave traffic, pedo-sadism, ritual sacrificing, dark occultism (staring the infamous “artist” Marina Abramovic as a master chief of her “spirit cooking” dinners), and even cannibalism are most probably involved. Podesta’s messages are only the tip of the iceberg. One should only see his “art” collection. One should only see how many people are connected in different ways in a disastrous network that constantly leads to high political and public circles. The entertainment industry is very much involved. Some actors, inspired by the scandal, have already spoken openly about Hollywood’s tradition of pedophilia related to child actors.
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2016, 06:40:57 PM »

Let's hope that "draining the swamp" includes this.
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2016, 07:06:05 AM »

Please don't contribute to this insanity.  These are dangerous, made up stories that
end up affecting innocent people. Only extremely gullible, uneducated people fall
for this nonsense. Don't embarrass yourself.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2016, 07:15:24 AM »

Please don't contribute to this insanity.  These are dangerous, made up stories that
end up affecting innocent people. Only extremely gullible, uneducated people fall
for this nonsense. Don't embarrass yourself.
I'm afraid that train has left the station. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2016, 08:30:26 AM »

This is what is known as spreading gossip.

The Bible on Gossip
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2016, 10:08:27 AM »

Please don't contribute to this insanity.  These are dangerous, made up stories that
end up affecting innocent people. Only extremely gullible, uneducated people fall
for this nonsense. Don't embarrass yourself.

blind leading the blind
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2016, 12:14:46 PM »

This is what is known as spreading gossip.

The Bible on Gossip
Those are all good. There are a couple i especially liked.

"A dishonest man spreads strife, and a whisperer separates close friends."

"If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. "

Thanks for posting that.  cooldude I know I could use some help in this area.
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2016, 06:49:57 PM »

I sincerely hope none of its true. There have sadly been people received death threats over this and businesses almost ruined. Those who print this stuff if not true should be held accountable. Not much accountability in the media these days.
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2016, 07:04:12 PM »

I sincerely hope none of its true. There have sadly been people received death threats over this and businesses almost ruined. Those who print this stuff if not true should be held accountable. Not much accountability in the media these days.
That is part of the problem. It is not disseminated so much by the mainstream media but by outlets like Alex Jones, Breitbart, Facebook. Even here it seeps thru. Of course Clinton wasn't running a child porn ring out of a pizza joint. But there are many willing to believe such stuff. Truth matters not to them.
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2016, 07:16:51 PM »

I'm not willing to say that the pizzagate theory MUST be true.  That said, there is clearly a bunch of coded messages in their correspondence.  I'm sure it's nothing sinister, though.
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2016, 07:27:10 PM »

I'm not willing to say that the pizzagate theory MUST be true.  That said, there is clearly a bunch of coded messages in their correspondence.  I'm sure it's nothing sinister, though.
I am willing to say it's total BS.
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2016, 08:02:20 PM »

http://www.inquisitr.com/3676883/latest-wikileaks-clinton-emails-include-child-trafficking-anthony-weiner-info-will-trump-win-as-a-result/

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=54773

In January 2010, an earthquake in Haiti left hundreds of thousands of people dead, injured, and displaced, and over a million homeless.
Three weeks after the earthquake, Haitian authorities arrested a group of Idaho missionaries for attempting to cross the border into the Dominican Republic with 33 children, without papers or proper authorization.   The missionaries claimed they had the good intentions to set up an orphanage, 3 but investigations showed that none of the children were orphans and that the missionaries may have been attempting to smuggle the children out of Haiti to be adopted internationally.   Despite evidence of association with child traffickers,  the Haitian justice system—prodded in part by President Clinton’s diplomatic efforts on behalf of the missionaries  —determined that none of the missionaries were guilty of illegal activities, except the leader Laura Silsby, who faced a lesser charge of organizing illegal travel.

http://www.wnd.com/1999/10/3848/

Despite White House denials, the Clinton administration has had major contacts with Asian organized crime syndicates such as the Triads, and has befriended kingpins of international prostitution operations.

Unraveling the tangled web involving Bill Clinton, Beijing and Asian organized crime starts with the president’s close, and self-described “old,” friendship with Arkansas restaurant owner Charlie Yah Lin Trie. Trie, who managed to donate hundreds of thousands of dollars to Bill Clinton and the Democratic party, is alleged to be a member of the “4 Seas” Triad, an organization of underworld lords based in Hong Kong.

Indeed, much of the money donated by Trie came directly following visits to the White House by others linked to the Triads, including Macau millionaire Ng Lapseng, whose main business is his Fortuna hotel and hostess service of brothels.

Clinton’s ties to international trafficking in women have even caused some traditional supporters to oppose the administration. “The Clinton administration and the World Bank helped Thailand organize and nationalize their prostitution business,” stated National Organization for Women Dulles (Virginia) Chapter President Marie Jose Ragab. “It is state-sponsored trafficking in women, complete with passports, transportation and infrastructure.”
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/1999/10/3848/#zwHRzDGa6wYBrJT3.99
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2016, 09:46:00 PM »

I rest my case.

Anyone buying into this conspiracy crap, please leave your hat sizes, for Christmas gifts I'm making.

Looks like I will need a lot of tin foil.  uglystupid2
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2016, 01:00:46 AM »

I rest my case.

Anyone buying into this conspiracy crap, please leave your hat sizes, for Christmas gifts I'm making.

Looks like I will need a lot of tin foil.  uglystupid2



Lots of styles to choose from!
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2016, 01:16:53 AM »

I rest my case.

Anyone buying into this conspiracy crap, please leave your hat sizes, for Christmas gifts I'm making.

Looks like I will need a lot of tin foil.  uglystupid2



Lots of styles to choose from!

Looks like my old exhaust pipes  Smiley

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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2016, 04:16:51 PM »

I'm not willing to say that the pizzagate theory MUST be true.  That said, there is clearly a bunch of coded messages in their correspondence.  I'm sure it's nothing sinister, though.
I am willing to say it's total BS.

As would I if not for the well established reputations of Bill Clinton, Jeff Epstein and Anthony Wiener. Self inflicted wounds.
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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2016, 05:02:49 AM »

I sincerely hope none of its true. There have sadly been people received death threats over this and businesses almost ruined. Those who print this stuff if not true should be held accountable. Not much accountability in the media these days.
That is part of the problem. It is not disseminated so much by the mainstream media but by outlets like Alex Jones, Breitbart, Facebook. Even here it seeps thru. Of course Clinton wasn't running a child porn ring out of a pizza joint. But there are many willing to believe such stuff. Truth matters not to them.

Do a "site:breitbart.com pizza" or "site:breitbart.com comet" google search to see how
wrong you are about breitbart. See the wiki page on pizzagate to see that reddit is
a big part of the conspiracy...

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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2016, 05:59:34 AM »

I sincerely hope none of its true. There have sadly been people received death threats over this and businesses almost ruined. Those who print this stuff if not true should be held accountable. Not much accountability in the media these days.
That is part of the problem. It is not disseminated so much by the mainstream media but by outlets like Alex Jones, Breitbart, Facebook. Even here it seeps thru. Of course Clinton wasn't running a child porn ring out of a pizza joint. But there are many willing to believe such stuff. Truth matters not to them.

Do a "site:breitbart.com pizza" or "site:breitbart.com comet" google search to see how
wrong you are about breitbart. See the wiki page on pizzagate to see that reddit is
a big part of the conspiracy...

-Mike
I was referring to "fake news" and "conspiracy theories" in general. I will take your word on their take on the "pizza gate". I quit reading Breitbart a while back. I felt I needed a shower after every reading.
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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2016, 06:21:11 AM »

I know the feeling,, only its CNN for me
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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2016, 06:24:17 AM »

I sincerely hope none of its true. There have sadly been people received death threats over this and businesses almost ruined. Those who print this stuff if not true should be held accountable. Not much accountability in the media these days.
That is part of the problem. It is not disseminated so much by the mainstream media but by outlets like Alex Jones, Breitbart, Facebook. Even here it seeps thru. Of course Clinton wasn't running a child porn ring out of a pizza joint. But there are many willing to believe such stuff. Truth matters not to them.

Do a "site:breitbart.com pizza" or "site:breitbart.com comet" google search to see how
wrong you are about breitbart. See the wiki page on pizzagate to see that reddit is
a big part of the conspiracy...

-Mike
I was referring to "fake news" and "conspiracy theories" in general. I will take your word on their take on the "pizza gate". I quit reading Breitbart a while back. I felt I needed a shower after every reading.

I never read them, except as prompted by threads here. Fringe "news" in general seems worthless, like
supermarket checkout aisle newspapers. Huffington Post requires not only a shower, but the
burning of my clothes for lice...

If an interesting headline pops up when I hit news.google.com, I look for the story on
Reuters or BBC.

Trump (who would be rude to me if he ever met me, and disrespectful of things I care about)
said he doesn't need to hear the same security briefing over and over again.

Donald Trump Says He Doesn't Need Intelligence Briefings. - NPR

Trump gets one presidential intelligence briefing a week - Reuters

-Mike
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« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2016, 06:34:44 AM »

As far as the biases and reliability of news sources, this is a pretty decent reference. I disagree with a few, and I think the whole thing should be shifted a sector or two to the right (From my point of view Fox is leftist) but...

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« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2016, 06:45:19 AM »

I sincerely hope none of its true. There have sadly been people received death threats over this and businesses almost ruined. Those who print this stuff if not true should be held accountable. Not much accountability in the media these days.
That is part of the problem. It is not disseminated so much by the mainstream media but by outlets like Alex Jones, Breitbart, Facebook. Even here it seeps thru. Of course Clinton wasn't running a child porn ring out of a pizza joint. But there are many willing to believe such stuff. Truth matters not to them.



When the politicians routinely lie to the American people, they get what they deserve.   How do we know when they are lying and when telling the truth?   By the absurdity of their statement?  It was caused by a video is not very absurd is it?   Our how about you can keep your doctor.

They all disgust me.
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« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2016, 06:48:15 AM »

I sincerely hope none of its true. There have sadly been people received death threats over this and businesses almost ruined. Those who print this stuff if not true should be held accountable. Not much accountability in the media these days.
That is part of the problem. It is not disseminated so much by the mainstream media but by outlets like Alex Jones, Breitbart, Facebook. Even here it seeps thru. Of course Clinton wasn't running a child porn ring out of a pizza joint. But there are many willing to believe such stuff. Truth matters not to them.



When the politicians routinely lie to the American people, they get what they deserve.   How do we know when they are lying and when telling the truth?   By the absurdity of their statement?  It was caused by a video is not very absurd is it?   Our how about you can keep your doctor.

They all disgust me.

Ditto cooldude  We need accountability for everyone.
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« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2016, 06:50:19 AM »

I sincerely hope none of its true. There have sadly been people received death threats over this and businesses almost ruined. Those who print this stuff if not true should be held accountable. Not much accountability in the media these days.
That is part of the problem. It is not disseminated so much by the mainstream media but by outlets like Alex Jones, Breitbart, Facebook. Even here it seeps thru. Of course Clinton wasn't running a child porn ring out of a pizza joint. But there are many willing to believe such stuff. Truth matters not to them.



When the politicians routinely lie to the American people, they get what they deserve.   How do we know when they are lying and when telling the truth?   By the absurdity of their statement?  It was caused by a video is not very absurd is it?   Our how about you can keep your doctor.

They all disgust me.
So, we should buy into fabricated stories about them ? Doesn't make much sense to me.
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« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2016, 07:55:05 AM »

I am not saying you should buy into anything. The media spins everything so far out of control who do we trust.
Even Reuters spins it
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« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2016, 09:33:32 AM »

BTW, if you're getting me a hat, I'd like a fedora, please.
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« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2016, 09:41:01 AM »

BTW, if you're getting me a hat, I'd like a fedora, please.

I want a sombrero  cooldude
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« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2016, 10:35:16 AM »

Where there's smoke there's fire.

The question to be answered is, How MUCH fire?

The answer is yet to be seen.



Liberal minded thinkers are quick to dismiss ANYTHING that they don't agree with.

And usually INSULT the intelligence of those with the opposing view.

This is a common and sad tactic of those who lean to the left.

I'm sure that if these "news" articles were claiming that Trump was a pedophile instead of Clinton that the lamestream media and "liberal" thinkers would be touting it as the Gospel Truth.
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« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2016, 11:16:22 AM »

Where there's smoke there's fire.

The question to be answered is, How MUCH fire?

The answer is yet to be seen.



Liberal minded thinkers are quick to dismiss ANYTHING that they don't agree with.

And usually INSULT the intelligence of those with the opposing view.

This is a common and sad tactic of those who lean to the left.

I'm sure that if these "news" articles were claiming that Trump was a pedophile instead of Clinton that the lamestream media and "liberal" thinkers would be touting it as the Gospel Truth.
I doubt it. There is plenty to find fault with most politicians, CEO's, etc. Just making up crap about any of them when there not a shred of truth to it, just seems plain dumb to me.
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« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2016, 11:46:49 AM »

Where there's smoke there's fire.

The question to be answered is, How MUCH fire?

The answer is yet to be seen.





Are you saying that you actually think there's a shred of truth to her being connected to a pedophile ring?

Did I read that previous 'story' right?
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« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2016, 12:45:10 PM »

Where there's smoke there's fire.

The question to be answered is, How MUCH fire?

The answer is yet to be seen.





Are you saying that you actually think there's a shred of truth to her being connected to a pedophile ring?

Did I read that previous 'story' right?


Baldo,, don't be so quick to criticize and think you are always right! You were the one who assured everyone she would win. I would hate to see you eat crow twice. It does not taste good
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« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2016, 12:51:53 PM »

Is asking a question seen as criticism? And believe me, I know I'm not always right....just most of the time.

But to equate the the outcome of a Presidential election to some ridiculous story such as this, is a bit of a stretch.

And let's revisit the eating crow topic in a year or two....
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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2016, 12:56:21 PM »

Crow, humble pie......

I know alphabet soup so words could be eaten

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« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2016, 12:57:45 PM »


And believe me, I know I'm not always right....just most of the time.

I thought I was wrong once, but it turns out I wasn't...

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« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2016, 01:00:58 PM »


And believe me, I know I'm not always right....just most of the time.

I thought I was wrong once, but it turns out I wasn't...

-Mike


lol...my wife hears that from me on occasion...
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« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2016, 01:29:57 PM »

Where there's smoke there's fire.

The question to be answered is, How MUCH fire?

The answer is yet to be seen.





Are you saying that you actually think there's a shred of truth to her being connected to a pedophile ring?

Did I read that previous 'story' right?



I doubt that Hillary was/is a participant.

Bill however is a likely suspect.

Hillary's involvement is most likely limited to having knowledge of it and not doing anything about it.


Usually,  even wild rumors have some slight truth to them.

This is one of those that while not completely true, probably does have a slither of truth in it somewhere.
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« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2016, 01:35:17 PM »

Where there's smoke there's fire.

The question to be answered is, How MUCH fire?

The answer is yet to be seen.





Are you saying that you actually think there's a shred of truth to her being connected to a pedophile ring?

Did I read that previous 'story' right?



I doubt that Hillary was/is a participant.

Bill however is a likely suspect.

Hillary's involvement is most likely limited to having knowledge of it and not doing anything about it.


Usually,  even wild rumors have some slight truth to them.

This is one of those that while not completely true, probably does have a slither of truth in it somewhere.

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« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2016, 01:38:31 PM »

Are you saying that you actually think there's a shred of truth to her being connected to a pedophile ring?

Just curious... NOT arguing the specifics of THIS case, but from what you know of her, do you think, morally and ethically, she'd have any problem at ALL running a global pedophile ring if she thought it might get her ahead in the world?
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« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2016, 01:42:53 PM »

Are you saying that you actually think there's a shred of truth to her being connected to a pedophile ring?

Just curious... NOT arguing the specifics of THIS case, but from what you know of her, do you think, morally and ethically, she'd have any problem at ALL running a global pedophile ring if she thought it might get her ahead in the world?


Yes, I think she would have a problem with it. You're a smart guy. Do YOU think she'd do it?
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« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2016, 01:53:35 PM »

Are you saying that you actually think there's a shred of truth to her being connected to a pedophile ring?

Just curious... NOT arguing the specifics of THIS case, but from what you know of her, do you think, morally and ethically, she'd have any problem at ALL running a global pedophile ring if she thought it might get her ahead in the world?


Yes, I think she would have a problem with it. You're a smart guy. Do YOU think she'd do it?

I think if she thought it would increase her chances to gain power or wealth, and that she was assured she could get away with it she would personally break the necks of a thousand babies while they slept without a moment's hesitation or regret.
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