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Wonder if they've checked Cook County, Illinois yet(Chicago). That's been an ongoing problem for decades in some precincts there.
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Wonder if they've checked Cook County, Illinois yet(Chicago). That's been an ongoing problem for decades in some precincts there.
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John, I'm "almost" sure you're not taking into account the cultural differences that may be different in the voting population and the procedures utilized to cast and count votes. My own Uncle Frank was a dedicated Conservative his entire life and it wasn't until he moved to Chicago about ten years ago that his voting habits changed. Why, I clearly remember him telling me there was no way he could vote for a Liberal. He passed away shortly after that. Since then, he's voted Liberal every election. I think the culture got to him. I doubt your uncle was alone. I read the articles in the Detroit Free Press and News last week about this in Detroit. Had a recount been allowed they would have not been able to allow a huge percentage of votes in Wayne County ( the real Detroit for those in Rio Linda ) per state law as a large percentage of the stored ballot boxes had been breached that is their security seals were broke. I suspect the story may be similar in a lot of other large cities such as Philly, Cleveland. Both those cities in 2012 had districts where every vote was cast for Obama and that was over 35,000 and maybe over 50,000 votes in those districts. Another had more votes cast than registered voters. That is when the Republicans put up a huge national protest and burned cities and beat up Democrats and cried uncontrollably, and got on planes to leave for Canada and said the election should be overturned, and that Russia was involved, and it went on and on. A couple of weeks ago Bill O'Reilly sent some of his staff to LA to find out how easy it was to get fake ID and then just go ahead and vote. He did not alledge any had, but they found out it was a very easy procedure to accomplish and no one was watching. |
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Headline from your link. Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts From the link you so willingly offered up " The problems were the worst in Detroit, where discrepancies meant officials couldn’t recount votes in 392 precincts, or nearly 60 percent. And two-thirds of those precincts had too many votes." Waiting for the deflection/distraction in 3 2 1 .......................................... |
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Why let a good misleading headline go to waste..... I would respect your positions alot more if you addressed the facts of the article and the subject instead of these one liners. If you dispute the facts, say so and give your reasons. Otherwise you are no different than the talking heads like Joy Behar. John, I quoted MH's statement because it's relevant. If people read the whole article, it's there in black and white. I purposely don't reiterate what's already there so hopefully, people will read it and not just go by the headline. But seriously, thanks for the faith... Bob |
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It had nothing to do with a recount from the Green Party. It was apparently from voters putting in their ballots in the machine and having jams because of multiple pages. Evidently it would count them multiple times. But it would probably never have been discovered if not for the green party recount? right? |
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It had nothing to do with a recount from the Green Party. It was apparently from voters putting in their ballots in the machine and having jams because of multiple pages. Evidently it would count them multiple times. But it would probably never have been discovered if not for the green party recount? right? That part wasn't clear in the article. It seemed the State officials reported an audit of it. But I couldn't figure where it originated. The point I was trying to make was the Fox article implied there was widespread voter fraud. Which a lot here bought into. It appears this is not the case. |
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It had nothing to do with a recount from the Green Party. It was apparently from voters putting in their ballots in the machine and having jams because of multiple pages. Evidently it would count them multiple times. And this is the first election that these jambs have happened? Sounds like an excuse for why the numbers don't jive. |
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It had nothing to do with a recount from the Green Party. It was apparently from voters putting in their ballots in the machine and having jams because of multiple pages. Evidently it would count them multiple times. And this is the first election that these jambs have happened? Sounds like an excuse for why the numbers don't jive. To the contrary. It has happened before they said. |
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It had nothing to do with a recount from the Green Party. It was apparently from voters putting in their ballots in the machine and having jams because of multiple pages. Evidently it would count them multiple times. And this is the first election that these jambs have happened? Sounds like an excuse for why the numbers don't jive. To the contrary. It has happened before they said. Very convenient, and they didn't see that as a problem that needed immediate attention. I'm just playing devils advocate don't know anything about the situation. When I was in management, knowing about an issue like that and sitting on your hands would get you fired. Now knowing about the issue and devising a way to get an advantage with it doesn't seem to far from the realm of possibility. |
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