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« on: December 23, 2016, 02:05:05 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/ForAmerica/videos/1264572110267811/

it appears to be old news that I never heard about

Still it makes me sick to my stomach

On the plus side thanks Robert for the post about Trump getting Egypt which sits on the security council to do what Obama made our representative to UN abstain

Trump has now done more for middle east peace before Inauguration than Obama did in 4 yrs
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2016, 02:10:11 PM »

Well in another sicking twist

UNITED NATIONS — Defying extraordinary pressure from President-elect Donald J. Trump and furious lobbying by Israel, the Obama administration on Friday allowed the United Nations Security Council to adopt a resolution that condemned Israeli settlement construction.

The administration’s decision not to veto the measure reflected its growing frustration over Israeli settlements, and broke a longstanding American policy of serving as Israel’s sturdiest diplomatic shield at the United Nations.
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2016, 02:10:23 PM »

Obama said that he knows a certain percentage of these fine people being released go right back into their old ways of killing innocent people with acts or terrorism.  And he's just fine with that.  

But Trump is reckless.
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2016, 02:18:39 PM »

Well in another sicking twist

UNITED NATIONS — Defying extraordinary pressure from President-elect Donald J. Trump and furious lobbying by Israel, the Obama administration on Friday allowed the United Nations Security Council to adopt a resolution that condemned Israeli settlement construction.

The administration’s decision not to veto the measure reflected its growing frustration over Israeli settlements, and broke a longstanding American policy of serving as Israel’s sturdiest diplomatic shield at the United Nations.

I heard about this yesterday.  This one takes the cake.

You know, Obama's not worth any more of my time.  No more.  Good riddance to him and his classless no-hope all this for a flag wife.  I won't waste anymore thought, reading, or typing time on their game.

Bye-Bye Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama.
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2016, 04:40:36 PM »

Class-less Ass hat that he is!
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2016, 05:32:15 PM »

Obummer just threw Is real under the bus.
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2016, 05:52:06 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpXMe_R2BZk

PAT CONDELL on the Jew-hating United Nations persecution of Israel

This video is from 2012, but even more relevant today.
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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2016, 08:13:21 PM »

Very sickening. Obummer has never been on our side and never been on Israel's side. In light of that, I guess we know who's side he is on.

We came within a hair of throwing our country and Israel down the drain in November. I have to believe we were saved with help from above. Let's hope we and the free world use our win well.
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2016, 05:57:19 AM »

The TURD that IS obummer is doing everything he can to trash what is left of AMERICA and what She stands for. It can NOT be 21 January 2017 Quick Enough. And-YES-I Have had my coffee. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2016, 06:45:26 AM »

More on this.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/12/23/trump-was-right-to-try-to-stop-obama-from-tying-his-hands-on-israel.html?refresh=true
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2016, 07:24:09 AM »

I just pray Gods mercy on us we the people for what this so called ****** leader has done to Israel! The past speaks for itself on those who has done harm to or turned their back on Israel !!
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2016, 12:33:40 PM »

I would wonder if Trump may cancel all funding for the UN in his first week after getting Congress to void our participation in Obama's
despicable scheme

In the light of day the only truly deplorable is the current POTUS

Imagine if we had to give all of the USA back to the native americans
the Russians give back their pacific territories, england give back ireland and scotland, the Turks give the Kurds land or the Chinese give back Tibet

What a f r e aking joke the Un is sucking at the tit of oil and gold

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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2016, 01:57:24 PM »

I just pray Gods mercy on us we the people for what this so called ****** leader has done to Israel! The past speaks for itself on those who has done harm to or turned their back on Israel !!
Why would somebody that supposedly hates Israel and has turned his back on them, give them the largest military aid package in history ? $40 Billion
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2016, 06:39:58 PM »

I just pray Gods mercy on us we the people for what this so called ****** leader has done to Israel! The past speaks for itself on those who has done harm to or turned their back on Israel !!
Why would somebody that supposedly hates Israel and has turned his back on them, give them the largest military aid package in history ? $40 Billion

Why would someone you say loves them so much, use US influence and money to try to unseat their Prime Minister in his election? Doing what he accuses Putin of doing?
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2016, 06:43:44 PM »

I just pray Gods mercy on us we the people for what this so called ****** leader has done to Israel! The past speaks for itself on those who has done harm to or turned their back on Israel !!
Why would somebody that supposedly hates Israel and has turned his back on them, give them the largest military aid package in history ? $40 Billion

Why would someone you say loves them so much, use US influence and money to try to unseat their Prime Minister in his election? Doing what he accuses Putin of doing?
MP, I never said anything about him loving anybody. I just stated that if he was as evil as Jym777 stated and really hated Israel, wouldn't he try to cut back on their aid instead of giving them record amounts of it ?
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« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2016, 08:04:19 PM »

I just pray Gods mercy on us we the people for what this so called ****** leader has done to Israel! The past speaks for itself on those who has done harm to or turned their back on Israel !!
Why would somebody that supposedly hates Israel and has turned his back on them, give them the largest military aid package in history ? $40 Billion

Why would someone you say loves them so much, use US influence and money to try to unseat their Prime Minister in his election? Doing what he accuses Putin of doing?
MP, I never said anything about him loving anybody. I just stated that if he was as evil as Jym777 stated and really hated Israel, wouldn't he try to cut back on their aid instead of giving them record amounts of it ?

For the Jewish and Israel supporter votes he wanted for Hillary to ensure his legacy? Of course, she didn't win so time to undermine them.
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2016, 09:37:34 PM »

I would wonder if Trump may cancel all funding for the UN in his first week after getting Congress to void our participation in Obama's
despicable scheme

In the light of day the only truly deplorable is the current POTUS

Imagine if we had to give all of the USA back to the native americans
the Russians give back their pacific territories, england give back ireland and scotland, the Turks give the Kurds land or the Chinese give back Tibet

What a f r e aking joke the Un is sucking at the tit of oil and gold



Humor? Alert

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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2016, 09:50:05 PM »

I just pray Gods mercy on us we the people for what this so called ****** leader has done to Israel! The past speaks for itself on those who has done harm to or turned their back on Israel !!
Why would somebody that supposedly hates Israel and has turned his back on them, give them the largest military aid package in history ? $40 Billion

Why would someone you say loves them so much, use US influence and money to try to unseat their Prime Minister in his election? Doing what he accuses Putin of doing?
MP, I never said anything about him loving anybody. I just stated that if he was as evil as Jym777 stated and really hated Israel, wouldn't he try to cut back on their aid instead of giving them record amounts of it ?

For the Jewish and Israel supporter votes he wanted for Hillary to ensure his legacy? Of course, she didn't win so time to undermine them.

Oh wow......

Obama's playing 3-level chess, while the rest are playing checkers......

Oh yeah.........MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2016, 04:01:44 AM »

I just pray Gods mercy on us we the people for what this so called ****** leader has done to Israel! The past speaks for itself on those who has done harm to or turned their back on Israel !!
Why would somebody that supposedly hates Israel and has turned his back on them, give them the largest military aid package in history ? $40 Billion

Just more right wing misinformation. Nobody has turned their backs on Israel, just stood up to them for a change and resist them dictating our foreign policy in the mid-east and trying to get us in another war for them (Iran). Personally, I'm going to miss that.
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« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2016, 05:10:40 AM »

If it's any consolation, I'm noticing some Jews are starting to wake up. Several loyal Democrat liberal Jewish friends of mine have been telling me they'll NEVER vote Democrat again.

...let's see how their determination and memories holdout though...

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« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2016, 05:38:56 AM »

I'm not Jewish, so I'm not in touch with how our Jewish American Citizens think, but our rich Jewish hollywood actors and actresses, our millionaire Jewish Democratic backers, and our Jewish politicians always back the Democrats. Why no outspoken words for Obama on our nuke deal to Iran or the current UN abstain? If I was Jewish, and this were being done and I backed Obama and the Democratic Party and politicians, I would be up in arms!
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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2016, 08:18:56 AM »

I know Dershowitz is pissed

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/12/26/alan-dershowitz-obama-betrayed-israel-allowing-un-security-vote-israel-settlements

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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2016, 02:24:19 PM »

Probably no support for the Democrats here.

Although I'm not Jewish I belonged to this organization at one time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_for_the_Preservation_of_Firearms_Ownership
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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2016, 03:04:57 PM »

Probably no support for the Democrats here.

Although I'm not Jewish I belonged to this organization at one time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_for_the_Preservation_of_Firearms_Ownership

Good folks, I follow them on Facebook...

One of the smart groups that MEANS it when they say "Never Again."

And one of their members posted this really cool Menorah:

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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2016, 03:46:58 PM »

Once again the O punishing our friends and allies while accommodating our enemies.  I think he said back in fall of 2012 to Dershowitz he had Israels back.  Of course he was looking for votes only.  He just put his knife in their back.

Perhaps this will bring about a real look at our close to 25 percent of funding this useless Dictator fawning organization that sucks off the gigantic tit of the American funding power.

Charles Krauthammer said in a funny tone tonight that that is a nice piece of real estate the buildings sit on.  Perhaps Trump can turn them into condominiums.
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« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2016, 09:13:35 PM »

I haven't been on the forums in awhile but seem "Oss" as the author of this topic and seen quite a few names I recognize. I just wanted to say hello and go Trump! 

I hope all is well my friends.

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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2016, 09:00:44 AM »

Stude31, good to hear from you, the family looks great I ve been following y'all on the facebook
Congratulations !

headpeon, the truth is that without understanding resolution 242 (are you old enough to look it up) which acknowledges the 1948 armistice line is just a military demarcation line you wont get it, ever
Of course your obvious bias speaks volumes for itself,

What country defeated 6 other countries that vowed its destruction in one week, re captured its ancient capital and  then a decade later gave the entire Sinai and gaza back to Egypt in exchange for its promise to no longer wage war and acknowledge its right to exist.

What a double standard- I suppose you support the Iran deal too? And since when has the USA fought a war for Israel, the USA forced cease fires in 1956 and 1967 and 1973, the opposite of fighting a war
Anyone caught helping Israel in the 48 war was subject to court martial.

Following your reasoning do you want the USA to give back Texas and California to the Mexicans ?

The whole UN - Arab Agenda is to dehumanize, delegitimize and isolate the Jewish State while ignoring the human rights abuses (slavery-death of gays-death of women-terrorism-jihad) of the Islamic world

Meanwhile the Arab states do not help their own, Jordan turned its back on the so called Palestinians who never had a state, their state is Jordan or their state is Egypt

The two state solution wont fly because the Moslem world does not recognize Israel, period

They like their Nazi allies want them all dead  I see what side you have taken when you say stand up to Israel

Standing up to Israel?  Really?  There are no Jews in Gaza, but there are hundred of terrorist tunnels, rockets etc   The West Bank?  really, name one contribution to the world from either the west bank or gaza besides terror   Both are a boil on the ass of humanity yet you dont seeing Israel saying they dont have a right to exist do you?

Democracy?  You really dont want to go there in describing any arab country
where you can be killed for questioning anything about a religious leader

Have a nice day
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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2016, 09:11:20 AM »

Someone please start a countdown clock!     
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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2016, 10:23:03 AM »

Someone please start a countdown clock!      

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?p0=263&iso=20210120T00&year=2021&month=1&day=20&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&msg=End%20of%20an%20Error&csz=1
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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2016, 10:29:01 AM »

Oh the countdown to Trump 2020

Thanks. I'm going out for more ammo

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« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2016, 11:19:02 AM »

Wow, that was forward thinking! Countdown to the DT's second term  cooldude


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« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2016, 11:25:00 AM »

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« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2016, 01:43:17 PM »





LOLOLOL... cooldude cooldude cooldude Grin

Good one......
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« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2016, 01:46:01 PM »

Wow, that was forward thinking! Countdown to the DT's second term  cooldude


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Jerry,

That's really not where I was going with that... Wink Wink

I was wondering when someone would dig up that little nugget.....not one of my most telepathic moments..... Embarrassed Embarrassed

That's almost frameable. (sp)

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« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2016, 02:42:45 PM »

 cooldude   All in fun and I would rather talk about Valks anyway and it is not very often I get in these types of talks however I admit I did save that one, worriedly, but kept nonetheless.   coolsmiley

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« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2016, 03:10:05 PM »

Wow, that was forward thinking! Countdown to the DT's second term  cooldude


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Jerry,

That's really not where I was going with that... Wink Wink

I was wondering when someone would dig up that little nugget.....not one of my most telepathic moments..... Embarrassed Embarrassed

That's almost frameable. (sp)

Bob 


LOL!  baldo, you're much too humble.  My impression was that was one of your best moments.   2funny 
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« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2016, 03:44:08 PM »

Wow, that was forward thinking! Countdown to the DT's second term  cooldude


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 Grin I'm proud to be part of that  cooldude
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« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2016, 04:54:00 PM »

...anyone wanna find the Vegas odds that Obama/Kerry unilaterally recognize a Palestinian nation and Jerusalem as it's capital before we're finally rid of them?

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« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2016, 07:52:37 PM »

Mr. Conspiracy here....

Been thinking about a few things and I'm gonna string them together.

The Obama administration dabbled in the Israeli elections in 2014-2015.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/
Basically funding political elements opposed to Netanyahu. The Obama administration will deny this and in a strict technical sense they can make the argument that they did not interfere or try to affect the Israeli election but you would have to be incredibly naive to believe them.
It was pretty obvious what the plan was.

Netanyahu still won.

We see Hilary while at the State Department pursuing policies that drove Israel nuts. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/19543

We further discover, through Wikileaks I believe and Foundation disclosures, donations to the Clinton Foundation, during Hillary's time at the State Department, from Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries to the tune of 10's of millions.https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/foreign-governments-gave-millions-to-foundation-while-clinton-was-at-state-dept/2015/02/25/31937c1e-bc3f-11e4-8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html

So we have an American administration involved in an attempt to defeat a Candidate in an Israeli election
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The Sec. of State pursuing anti-Israel policies and the same Sec. of State receiving 10's of millions from Countries who are Israel's natural enemies through her Foundation.

Then she runs for President.

So my thought is that when we get to the US election it was the Israelis that were the hackers and the source of the emails that were made public. They wanted to stop the election of Hillary Clinton first by trying to release emails that should have bolstered Bernie Sander's candidacy.

They continued to release damaging emails to bring Hillary's candidacy down.

Israel sees a clear and present danger with a Clinton administration, previously funded by their adversaries, following the Obama policies.   

The success of the plan is dubious. Hillary had no trouble beating herself. But I do believe that Israel was the source of the emails.

Hillary loses and Obama's legacy goes down in flames.

They know who is really behind the hacking and why.

They abstain from the UN vote to payback Netanyahu for the hacking and throw whatever possible peace process and Israel sovereignty into oblivion.

Pretty much like the Jr. High kids that they are and much of the party they led.

An administration does have the authority to pursue foreign policy. But Obama should have gone down this road years ago if he wished to go down it.
To throw a giant monkey wrench into the Middle East just weeks before he leaves office is inexcusable.

Shows his true colors. He would forsake his Country and it's allies for an attempt at a personal legacy.

One has to wonder how much damage does he plan on doing before he leaves.
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« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2016, 07:49:44 AM »

Stude31, good to hear from you, the family looks great I ve been following y'all on the facebook
Congratulations !

headpeon, the truth is that without understanding resolution 242 (are you old enough to look it up) which acknowledges the 1948 armistice line is just a military demarcation line you wont get it, ever
Of course your obvious bias speaks volumes for itself,

What country defeated 6 other countries that vowed its destruction in one week, re captured its ancient capital and  then a decade later gave the entire Sinai and gaza back to Egypt in exchange for its promise to no longer wage war and acknowledge its right to exist.

What a double standard- I suppose you support the Iran deal too? And since when has the USA fought a war for Israel, the USA forced cease fires in 1956 and 1967 and 1973, the opposite of fighting a war
Anyone caught helping Israel in the 48 war was subject to court martial.

Following your reasoning do you want the USA to give back Texas and California to the Mexicans ?

The whole UN - Arab Agenda is to dehumanize, delegitimize and isolate the Jewish State while ignoring the human rights abuses (slavery-death of gays-death of women-terrorism-jihad) of the Islamic world

Meanwhile the Arab states do not help their own, Jordan turned its back on the so called Palestinians who never had a state, their state is Jordan or their state is Egypt

The two state solution wont fly because the Moslem world does not recognize Israel, period

They like their Nazi allies want them all dead  I see what side you have taken when you say stand up to Israel

Standing up to Israel?  Really?  There are no Jews in Gaza, but there are hundred of terrorist tunnels, rockets etc   The West Bank?  really, name one contribution to the world from either the west bank or gaza besides terror   Both are a boil on the ass of humanity yet you dont seeing Israel saying they dont have a right to exist do you?

Democracy?  You really dont want to go there in describing any arab country
where you can be killed for questioning anything about a religious leader

Have a nice day

Nice reply Evan.

One thing to add.  There are about  1.4 million Arabs in the middle east who enjoy all that a free society can provide, including the right to vote and speak out against the government, and they all live in Israel. 
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