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Aluminum Overcast (WW 2 B-17) was in Kingman this weekend. Got a free air show from the back porch. Got to watch it take off twice and land once. It even flew RIGHT over our house at about 1000 ish feet well LOW any way. So I had some history shown this weekend. Took a walking tour of it few years back
Anyway felt like sharing
Dan
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2017, 12:40:32 PM » |
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Dan if you can get to the airfield for a walk thru do it !
9 o 9 comes by here once a year.
Just once I want to be able to actually have my camera ready when she comes over our house If you get to climb in 1 B17 or B24 you can appreciate the great courage of the flight crews in those tight quarters.
My uncle Dave (a 92 yr old marine) says he had to go thru several B24s' before they could find one that would not get shot down or crash. He is a great and humble guy part of the greatest generation indeed !
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2017, 01:23:54 PM » |
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I agree with Oss on tight quarters. I toured a B17 that landed here at Orlando Executive a couple years ago, those kids on the crew back then were a lot thinner than me. 
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2017, 03:20:50 PM » |
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Old B52 crew chief here. I know how cramped we were. Can't imagine it in one of those. Had seen a few at some air shows when I was in doing a static display, but could never get close enough.
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2017, 03:23:39 PM » |
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John, that B-17 was the same plane. It was in Leesburg just before it headed down your way. Believe it will probably be at Sun-N-Fun this year.
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2017, 03:46:10 PM » |
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I was able to do a walk thru on the B-17 Memphis Belle some years back. I flew part time Air crew in a Grumman S-2. I MAY have put on a few pounds tween air crewin and my tour of The Belle!  No WAY No HOW can I imagine 25-30000 feet in an unpressurized unheated work space! And B T W-insulted leathers will NOT stop bullets or shrapnel. I've mentioned this before but when I lived in Lamar Colorado I had a B-17 and a B-24 fly over my place. Would have LOVED to hear what a thousand plane raid would have sounded like!  I do KNOW however what 12-14 S-2s getting ready for take off sound like-2 round motors per bird-and then flying over the ship after they formed up! Hell of a sound-weren't it Dan? RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2017, 06:05:37 AM » |
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I have right seat time in Fuddy Duddy. They are a beautiful flying airplane, very mild mannered.
But I still am in awe of those who flew and crewed them in war time. These things are so small and they stuck 10 people in them.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2017, 06:25:36 AM » |
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My cousin ( second cousin Fathers age ) Abraham was a pilot of the B-17. Hus crew was shot down and a POWS for some time. I never talked to him about it. My Father had told me the German camp treated them all right, but they had very little as the German soldiers did not have it either.
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2017, 11:27:27 AM » |
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my dad at 17 was a tail gunner for a B-17--he was 117 #'s and was chosen as he could fit back there but only w/o a parachute..none could fit with one---their odds of survival were none in a shoot down--the side gunners wore theirs all the time
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2017, 11:36:04 AM » |
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Told a guy wearing a B-17 hat thanks one time. He couldn't wait to talk. I loved listening. Tammy did too. He was a ball gunner. "Great view, not much toilet paper". Then I showed her where he sat. She started to cry, bless her heart. We had Air Show quals here last weekend. Fortuatlely, I was at work by the air port. 2 Mustangs, 2 Thunderbolts and a Lightening.
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2017, 08:48:40 PM » |
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I got to spend half a day crawling around Nine-0-Nine and the B-24 Witchcraft. Took a million pics. Were people alot smaller 70 yrs ago or something??? A B-17 tail gunner from WWII was there, a B-17 pilot was also there, a B-24 pilot was also there. Pretty neat. Got to see them take off and land two. A Mustang was also there that was taking folks on rides so that one was in and out every half hour or so. Love them old planes.
I have an old photo album of my Dads, he went in shortly after WWII. There are a bunch of pics of the old planes they were working on, from the WWII planes into the beginnings of the jets. It's cool looking at old black and whites of my dad with these old Warbirds.
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