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« on: March 10, 2017, 07:41:23 AM » |
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Found this on Craigslist, wondering if someone nearby could take a look, please. https://louisville.craigslist.org/mcy/6028408324.htmlOr if you know the bike and or the owner. Switched out motor makes me a little uneasy. Says it sat last year. Let me know. Thanx
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2017, 07:45:09 AM » |
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Rebuilt titles on vehicles always concern me as I am concerned about hidden damage. Hope you can find someone to look it over closely for you. Worst case, maybe you can have the owner take it to a Honda dealer and pay them to give it a once over?
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2017, 10:34:26 AM » |
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Not sure I would spend the money on the dealership. When do you think was the last time someone, anyone, at the dealership worked on a Valkyrie? Or even looked more closely than if it was in the parking lot. I wouldn't think they would be able to recognize a problem that wasn't glaring in front of them.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2017, 02:14:36 PM » |
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Gotta' wonder why a Valkyrie would need a new motor at 11K miles. Or 111K miles.
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2017, 02:23:22 PM » |
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Pais , I am sure I have seen that bike before. I was looking last year and came across it. I may be wrong , but make sure you have someone fingerprint it.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2017, 03:20:26 PM » |
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Just saw this, a friend of mine who has three side cars and I were going to go look at it. Spoke to the owner about it. He said the bike was not wrecked but when they swapped engines, he got a rebuilt title. At that point, I became wary. Not because it's got a rebuilt title (although that does play a role in what I think it's worth) but, I can see no reason to retitle a bike because you put a different engine on it. I've swapped numerous engines the last thirty years, never once did it require the vehicle to be retitled. The new to the bike engine is a low mileage engine but, I don't remember the number he gave me. The most I ever had to do was have the title changed from 4 cylinder to 6 or 8. Never had to retitle anything, especially with a rebuilt title. That made me skeptical. The side car is worth about $1500 to $2000 according to my friend (who has owned the same version). The fact that it's already mounted to the Valkyrie means a lot because different bikes require different attaching hardware so, that's a good thing but, as I said, I'm skeptical and most likely have lost interest. For me, it's at most a $4500 unit. I sincerely doubt he'd sell it for that and with my Caution Warning Light lighting up and blinking, I surely wouldn't go over that. Good luck in what ever you decide to do.
If you want it, don't let my interest slow you down. If it's still there and available when the weather warms up, my friend and I intend to ride over and take a look. I'm most concerned about frame issues on the Valkyrie, they can be difficult to find and see without taking off the tank and doing some serious looking.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2017, 05:36:08 AM » |
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Just saw this, a friend of mine who has three side cars and I were going to go look at it. Spoke to the owner about it. He said the bike was not wrecked but when they swapped engines, he got a rebuilt title. At that point, I became wary. Not because it's got a rebuilt title (although that does play a role in what I think it's worth) but, I can see no reason to retitle a bike because you put a different engine on it. I've swapped numerous engines the last thirty years, never once did it require the vehicle to be retitled. The new to the bike engine is a low mileage engine but, I don't remember the number he gave me. The most I ever had to do was have the title changed from 4 cylinder to 6 or 8. Never had to retitle anything, especially with a rebuilt title. That made me skeptical. The side car is worth about $1500 to $2000 according to my friend (who has owned the same version). The fact that it's already mounted to the Valkyrie means a lot because different bikes require different attaching hardware so, that's a good thing but, as I said, I'm skeptical and most likely have lost interest. For me, it's at most a $4500 unit. I sincerely doubt he'd sell it for that and with my Caution Warning Light lighting up and blinking, I surely wouldn't go over that. Good luck in what ever you decide to do.
If you want it, don't let my interest slow you down. If it's still there and available when the weather warms up, my friend and I intend to ride over and take a look. I'm most concerned about frame issues on the Valkyrie, they can be difficult to find and see without taking off the tank and doing some serious looking.
Thanx for the feed back Rams! Keep this in mind, I find it interesting. When I spoke to the owner, this is what he told me. 1) He has owned it 3yrs. 2) Wife is sick, sat for most of last year. 3) Runs fine. 4) Previous owner is the one that switched motors. Bike that engine is from was in an accident with only front end/fork damage. PO put motor into bike with side car(this makes no sense). That is where conversation pretty much ended. Figured if someone nearby could take a look. It would save me a trip for nothing. If worth it and owner is negotiable then I thought it might be doable. I would love a sidecar set up but, not using my current Valk. Just about where I want her and nothing will pry this from my grasp! Love these bikes!
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2017, 05:59:28 AM » |
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Sounds really fishy to me. What happened with the motor that was originally in the side car bike? And why would you get a salvaged title for just switching motors? In my opinion that is now a 3,000 dollar bike with a 1500 dollar side car. 4500 together. And heis asking 2k over that?  anyone would be crazy to pay more than 4500 for a salvaged title bike. There is more reason for the salvaged title than just switching the motor.
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2017, 07:35:05 AM » |
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Thanx for the feed back Rams! Keep this in mind, I find it interesting. When I spoke to the owner, this is what he told me. 1) He has owned it 3yrs. 2) Wife is sick, sat for most of last year. 3) Runs fine. 4) Previous owner is the one that switched motors. Bike that engine is from was in an accident with only front end/fork damage. PO put motor into bike with side car(this makes no sense). That is where conversation pretty much ended. Figured if someone nearby could take a look. It would save me a trip for nothing. If worth it and owner is negotiable then I thought it might be doable. I would love a sidecar set up but, not using my current Valk. Just about where I want her and nothing will pry this from my grasp! Love these bikes!
I missed the part about the engine being installed by the P.O. It might be that the current owner/seller really doesn't think the bike was ever wrecked. Hard to say. Regardless, my Caution Light remains in bright flashing mode. My experienced side car friend and I are looking for an opportunity to go take a look at this rig. As I said, I have a very limited interest but if we're able to get over to Louisville, I'll be happy to let you know what we learn. I'd like to add a side car bike to the corral and have such an option now and then. But, I'm leary of this deal and limited on what I'd spend to get one anyway. Will let you know if I'm able to get over there. Actually, I'm scheduled to transport an old hot rod from Louisville to Lexington this Thursday but, won't be able to stop and take a look at the side car and bike. Wouldn't do a lot of good if I could, I want my friend who has three side car rigs to be there. He has a lot of experience with this kind of rig and I have none.
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2017, 12:48:33 PM » |
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A salvage title in most (if not all) states means the bike had been totaled (bought) by an insurance company and declared to be a total loss. After such an event it was bought from the insurance company and rebuilt.
It's smoke and mirrors. To obtain a salvage title, in most states, one needs to prove that it has been satisfactorily restored. How is that worth less than one that wasn't wrecked?
It's pretense at best.
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2017, 01:57:40 PM » |
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A salvage title in most (if not all) states means the bike had been totaled (bought) by an insurance company and declared to be a total loss. After such an event it was bought from the insurance company and rebuilt.
It's smoke and mirrors. To obtain a salvage title, in most states, one needs to prove that it has been satisfactorily restored. How is that worth less than one that wasn't wrecked?
It's pretense at best.
While that may be true, it is rare that a "Salvaged Titled" vehicle will have similar market value to one that has never been wrecked. The salvaged vehicle may be in even better condition than the non-wrecked vehicle but, rarely will it bring the same or similar values. While admittedly, one doesn't know about any used vehicle, a buyer is never sure all that was damaged in a wreck has been correctly repaired. I'll agree, it's a pretense at best. 
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2017, 03:22:00 PM » |
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A salvage title in most (if not all) states means the bike had been totaled (bought) by an insurance company and declared to be a total loss. After such an event it was bought from the insurance company and rebuilt.
It's smoke and mirrors. To obtain a salvage title, in most states, one needs to prove that it has been satisfactorily restored. How is that worth less than one that wasn't wrecked?
It's pretense at best.
My bike has been totaled twice but no salvaged title. The way I understand it is here in indiana if you buy it back from the insurance company before they get possession of it the title stays clear. Both times it was rebuilt by Anderson Honda in Madison Indiana. No it was not wrecked by me, both times it was my father in law. Once a girl pulled out in front of him and my MIL and he t-boned the car. The other was due to loose gravel in a corner. Not much damage either time but enough to be totaled. Hope I never find out how this actually works.
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2017, 07:53:15 PM » |
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A salvage title in most (if not all) states means the bike had been totaled (bought) by an insurance company and declared to be a total loss. After such an event it was bought from the insurance company and rebuilt.
It's smoke and mirrors. To obtain a salvage title, in most states, one needs to prove that it has been satisfactorily restored. How is that worth less than one that wasn't wrecked?
It's pretense at best.
My bike has been totaled twice but no salvaged title. The way I understand it is here in indiana if you buy it back from the insurance company before they get possession of it the title stays clear. Both times it was rebuilt by Anderson Honda in Madison Indiana. No it was not wrecked by me, both times it was my father in law. Once a girl pulled out in front of him and my MIL and he t-boned the car. The other was due to loose gravel in a corner. Not much damage either time but enough to be totaled. Hope I never find out how this actually works. That is correct as I understand it. If the insurance company doesn't take legal possession (transfer of title) then it will not be considered "salvaged". Interestingly, the state of Texas doesn't issue a salvage title under the totaled and purchased situation. It pisses off some subsequent non-Texas insurance people.
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