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Patrick
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« on: March 11, 2017, 10:03:33 AM »


-In alphabetical order
1. The American Cemetery at Aisne-Marne, France... A total of 2289
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2. The American Cemetery at Ardennes, Belgium... A total of 5329
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3. The American Cemetery at Brittany, France... A total of 4410
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4. Brookwood, England - American Cemetery... A total of 468
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5. Cambridge, England... A total of 3812
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6. Epinal, France - American Cemetery... A total of 5525
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7. Flanders Field, Belgium... A total of 368
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8. Florence, Italy... A total of 4402
http://gallery.mailchimp.com/18ee15d4996b2034673c2d10c/images/9ad20eb2-3aac-41fc-bf2b-6e56ef832c97.jpg
9. Henri-Chapelle, Belgium... A total of 7992
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10. Lorraine , France... A total of 10,489
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11 . Luxembourg, Luxembourg... A total of 5076
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12. Meuse-Argonne... A total of 14246
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13 . Netherlands, Netherlands... A total of 8301
http://gallery.mailchimp.com/18ee15d4996b2034673c2d10c/images/5982c8de-17b9-40a5-89d0-7004a295432d.jpg
14. Normandy, France... A total of 9387
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15. Oise-Aisne, France... A total of 6012
http://gallery.mailchimp.com/18ee15d4996b2034673c2d10c/images/13c3ab59-4a9b-4679-bbe6-fb24d6979c12.jpg
16. Rhone, France... A total of 861
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17. Sicily, Italy... A total of 7861
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18. Somme, France... A total of 1844
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19. St. Mihiel, France... A total of 4153
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20. Suresnes, France... A total of 1541
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Apologize to no one.
Remind those of our sacrifice and don't Confuse arrogance with leadership.
The count is 104,366
Dead, brave Americans.

And we had to watch Obama an
American elected leader who
Apologized to Europe and the
Middle East that our country is "arrogant"!
HOW MANY FRENCH, DUTCH, ITALIANS,
BELGIANS AND BRITS ARE BURIED ON
OUR SOIL... AFTER DEFENDING US
AGAINST OUR ENEMIES?
WE DON'T ASK FOR PRAISE...
BUT WE HAVE ABSOULUTELY NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE!
Americans, forward it!
Non-patriotic, delete it!
Most of the protected don't understand it.
DO THINK ABOUT THIS.
THANK YOU.
 

 


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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2017, 10:04:28 AM »

I was hoping the pics would come up/post
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2017, 10:11:36 AM »

WE will never see Donald Trump bow to anyone.

https://www.google.com/search?q=barack+obama+bowing&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiHvffuhc_SAhXDK5oKHU4IAkMQsAQIHA&biw=1280&bih=929

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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2017, 10:23:17 AM »

I seem to remember France helping us out in the revolutionary war

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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2017, 10:24:48 AM »

BRAVO PATRICK.
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2017, 10:29:08 AM »

Did something happen recently, or do you guys get up in the morning and ask yourselves...


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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2017, 10:30:13 AM »

I didn't see bitching I saw a proud AMERICAN posting what he felt coolsmiley
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2017, 10:56:22 AM »

I didn't see bitching I saw a proud AMERICAN posting what he felt coolsmiley

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Bitching ? Um NO

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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2017, 11:00:31 AM »

If one were to read the entire paragraph it puts it more in context.

"In recent years we've allowed our Alliance to drift. I know that there have been honest disagreements over policy, but we also know that there's something more that has crept into our relationship. In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive. But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual but can also be insidious. Instead of recognizing the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what's bad. On both sides of the Atlantic, these attitudes have become all too common. They are not wise. They do not represent the truth. They threaten to widen the divide across the Atlantic and leave us both more isolated."

As to none of the Europeans buried here defending us. It's been a long time since I've had U.S. History class, but I seem to recall the French helping us in our Revolution. I'm sure some of them died here. As to the rest. It's pretty hard for them to come here and help in a war of invasion, if we haven't been invaded. To say that other countries aren't appreciative of what we did in WWII is sorely mistaken. I KNOW the Aussies are very appreciative of us. Even 35 years later they treated us Sailors very kindly and brought us into their homes and made us feel like family. I haven't been to much of Europe but I would bet there are still people who appreciate us very much.
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2017, 12:02:05 PM »

I believe this issue is that President Obama felt the need to apologize when there was no need for an apology but, as always, YMMV
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2017, 12:09:25 PM »

I believe this issue is that President Obama felt the need to apologize when there was no need for an apology but, as always, YMMV
Please explain how that is an apology ?
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2017, 12:21:16 PM »

I seem to remember France helping us out in the revolutionary war

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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2017, 12:27:03 PM »

I believe this issue is that President Obama felt the need to apologize when there was no need for an apology but, as always, YMMV
Please explain how that is an apology ?
Did he not do so? If he did it IS an apology.Correct?
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2017, 12:29:11 PM »

I believe this issue is that President Obama felt the need to apologize when there was no need for an apology but, as always, YMMV
Please explain how that is an apology ?

Not my problem to research or explain, I was only interpreting what I thought you were asking about.
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2017, 01:21:40 PM »

I believe this issue is that President Obama felt the need to apologize when there was no need for an apology but, as always, YMMV
Please explain how that is an apology ?

Not my problem to research or explain, I was only interpreting what I thought you were asking about.
I will try to rephrase my question more clearly. Patrick said his use of calling America arrogant was an apology. I quoted the paragraph where he said that as to put it more in context. My question is how is that paragraph taken as an apology ? It seems to me he is pointing out our alliance as a good thing and showing where we have both weakened it in some of our actions. (Both sides) As I understand it an apology is saying you are sorry for wronging another party and take responsibility for it.
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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2017, 02:11:00 PM »

Motivations?

France may have helped in 1780 but the enemy of their enemy was their friend  And just a few years earlier and later the French were not our friends (french and indian wars - using the native americans to foment war on the boundary states  the origin of the militias)   We bailed them out losing a hundred or thousand fold or more than France ever sacrificed to beat their enemy the British !!

Likewise Hessians on either side of that war but the  Poles perhaps more of a factor at least the general and his boys Koskiusko (sp)

Lets see as far as Europe's leading role in being over run and dominated by islamic fanatics, sharia law, anti semitism, mass rapes of women and fear of leaving your neighborhood  you are serious?

Yeah Europe is some beacon of light isnt it?
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2017, 03:33:13 PM »

Here is the context of his Japan speech, and France speech sure sounds like an apology and blaming the US to me.
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/6107/president-obama-gives-one-most-repulsive-speeches-ben-shapiro

President Obama said America’s use of the A-bomb to end the threat of Japanese fascism sprang from American desire for conquest,   ???

 How easily we learn to justify violence in the name of some higher cause. Every great religion promises a pathway to love and peace and righteousness, and yet no religion has been spared from believers who have claimed their faith as a license to kill. ( now blaming religion?)

We may not be able to eliminate man’s capacity to do evil, so nations and the alliances that we form must possess the means to defend ourselves. But among those nations like my own that hold nuclear stockpiles, we must have the courage to escape the logic of fear and pursue a world without them. We may not realize this goal in my lifetime, but persistent effort can roll back the possibility of catastrophe. We can chart a course that leads to the destruction of these stockpiles.

We can stop the spread to new nations and secure deadly materials from fanatics.  2funny 2funny can you say IRAN? Major fail

Apology to France and Europe ("America Has Shown Arrogance")

Speech by President Obama, Rhenus Sports Arena, Strasbourg, France, April 3, 2009.


So we must be honest with ourselves. In recent years we've allowed our Alliance to drift. I know that there have been honest disagreements over policy, but we also know that there's something more that has crept into our relationship.

In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. (LIE)

Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.
   
 Obama Tells The U.N.: Giving Up Freedom Enhances American Security
"Giving up some freedom of action...binding ourselves to the international rules over the long-term enhances our security."

“Sometimes I am criticized in my own country for professing a belief in international norms and multilateral institutions,” Obama told the assembly of foreign diplomats. “But I am convinced in the long run, giving up some freedom of action, not giving up our ability to protect ourselves or pursue our core interests, but binding ourselves to the international rules over the long-term enhances our security.”

 
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I am proud of my country of the people who served and died for the cause of freedom, that the US is called the Worlds Bread Basket and that without the US Africa would be a dead piece of land. That the US gives more than any other country in the form of donations to help other countries and causes. So while we have seen abuses of power from the US which is not a fault of the people but of those in government I am very proud of what the US has done.
 
With the above examples and with the European Union and Brexit of course yes the relationship is dismissive even derisive, because the European Union or United Nations has wanted the US to give up its sovereignty and still pay for NATO, the UN, and all the perks that come from being friends with the US. Yet what nation has taken the lead and helped any other nation as much as the US. In fact why hasn't the Saudis given the US all the money back for saving their oil from Saddam?
 How many judgements has there been about Israel on human rights when every other country has worse human rights and if not for the US there would be UN troops at Israels door.

In Japan right now whose ships are patrolling the waters between China and Japan? I wonder who is paying for them? I also wonder what South Korea is paying for their missile defense system supplied by the US. Or what about the joint military operations that are going on with South Korea.

Why today do we have men in prison for serving on the military? Who are told rules of engagement that put thier own lives at risk and the former commander and chief did nothing about it?

I also want to point out that Donald Trump BANNED from giving historic address in British Parliament's grandest hall where is the respect due to the US. You take the good with the bad when it comes to having a country protect your best interests.

I will also say that this country unlike other countries was formed for people to worship and serve God. It gave this country a different perspective and blessings that the rest of the world except for Israel did not get. It gave this country a servants heart and caring for people in general and morals that many countries dont have. Without a leader to appreciate this they will never be the leader they are supposed to be.

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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2017, 06:31:41 PM »

Did something happen recently, or do you guys get up in the morning and ask yourselves...


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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2017, 07:02:46 PM »

Not sure where this thread is going or what it is actually trying achieve. But I'll weigh in on it.

A quote from Pres. Obama...

“Sometimes I am criticized in my own country for professing a belief in international norms and multilateral institutions,” Obama told the assembly of foreign diplomats. “But I am convinced in the long run, giving up some freedom of action, not giving up our ability to protect ourselves or pursue our core interests, but binding ourselves to the international rules over the long-term enhances our security.”

From this it seems to me that Pres. Obama's view of the world is to have the United States "bind" itself to "international rules". To be a part of the international community. To, in other words, fit in. Be part of the consensus.

It is clear to me that Pres. Obama has never really understood or believed in the special place and role this country has in the world.

We are not just another country. We are unique. Very unique. We are not a race of people. We are not an ethnic group. The point of this country is to unleash the Human spirit. The point of this country is to welcome the best and brightest from every country and corner of the world, that we can come together under one homogenous culture. We are the best country in the world because we are made up of the best in the world willing to excel.

We are not here to be a part of the international community. We are here to lead it. We are not here to bind ourselves to ridiculous international rules. The international community should be looking to bind themselves to ours.

As was said, what we have had is an administration that confused arrogance for leadership.
Do we always get it right? Of course not. But that doesn't mean we should no longer strive to lead and excel.

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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2017, 07:32:08 PM »

Not sure where this thread is going or what it is actually trying achieve. But I'll weigh in on it.

A quote from Pres. Obama...

“Sometimes I am criticized in my own country for professing a belief in international norms and multilateral institutions,” Obama told the assembly of foreign diplomats. “But I am convinced in the long run, giving up some freedom of action, not giving up our ability to protect ourselves or pursue our core interests, but binding ourselves to the international rules over the long-term enhances our security.”

From this it seems to me that Pres. Obama's view of the world is to have the United States "bind" itself to "international rules". To be a part of the international community. To, in other words, fit in. Be part of the consensus.

It is clear to me that Pres. Obama has never really understood or believed in the special place and role this country has in the world.

We are not just another country. We are unique. Very unique. We are not a race of people. We are not an ethnic group. The point of this country is to unleash the Human spirit. The point of this country is to welcome the best and brightest from every country and corner of the world, that we can come together under one homogenous culture. We are the best country in the world because we are made up of the best in the world willing to excel.

We are not here to be a part of the international community. We are here to lead it. We are not here to bind ourselves to ridiculous international rules. The international community should be looking to bind themselves to ours.

As was said, what we have had is an administration that confused arrogance for leadership.
Do we always get it right? Of course not. But that doesn't mean we should no longer strive to lead and excel.


              I've had "people" try/attempt/want to make me ashamed of my Country and a Uniform I wore. They all failed. While times and administrations may have changed My core belief in this Country has Not changed. NO one from the potus on down could ever change what I believe in or what I stand for. Our Current POTUS I Pray is and will stand for AMERICA and all She stands for and all She has stood for. Apoligize for winning a couple wars that other people started?? For showing the Rest of the World What FREEDOM actually looks and feels like? We-AMERICA-need to git back to 1000 pound gorilla mode-you know-the one that sits and craps any cursed where it damn well pleases itself to do.  cooldude RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2017, 09:26:12 PM »

I seem to remember France helping us out in the revolutionary war

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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2017, 09:46:29 PM »

Not sure where this thread is going or what it is actually trying achieve. But I'll weigh in on it.

A quote from Pres. Obama...

“Sometimes I am criticized in my own country for professing a belief in international norms and multilateral institutions,” Obama told the assembly of foreign diplomats. “But I am convinced in the long run, giving up some freedom of action, not giving up our ability to protect ourselves or pursue our core interests, but binding ourselves to the international rules over the long-term enhances our security.”

From this it seems to me that Pres. Obama's view of the world is to have the United States "bind" itself to "international rules". To be a part of the international community. To, in other words, fit in. Be part of the consensus.

It is clear to me that Pres. Obama has never really understood or believed in the special place and role this country has in the world.

We are not just another country. We are unique. Very unique. We are not a race of people. We are not an ethnic group. The point of this country is to unleash the Human spirit. The point of this country is to welcome the best and brightest from every country and corner of the world, that we can come together under one homogenous culture. We are the best country in the world because we are made up of the best in the world willing to excel.

We are not here to be a part of the international community. We are here to lead it. We are not here to bind ourselves to ridiculous international rules. The international community should be looking to bind themselves to ours.

As was said, what we have had is an administration that confused arrogance for leadership.
Do we always get it right? Of course not. But that doesn't mean we should no longer strive to lead and excel.


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