FBI director out

[Daddie O]

To compare the Clinton Foundation, it's charitable work saving millions of lives, and any access that donors might have to Hillary to Mar-a-Lago is ridiculous.  The President is literally selling memberships for $200k that grant you access to the President.  He will stop by your wedding party or whatever, just cough up some change.  Or maybe spend $500k on a Kushner property and you will be issued an American visa!  

I know you absolutely despise Hillary, but when Trump does something, look at it through the filter of "what if Hillary or Barack did this?".  If Hillary owned Mar-a-Lago and was President, and was selling memberships, and bringing foreign dignitaries there, and profiting off it, what would you say?

You and Trump were all up in arms about Obama's executive orders, but nary a peep about the litany of Trump's executive orders.  Obama resorted to some executive orders after years of trying to negotiate with Republican obstructionists that refused to even vote on stuff, yet Trump just writes order after order like he is a king, and y'all have nothing to say about it.

[Daddie O]

A domestic political party favoring one candidate over another is not a crime.  Collusion with a foreign government, affecting the outcome of an election, is treason.

[The emperor has no clothes]

To me the point isn't really about him firing Comey, but him trying everything he can to subvert the investigations.

Please enlighten me with what Trump has done to subvert the investigation?   To my knowledge, no committee or investigation has come up with squat.   But, I readily admit, I don't have any inside investigation, only accusations and he could have, may have................

A lot of mud or crap slinging going on but, where's the proof.   Bring that independent investigator on.

I'm going to try to politely answer this without turning this into another locked down thread.

1) the whitehouse has refused to turn over any material to the House committee investigating Flynn's wrongdoings.
2) Trump still refuses to put out his tax returns.
3) they brought in Nunes to try to trick the public into thinking BS.
4) by firing the person in charge of the organization investigating his aides and their Russian dealings, he has set it back if not damaged it.


If a person has nothing to hide they are usually more than happy to get everything out in the open. Doesn't appear to be the case here.

[G-Man]

If you supported an independent investigation into Bill Clinton's blowjobs, and a jillion Benhghazi investigations, and even more email investigations, and you do not support an independent investigation into Trump's Russian collusion, you are the definition of a hypocrite.

Show me the collusion and I'll be on your side for an investigation.  Just because one side "says" there's collusion doesn't mean there is.  They do lie to get their way, you know.  "You can keep your....."  

Again, Trump and his people aren't under investigation, no matter how many times the Left says they are.  So, what would an independent investigator investigate.  False claims?  

And I believe we all clearly see where the hypocrisy lies since November.

[G-Man]

For you to claim to know who is under investigation, for what, and what evidence is had at this moment is ridiculous.  I feel pretty confident assuming you don't have that sort of classified clearance.

Yet YOU posted that Trump and his people are under investigation......................

 

[The emperor has no clothes]

I've got no problem with an independent investigator but, I want one for both the Russia/Trump insinuated link, the DNC's internal support of Clinton over Sanders and for Clinton's email.   

The stink from the last eight years is beyond anything I've ever experienced.    Makes Nixon look like an alter boy.    As someone much smarter than myself once said, follow the money.   Oh, and let's not forget about the Clinton foundation and selling influence while we're at it. 

There was nothing illegal about the DNC supporting Clinton. Unseemly, immoral, disgusting yes. But it is a private party.

One would wonder why certain parties within the DNC did support Clinton over Sanders.

Wouldn't the same rules apply to the Russians?   Were any election laws broken?   Unseemly, immoral, disgusting yes.

Ron, that's pretty easy to understand. She represented the status quo. He represented change. They didn't want change.
Comparing the DNC to a hostile foreign government trying to undermine our elections is downright laughable.

[Serk]

Comparing the DNC to a hostile foreign government trying to undermine our elections is downright laughable.

Yeah, because the DNC doesn't have a history of undermining our elections...

Oh wait...

Many of the most damaging emails suggest the committee was actively trying to undermine Bernie Sanders's presidential campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/24/here-are-the-latest-most-damaging-things-in-the-dncs-leaked-emails/?utm_term=.b1a93d1ac4a9

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm no lawyer. But if I had been served a subpoena I would assume I was under investigation.

[baldo]

If you supported an independent investigation into Bill Clinton's blowjobs, and a jillion Benhghazi investigations, and even more email investigations, and you do not support an independent investigation into Trump's Russian collusion, you are the definition of a hypocrite.

Show me the collusion and I'll be on your side for an investigation.  Just because one side "says" there's collusion doesn't mean there is.  They do lie to get their way, you know.  "You can keep your....."  

Again, Trump and his people aren't under investigation, no matter how many times the Left says they are.  So, what would an independent investigator investigate.  False claims?  

And I believe we all clearly see where the hypocrisy lies since November.

Hence, the calls for investigation.....that's how it works. Something happens, large enough to get lots of people all worked up, whatever it may be.  Claims are made, stories come to light.   That's why it's called an investigation. If there's nothing there, there's nothing there. Benghazi comes to mind. But that's another bag of worms.

I think trump was right.... http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/01/23/donald-trump-iowa-rally-shooting-sot.cnn

[Wizzard]

yeah,, firing Comey is 100% proof of a cover up,, but hiding a private server in a bathroom and deleting 30k emails is standard procedure. 

[..]

I do not know the answer or if there was any collusion or not I do not know. But why no investigation of Hillary and her plutonium deal?
I have seen the Democrats flip flop on this "Russian connection" as to however it fits their agenda more times than most people change underwear.

http://circa.com/politics/clinton-pressured-bangladesh-prime-minister-personally-to-help-foundation-donor

[Daddie O]

Help me to understand.  You are worried that Clinton having a private email server may have put classified information at risk of being seen by our adversaries, but Trump appointing foreign agents onto our National Security Council is no big deal? 

[The emperor has no clothes]

yeah,, firing Comey is 100% proof of a cover up,, but hiding a private server in a bathroom and deleting 30k emails is standard procedure. 

I don't think anybody thinks it a 100%, nor do I think anybody thinks what she did is standard operating procedure. At least I sure don't. I think where there is smoke there is usually fire. All I see right now is smoke. But I sure think we ought to look.
 Also, was the irony of him firing him by television one day and the next day in the Oval Office laughing and joking with the Russians lost on everyone ?

[John Schmidt]

Daddie O, I'm a bit amused by your comment re. the Republicans being obstructionists. I assume you do realize Harry Reid(sp?) had well over 300 bills submitted by the Repubs in the House that he absolutely refused to even bring up for discussion. As for Trump releasing all those EO's, you need to sit down and analyze what they're for, many of which were to overturn some of the crap that Obama had issued. As for hating Hillary, I don't know the woman so it's impossible for me to hate her. But, as for trusting her....that's a different story. I simply don't trust her and she hasn't shown me anything to reverse it. Do I like everything Trump has done thus far? No...but then having voted in more elections than you or the majority of our membership, I have yet to find a new president that I totally agreed with or accepted everything they do. Trump is no different, so I'll watch and wait to see what the next 4 years brings.

PS: How's the schooling going?

[Wizzard]

Help me to understand.  You are worried that Clinton having a private email server may have put classified information at risk of being seen by our adversaries, but Trump appointing foreign agents onto our National Security Council is no big deal?  

No,, you help me to understand your own comparison?  And what foreign agent did he appoint?  I bet you had no problem with hillary's clandestine dealings.

[Wizzard]

To me the point isn't really about him firing Comey, but him trying everything he can to subvert the investigations.

Please enlighten me with what Trump has done to subvert the investigation?   To my knowledge, no committee or investigation has come up with squat.   But, I readily admit, I don't have any inside investigation, only accusations and he could have, may have................

A lot of mud or crap slinging going on but, where's the proof.   Bring that independent investigator on.

I'm going to try to politely answer this without turning this into another locked down thread.

1) the whitehouse has refused to turn over any material to the House committee investigating Flynn's wrongdoings.
2) Trump still refuses to put out his tax returns.
3) they brought in Nunes to try to trick the public into thinking BS.
4) by firing the person in charge of the organization investigating his aides and their Russian dealings, he has set it back if not damaged it.


If a person has nothing to hide they are usually more than happy to get everything out in the open. Doesn't appear to be the case here.

I got nothing to hide and I don't want all my stuff out in the open,, and speaking of that,, what was Obama hiding in sealing his transcripts?  And again,, the Dems laughed when Trump said an election could be tampered with,, now that the shoe is on the other foot they are all crybabies. They hated Comey back then,, all of a sudden now he is a great guy???  What a bunch of BS

[baldo]

To me the point isn't really about him firing Comey, but him trying everything he can to subvert the investigations.

Please enlighten me with what Trump has done to subvert the investigation?   To my knowledge, no committee or investigation has come up with squat.   But, I readily admit, I don't have any inside investigation, only accusations and he could have, may have................

A lot of mud or crap slinging going on but, where's the proof.   Bring that independent investigator on.

I'm going to try to politely answer this without turning this into another locked down thread.

1) the whitehouse has refused to turn over any material to the House committee investigating Flynn's wrongdoings.
2) Trump still refuses to put out his tax returns.
3) they brought in Nunes to try to trick the public into thinking BS.
4) by firing the person in charge of the organization investigating his aides and their Russian dealings, he has set it back if not damaged it.


If a person has nothing to hide they are usually more than happy to get everything out in the open. Doesn't appear to be the case here.

I got nothing to hide and I don't want all my stuff out in the open,, and speaking of that,, what was Obama hiding in sealing his transcripts?  And again,, the Dems laughed when Trump said an election could be tampered with,, now that the shoe is on the other foot they are all crybabies. They hated Comey back then,, all of a sudden now he is a great guy???  What a bunch of BS

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but...

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

That's a tired old 'alternative fact' that really needs to die a well-deserved death.

And again, comparing his BS release 11 days before an election, proven to be BS, by the way, and to be the guy responsible for investigating potentially treasonous acts and being fired by the guy that could benefit......

Not even close.

[The emperor has no clothes]

To me the point isn't really about him firing Comey, but him trying everything he can to subvert the investigations.

Please enlighten me with what Trump has done to subvert the investigation?   To my knowledge, no committee or investigation has come up with squat.   But, I readily admit, I don't have any inside investigation, only accusations and he could have, may have................

A lot of mud or crap slinging going on but, where's the proof.   Bring that independent investigator on.

I'm going to try to politely answer this without turning this into another locked down thread.

1) the whitehouse has refused to turn over any material to the House committee investigating Flynn's wrongdoings.
2) Trump still refuses to put out his tax returns.
3) they brought in Nunes to try to trick the public into thinking BS.
4) by firing the person in charge of the organization investigating his aides and their Russian dealings, he has set it back if not damaged it.


If a person has nothing to hide they are usually more than happy to get everything out in the open. Doesn't appear to be the case here.

I got nothing to hide and I don't want all my stuff out in the open,, and speaking of that,, what was Obama hiding in sealing his transcripts?  And again,, the Dems laughed when Trump said an election could be tampered with,, now that the shoe is on the other foot they are all crybabies. They hated Comey back then,, all of a sudden now he is a great guy???  What a bunch of BS

Nor do I. But we weren't running to be president and become such. If my President's team and or President is involved with the Russians, I want to know. Do you ?

[Wizzard]

To me the point isn't really about him firing Comey, but him trying everything he can to subvert the investigations.

Please enlighten me with what Trump has done to subvert the investigation?   To my knowledge, no committee or investigation has come up with squat.   But, I readily admit, I don't have any inside investigation, only accusations and he could have, may have................

A lot of mud or crap slinging going on but, where's the proof.   Bring that independent investigator on.

I'm going to try to politely answer this without turning this into another locked down thread.

1) the whitehouse has refused to turn over any material to the House committee investigating Flynn's wrongdoings.
2) Trump still refuses to put out his tax returns.
3) they brought in Nunes to try to trick the public into thinking BS.
4) by firing the person in charge of the organization investigating his aides and their Russian dealings, he has set it back if not damaged it.


If a person has nothing to hide they are usually more than happy to get everything out in the open. Doesn't appear to be the case here.

I got nothing to hide and I don't want all my stuff out in the open,, and speaking of that,, what was Obama hiding in sealing his transcripts?  And again,, the Dems laughed when Trump said an election could be tampered with,, now that the shoe is on the other foot they are all crybabies. They hated Comey back then,, all of a sudden now he is a great guy???  What a bunch of BS

Nor do I. But we weren't running to be president and become such. If my President's team and or President is involved with the Russians, I want to know. Do you ?

of course,, but I also know that stuff can be manufactured by the opposition to make a case that does not exist. Thats my gut feeling here. We do not agree on this one

His tax return is just as important as some stuff his predecessor would not release. Tit for Tat. And I don't care.

[MP]

For you to claim to know who is under investigation, for what, and what evidence is had at this moment is ridiculous.  I feel pretty confident assuming you don't have that sort of classified clearance.

You say this, but what you said in just the post previous to this is:

 "The fact that he was praising the man for the job he was doing, but then fired the man in charge of investigating his crooked team of traitorous Russian secret agents, right in the middle of the investigation, does not pass the smell test. "

Huh?  You lambast somebody for thinking they know who is under investigation, then in your next post, talk about who is under investigation!

Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth!

[Wizzard]

To me the point isn't really about him firing Comey, but him trying everything he can to subvert the investigations.

Please enlighten me with what Trump has done to subvert the investigation?   To my knowledge, no committee or investigation has come up with squat.   But, I readily admit, I don't have any inside investigation, only accusations and he could have, may have................

A lot of mud or crap slinging going on but, where's the proof.   Bring that independent investigator on.

I'm going to try to politely answer this without turning this into another locked down thread.

1) the whitehouse has refused to turn over any material to the House committee investigating Flynn's wrongdoings.
2) Trump still refuses to put out his tax returns.
3) they brought in Nunes to try to trick the public into thinking BS.
4) by firing the person in charge of the organization investigating his aides and their Russian dealings, he has set it back if not damaged it.


If a person has nothing to hide they are usually more than happy to get everything out in the open. Doesn't appear to be the case here.

I got nothing to hide and I don't want all my stuff out in the open,, and speaking of that,, what was Obama hiding in sealing his transcripts?  And again,, the Dems laughed when Trump said an election could be tampered with,, now that the shoe is on the other foot they are all crybabies. They hated Comey back then,, all of a sudden now he is a great guy???  What a bunch of BS

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but...

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

That's a tired old 'alternative fact' that really needs to die a well-deserved death.

And again, comparing his BS release 11 days before an election, proven to be BS, by the way, and to be the guy responsible for investigating potentially treasonous acts and being fired by the guy that could benefit......

Not even close.

Baldo,, I don't really care. and here is what the Washington times said http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/28/obama-ducks-calls-to-release-his-collegiate-transc/

[Robert]

Kind of hoping now that Comey is fired they will reopen the Clinton emails and foundation investigations with the idea that Comey tainted the investigations. It seems Comey's taking the authority on himself was a direct result of Loretta Lynch saying she would not convene a Grand Jury investigation. I would also love to see Tray Gowdy as head of the FBI

Senate Judiciary Chair Hints That Comey Revealed Trump Not Under Investigation

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/11/senate-judiciary-chair-hints-that-comey-revealed-trump-not-under-investigation/

Hilarious: Democratic Flip Flop Reel On James Comey…
http://www.weaselzippers.us/338283-hilarious-democratic-flip-flop-reel-on-james-comey/

Obama AG Eric Holder: FBI's Comey 'Broke' Fundamental Principles, Hurt 'Public Trust' in FBI
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/obama-ag-eric-holder-comey-broke-fundamental-principles-hurt-public#.WROnylBDYIg.twitter

Former President Barack Obama went to Milan, Italy to talk at the Seeds&Chips Global Food Innovation Summit about climate change and its effect on food production. Mike Opelka was astounded by the $3.2 million pay out for the speech to the liberal politician, who once famously said “At a certain point, I think you’ve made enough money.”

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s letter detailing the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) rationale for calling for the dismissal of former FBI Director James Comey is heavy on professional grievance.

The memo, submitted to President Donald Trump on Tuesday, strongly suggests that officials at the Justice Department felt Comey improperly assumed prerogatives that rightly belong to career prosecutors at DOJ, instigating a bureaucratic turf war that left department officials displeased.

The memo opens with Rosenstein’s conclusion that Comey’s press conference on July 5, 2016, where he announced he would not recommend criminal charges over Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server, “usurped” the authority of his superiors at the Justice Department.

[98valk]

Oh Yes!, Oh yes! clintons are just so innocent and pure as snow.
http://circa.com/politics/clinton-pressured-bangladesh-prime-minister-personally-to-help-foundation-donor

[Daycruiser]

Good Ridden's, Comey and Lynch were just Obama pawns anyway.  He let Clinton off because he was told to by the POTUS.  Make it look legit but don't do anything about it.  Typical Washington Garbage. 

[big d]

How come not one of the dems complained about Russian involvement before Trump won even though they were trying. How come none of them complained when obama said on open mic that after the election he would have more freedom. How com not one of the democrats complained when John podesta joined the obama administration when he was still having dealings with Russia, business and financial. Or..... when Hillary gave Russia 20  percent of our uranium while bill was giving speeches over there. Sounds like collusion on many levels to me.

[Savago]

Guys

What about calm down a bit and try to find a common ground?

I would say that when it comes to a point where people got to choose between the Stinky X the Dirty we are in a pretty bad place (I saw this happening in Brazil and it didn't end well).

Justifying misbehavior in one side based on the dirty on the other side sets a pretty low standard.

I can say for sure one thing: none of the politicians care about us, the people, they all serve the banksters.

[Robert]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/04/23/us/clinton-foundation-donations-uranium-investors.html

Uranium

investors

September 2005

Frank Giustra, a Canadian mining financier, wins a major uranium deal in Kazakhstan for his company, UrAsia, days after visiting the country with former President Bill Clinton.

2006

Uranium

One

Mr. Giustra donates $31.3 million to the Clinton Foundation.

FebRuary 2007

UrAsia merges with a South African mining company and assumes the name Uranium One. In the next two months, the company expands into the United States.

June 2008

Negotations begin for an investment in Uranium One by the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom.

Rosatom

2008-2010

Uranium One and former UrAsia investors make $8.65 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One investors stand to profit on a Rosatom deal.

June 2009

Rosatom subsidiary ARMZ takes a 17 percent ownership stake in Uranium One.

17%

Stake

2010-2011

Investors give millions more in donations to the Clinton Foundation.

June 2010

Rosatom seeks majority ownership of Uranium One, pending approval by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, of which the State Department is a member.

 

Rosatom says it does not plan to increase its stake in Uranium One or to take the company private.

June 29, 2010

Bill Clinton is paid $500,000 for a speech in Moscow by a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin that assigned a buy rating to Uranium One stock.

October 2010

Rosatom’s majority ownership approved by Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.

51%

Stake

January 2013

Rosatom takes full control of Uranium One and takes it private.


The Clinton foundation is no more since Hillary lost the election, that one fact should be enough to have liberals and conservatives wanting an investigation.

Interesting enough Snopes says influence peddling is false LOL

[98valk]

Guys

What about calm down a bit and try to find a common ground?

I would say that when it comes to a point where people got to choose between the Stinky X the Dirty we are in a pretty bad place (I saw this happening in Brazil and it didn't end well).

Justifying misbehavior in one side based on the dirty on the other side sets a pretty low standard.

I can say for sure one thing: none of the politicians care about us, the people, they all serve the banksters.

Common ground??

on or off?

Good or Bad?

Fire or No-Fire?

Right or Wrong?

God's Moral ways or Man's Moral ways, which leads to destruction.

Jesus said, Rev 3:16 So, because you are lukewarm (common ground) and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth!

[Robert]

The middle class is getting slaughtered why dont we have a liberal cause for them? Just look around you and ask what would make that persons life better and more than likely it will be someone in the middle class that is struggling to make it. Thats when the country will be united when we look to our own people and stop corruption and influence peddling and balance the budget. When we keep our promises and make the people in government remember they work for us and hold them accountable.

[Savago]

@98valk: Leviticus 19:17-18.

[98valk]

@98valk: Leviticus 19:17-18.

what is your point?

[G-Man]

Good Ridden's, Comey and Lynch were just Obama pawns anyway.  He let Clinton off because he was told to by the POTUS.  Make it look legit but don't do anything about it.  Typical Washington Garbage. 

Absolutely!

Lynch says she's not gonna make the ultimate decision to prosecute, she's gonna leave that decision to Comey.  This is after being caught having a private conversation with the ex-potus husband of the ex-sos under investigation.  Obama knows there's nobody else his party has who can win the election so he orders Comey to come up with something, anything, that would help avoid prosecution.  That's where the nonsense of "intent" came from.  He read that laundry list of discretions that ANY ONE ELSE would have been successfully prosecuted and punished for, but said she didn't [mean/i] to do it.  And that was good enough for more than half of those that voted. 

I'm amazed that the election was all she lost.  She should lose her freedom until the 30,000 e-mails are turned over. 

[old2soon]

Still tryin to figure WHY neither bill or hilda be wearing bright orange with stenciled numbers. They both NEED to be incarcerated. RIDE SAFE.

[Serk]

Still tryin to figure WHY neither bill or hilda be wearing bright orange with stenciled numbers. They both NEED to be incarcerated. RIDE SAFE.

[..]

I do not know the answer or if there was any collusion or not I do not know. But why no investigation of Hillary and her plutonium deal?
I have seen the Democrats flip flop on this "Russian connection" as to however it fits their agenda more times than most people change underwear.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

[Rams]

I'm no lawyer. But if I had been served a subpoena I would assume I was under investigation.

Or, it is suspected you have knowledge related to the investigation and they want it.   

[Serk]

[Wizzard]

 

[therapist]

But , I guess, this is OK?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39931012

[Patrick]

But , I guess, this is OK?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39931012

Old news which has already been proven false.