predicted 2000 yrs ago

[98valk]

by the Word of God.   watch for new movies and TV shows to start to desensitized the younger generations. As they have done with other things since the '60s and '70s.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2017/08/09/you-get-chipped-eventually/547336001/

[MarkT]

They can chip my corpse if that helps them. Absolutely no way in hell do I believe this won't be abused over time.  And not much time either.  A higher-tech and more sinister Nazi number tatoo.

[old2soon]

NEVER as long as I'm breathing. NOT gonna happen to me. Agree with Mark. I kinda sorta Knew when they were chipping pets Humans were the next likely target.    RIDE SAFE.

[Jess from VA]

Put a chip in me?

Put a chip in you.......

[Serk]

I'm a non-religious person who's eagerly looking forward to the advent of wet-ware, but do NOT wanna be chipped and will fight that one 'till the end...

[DirtyDan]

Ok let's leave religion out........

Assimilation by the borg anyone ?

Not me

Dan

[art]

Leave the religion out and no chips here either. Jess has the right chips.

[Gryphon Rider]

My driver's licence is ######-666.  Am I the Anti-Christ, the Beast, or have I merely sold my soul, by getting my licence?

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm a non-religious person who's eagerly looking forward to the advent of wet-ware, but do NOT wanna be chipped and will fight that one 'till the end...

I had to google it. I thought maybe it was a new line put out by Helly-Hansen.

My driver's licence is ######-666.  Am I the Anti-Christ, the Beast, or have I merely sold my soul, by getting my licence?

Are we supposed to vote which we think it is ? 

[Serk]

I had to google it. I thought maybe it was a new line put out by Helly-Hansen.

If it's any consolation I had to google what a Helly-Hansen is.

[Safety Steve]

Hell, they all ready know what we like, what we buy and where we are right now, because we all carry a cell phone.  Its just a matter of time and they will put something in your body that will enable you to communicated with anyone by thinking it.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I had to google it. I thought maybe it was a new line put out by Helly-Hansen.

If it's any consolation I had to google what a Helly-Hansen is.

actually, I guess it is.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Hell, they all ready know what we like, what we buy and where we are right now, because we all carry a cell phone.  Its just a matter of time and they will put something in your body that will enable you to communicated with anyone by thinking it.

Oh, I sense big trouble. They are not going to like what I think about. 

[Gavin_Sons]

Hell, they all ready know what we like, what we buy and where we are right now, because we all carry a cell phone.  Its just a matter of time and they will put something in your body that will enable you to communicated with anyone by thinking it.

Oh, I sense big trouble. They are not going to like what I think about. 

You are not alone. 

[Willow]

Hell, they all ready know what we like, what we buy and where we are right now, because we all carry a cell phone.  Its just a matter of time and they will put something in your body that will enable you to communicated with anyone by thinking it.

Oh, I sense big trouble. They are not going to like what I think about. 

No worries, MH.  The brain waves involved in pictorial or verbal thinking is too complex.  We wouldn't see that in our lifetime.  Revealing emotional response, maybe.

As to the original title, the Word of God does not predict.  It reveals.  I thought CA would have known that.   

[J.Mencalice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IKVj4l5GU4

IT'S PEOPLE!!!!!!

[old2soon]

Hell, they all ready know what we like, what we buy and where we are right now, because we all carry a cell phone.  Its just a matter of time and they will put something in your body that will enable you to communicated with anyone by thinking it.

Oh, I sense big trouble. They are not going to like what I think about. 

           "THEY" whoever in the heck "THEY" are WILL adjust yer thoughts to be in line. Believe Carl got it with not in our lifetime but remain vigilante. RIDE SAFE.

[J.Mencalice]

Hell, they all ready know what we like, what we buy and where we are right now, because we all carry a cell phone.  Its just a matter of time and they will put something in your body that will enable you to communicated with anyone by thinking it.

Nope, no "All" hereabouts and nope, I don't and won't own one of those "devil machines".

Note: If South Korea gets obliterated, the LCD display market will be destroyed as they produce approximately 40% of the world's LCD's for televisions and other electronic devices; as well as 17% of the world's semi-conductors used in smart phones. It takes two years to build a semi-conductor factroy from scratch.  This is from an analysis by Capital Economics Ltd. and published today by Bloomberg.
End result of war in Korea is that nobody finds nobody.

Not a hijack, just some hijinks.
Out.

[98valk]

Hell, they all ready know what we like, what we buy and where we are right now, because we all carry a cell phone.  Its just a matter of time and they will put something in your body that will enable you to communicated with anyone by thinking it.

Oh, I sense big trouble. They are not going to like what I think about. 

No worries, MH.  The brain waves involved in pictorial or verbal thinking is too complex.  We wouldn't see that in our lifetime.  Revealing emotional response, maybe.

As to the original title, the Word of God does not predict.  It reveals.  I thought CA would have known that.   

looks like either word works. God revealed to John who wrote/predicted it, gave details/example as u know. works either way, that's my take.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/predict

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/reveal

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/foretell


Revelation 13:17A

17 So that no one will have power to buy or sell unless he bears the stamp (mark, inscription) {chip}, [that is] the name of the beast or the number of his name.

[Chrisj CMA]

Is it the mark of the beast. Eerily similar to say the least.

My answer will be No!  Why?  Don't matter why, it's just no.

[Robert]

Rev 13:16  He required everyone—small and great, rich and poor, free and slave—to be given a mark on the right hand or on the forehead.
Rev 13:17  And no one could buy or sell anything without that mark, which was either the name of the beast or the number representing his name. 

Now I'm not so sure the chip is the mark but the plan is that without it you wont be able to buy or sell, So its pretty close. We are moving to a cashless society willingly and that is exactly one of the steps to ushering in this idea.



prophecy: the foretelling or prediction of what is to come.
something that is declared by a prophet, especially a divinely inspired prediction, instruction, or exhortation.

http://www.reasons.org/articles/articles/fulfilled-prophecy-evidence-for-the-reliability-of-the-bible

Unique among all books ever written, the Bible accurately foretells specific events-in detail-many years, sometimes centuries, before they occur. Approximately 2,500 prophecies appear in the pages of the Bible, about 2,000 of which already have been fulfilled to the letter—no errors.
 
One awesome example Israel:

 The prophet Moses foretold (with some additions by Jeremiah and Jesus) that the ancient Jewish nation would be conquered twice and that the people would be carried off as slaves each time, first by the Babylonians (for a period of 70 years), and then by a fourth world kingdom (which we know as Rome). The second conqueror, Moses said, would take the Jews captive to Egypt in ships, selling them or giving them away as slaves to all parts of the world. Both of these predictions were fulfilled to the letter, the first in 607 BC and the second in AD 70. God's spokesmen said, further, that the Jews would remain scattered throughout the entire world for many generations, but without becoming assimilated by the peoples or of other nations, and that the Jews would one day return to the land of Palestine to re-establish for a second time their nation (Deuteronomy 29; Isaiah 11:11-13; Jeremiah 25:11; Hosea 3:4-5 and Luke 21:23-24).

In 1948 Israel became its own nation again amid much wrangling and objection.

This prophetic statement sweeps across 3,500 years of history to its complete fulfillment—in our lifetime.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 10 to the 20th power.)

There have been only 3 nations in history that have come back to their own land. But only one nation that kept its own language instead of the language of their conquerors , Israel.

 Its a fascinating study as to why God split up Israel and a testimony to the faithfulness of God of to why He returned Israel to their own land.
 Remember Jesus really came for the lost house of Israel, we, the grafted in branch has much to be thankful for.  

Another sign of the times is they found the temple and its not under the Dome, they are doing excavations now since they have positively found the location of the temple. As soon as they find the corner stone, sacrifices and the building of the new temple will be started. So that means with the red heifer and the other elements needed including the anointing oil that was made from a special plant that only grew 2000 years ago and not found since, has showed up again. So they can make the anointing oil again. There is so much more and its amazing whats happening in our times. We are seeing the fulfillment of scripture as if we where watching a movie. A book written 2000 years ago predicted with accuracy these times. If you had said a few years ago there would be a new world order you would have been given a tin hat, today its an accepted fact.

 While Jesus was very specific on, no one knows the time of the end except the Father, not even Jesus, He was also clear that we should know the seasons. Just as we look from summer to fall and feel that first bit of fresh air and the change in the air, so we are to know the season we are in. The more you study the word of God with history in mind you will be amazed at the things it reveals. It will bolster your faith and you realize how much is happening.

[Big Bear]

This is so far off topic that it is ridiculous.  The company offered this VOLUNTARILY to employees.  There was no requirement to get chipped.  It is as if none of you read the whole article. Maybe since I had read previous articles about this I knew what was going on.

Did I miss something here or is it the beginning of group think without self awareness?  Part of me feels like I am over-reacting but on the other hand, it seems like others are.

Yes I do go to church, but not as often as I should. 

I would fight this requirement just as you if it were a requirement.

In the end the company received a huge amount of free publicity for its offer and had quite a few employees volunteer to use the technology so the company could test how well it works for free, not counting implantation costs.

Peace on!

[Robert]

Below are only some of the thoughts and plans for the rfid chip, some date back to 2013 and obviously were planed before that. So one company, voluntarily, for how long is my question. I dont think any of what was said was off, I think its lack of vision to see the future that is planed for this technology.

Adam Savage and "The RFID Censorship Question"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs4I-hURT7A

No RFID Chip No Work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwJl09IyJZI

Obama care was initially signed with the idea of a chip for everyone, but over objections this was taken out.

Texas schools punish students who refuse to be tracked with wearable microchips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCEtaEODg28

2017-TARGET DATE FOR MICROCHIP IMPLANT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-9kwEe5LhI

Finally why you will accept the chip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy1_1LxNwdE

[scooperhsd]

Hell, they all ready know what we like, what we buy and where we are right now, because we all carry a cell phone.  Its just a matter of time and they will put something in your body that will enable you to communicated with anyone by thinking it.

Nope, no "All" hereabouts and nope, I don't and won't own one of those "devil machines".

Note: If South Korea gets obliterated, the LCD display market will be destroyed as they produce approximately 40% of the world's LCD's for televisions and other electronic devices; as well as 17% of the world's semi-conductors used in smart phones. It takes two years to build a semi-conductor factroy from scratch.  This is from an analysis by Capital Economics Ltd. and published today by Bloomberg.
End result of war in Korea is that nobody finds nobody.

Not a hijack, just some hijinks.
Out.

This post highlights at least one big downside to such a war - don't plan on replacing any of your personal electronics for a while if it comes to pass - what you have is what you will be using for a few years (at least). At least at something close to current prices.

[Serk]

This is so far off topic that it is ridiculous.  The company offered this VOLUNTARILY to employees.  There was no requirement to get chipped.  It is as if none of you read the whole article. Maybe since I had read previous articles about this I knew what was going on.

I'd read it previously and was aware it's voluntary...

...for now...

The catch is most things like this start being voluntary and slowly over time evolve into being expected, then mandatory. Once the camel gets his nose under the tent it's hard to keep the rest of him out...

[Oss]

Chips in the general population?  
that is one thing and I dont like it one bit

Chips in our soldiers?  I dont know as I dont have a secret clearance but I would imagine being able to find your fellow soldiers in time of war, behind enemy lines is a good thing. Being able to rescue a pow etc

Is this already being done?

Its hard to get off the grid once you are on it.  We cant all ONLY use the rotary dial phones or cb radios

And NK doesnt have to hit us or South Korea to cause havoc
They only have to get the warhead high and detonate it to do unimaginable damage and they also have subs

In my perfect scenario they accidentally nuke Peking. problem solved  North Korea will be speaking Chinese the next day

[Gryphon Rider]

Another sign of the times is they found the temple and its not under the Dome, they are doing excavations now since they have positively found the location of the temple. As soon as they find the corner stone, sacrifices and the building of the new temple will be started. So that means with the red heifer and the other elements needed including the anointing oil that was made from a special plant that only grew 2000 years ago and not found since, has showed up again. So they can make the anointing oil again. There is so much more and its amazing whats happening in our times. We are seeing the fulfillment of scripture as if we where watching a movie. A book written 2000 years ago predicted with accuracy these times. If you had said a few years ago there would be a new world order you would have been given a tin hat, today its an accepted fact.

Do you have a source for this news about the excavation of the temple site?

[Serk]

Do you have a source for this news about the excavation of the temple site?

Is this the temple we're talking about?

http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/archaeology/israel-claims-first-temple-relic-find/news-story/699428fdc3df06caf04b49a27c6429be

[Robert]

Do you have a source for this news about the excavation of the temple site?

 The Israel Antiquities Authority in Jerusalem’s City of David are very sparse in letting information out on this dig.
But its going under current structures and the story of how the dig started is amazing, the timing and findings that have come about are also amazing.

Givati Parking Lot dig
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Givati_Parking_Lot_dig

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Culture/Archaeological-find-in-Jerusalems-City-of-David-may-answer-100-year-old-mystery-431895

Giv'ati car park, an area south of the Dung gate and adjacent to the entrance of the City of David archaeological park
http://www.biblewalks.com/Sites/Givati.html

[Gryphon Rider]

Do you have a source for this news about the excavation of the temple site?

 The Israel Antiquities Authority in Jerusalem’s City of David are very sparse in letting information out on this dig.
But its going under current structures and the story of how the dig started is amazing, the timing and findings that have come about are also amazing.

Givati Parking Lot dig
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Givati_Parking_Lot_dig

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Culture/Archaeological-find-in-Jerusalems-City-of-David-may-answer-100-year-old-mystery-431895

Giv'ati car park, an area south of the Dung gate and adjacent to the entrance of the City of David archaeological park
http://www.biblewalks.com/Sites/Givati.html

But Robert, you said, "they found the temple and its not under the Dome, they are doing excavations now since they have positively found the location of the temple."  Do you have an actual news report or published paper or anything to support your claim?  You must be making this statement based on something, right?

[Robert]

But Robert, you said, "they found the temple and its not under the Dome, they are doing excavations now since they have positively found the location of the temple."  Do you have an actual news report or published paper or anything to support your claim?  You must be making this statement based on something, right?

I don't know how much history as far as the bible you know and how much of the bible you know but if you are looking for a news headline that says, "temple found" you wont find it. Even if they start the new temple I dont know for sure if you would hear the temple corner stone has been found. I gave you plenty of links and information, but the problem may be, you don't know enough about what the articles are saying or know scripture enough to understand what is said. It takes knowing time and locations and what happened with the temple and Jewish society to understand.  As with the red heifer and the oil I'm pretty sure you did not see any headlines for that either. But will read alot of information about a red heifer but not until you do some research will you see that they actually have a red heifer.  I am fortunate to know people that have done digs in Israel, that stay in touch with those who do digs and hear of the findings and have the significance revealed to me. Its really fascinating to hear about and maybe you could research this a bit more if you need more information.

[Gryphon Rider]

But Robert, you said, "they found the temple and its not under the Dome, they are doing excavations now since they have positively found the location of the temple."  Do you have an actual news report or published paper or anything to support your claim?  You must be making this statement based on something, right?

I don't know how much history as far as the bible you know and how much of the bible you know but if you are looking for a news headline that says, "temple found" you wont find it. Even if they start the new temple I dont know for sure if you would hear the temple corner stone has been found. I gave you plenty of links and information, but the problem may be, you don't know enough about what the articles are saying or know scripture enough to understand what is said. It takes knowing time and locations and what happened with the temple and Jewish society to understand. ... I am fortunate to know people that have done digs in Israel, that stay in touch with those who do digs and hear of the findings and have the significance revealed to me. Its really fascinating to hear about and maybe you could research this a bit more if you need more information.

I read (or at least skimmed) the articles you linked to.  None of them says anything about finding the location of the first temple.  It was basically a wild goose chase with respect to your claims.

Your response is basically, "You won't find any actual facts to back up my claim, but trust me, I know people who know people who have made some undocumented, unannounced discoveries while digging around in Jerusalem.  In other words, I don't have an answer to give you, but go ahead and do a bunch of research to prove my claim is true."

Robert, you made the statement.  You back it up with facts.

[The emperor has no clothes]

As a neophyte to understanding religion, there are a handful of people that I trust to give me solid info about it. Most of them are members here. There are another handful that I can not trust. Most are members here.

[98valk]

As a neophyte to understanding religion, there are a handful of people that I trust to give me solid info about it. Most of them are members here. There are another handful that I can not trust. Most are members here.

is the glass half empty or half full for ya?

[Mr Whiskey]

Your response is basically, "You won't find any actual facts to back up my claim, but trust me, I know people who know people who have made some undocumented, unannounced discoveries while digging around in Jerusalem.  In other words, I don't have an answer to give you, but go ahead and do a bunch of research to prove my claim is true."

Robert, you made the statement.  You back it up with facts.

[Robert]

The Dead Sea Scrolls took 40 to 60 years from the time found till they were revealed to the public and there is so much more happening in the digs that is not being revealed. If the unstated purpose is to find the cornerstone of the temple so that a new one can be constructed why would this be revealed with the opposition that would come against it. The dome was built knowing the promises of the Bible and just like the cemetery on the outside of the East Gate was done to stop Jesus return.                                                                                    So you might say the Muslims believe in Jesus more than most Christians.

The temple is really irrelevant also to us as a Christians and its rebuilding only serves as a time line to the end of times. Its a sign, thats it.
To Christians Jesus is the fulfillment of Gods promises not the temple.

Rabbis Urge Trump, Putin to Help Rebuild Temple in Jerusalem
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/30506/Default.aspx


I have a question to you Gryphon, how do you think the temple is going to be rebuilt? What is the real reason you need to have exact information and dont believe my statements? How could you understand all that was being said in the articles quoted, when it has taken me sometime to understand all that is happening in predictions in the bible?

[Gryphon Rider]

I'll give you straight answers to your questions, assuming their sincerity.

I have a question to you Gryphon, how do you think the temple is going to be rebuilt?

I don't have a strong opinion about this other than it seems that there will be a third temple, along with newly restablished sacrifices, established as part of the setting for the Great Tribulation, and that the Antichrist will occupy it (Rev. 11:1-2, 2 Thess. 2:3-4, Dan. 9:27, Matt. 24:15).  I don't know how it will happen, or whether it will be a tent or a permanent structure. I don't know whether the temple will be constructed prior to the Great Tribulation or during the first half of it.

What is the real reason you need to have exact information and dont believe my statements?

Like many people, especially Christians, I am fascinated by what the Bible has to say about the times leading up to the end of the current world order (with man occupying the visible seats of political power, rather than God, Himself).  I pay attention when things happen that seem to indicate fulfillment or impending fulfillment of Biblical prophecy.

Your statement, "Another sign of the times is they found the temple and its not under the Dome, they are doing excavations now since they have positively found the location of the temple. As soon as they find the corner stone, sacrifices and the building of the new temple will be started", grabbed my attention.  I had not heard that evidence of the first temple had been found beyond the Dome, so I wanted more information, and asked for it, assuming you had a source of this information that you could point me to.  After all, you did call it a "sign of the times", and signs of the times are typically things that anyone with open eyes can see; I wanted to see it.  I wanted to read about it.  I wanted to know more about it.

In response, in reply 28, you provided me with three links to information about finding possible sites of the palace of Queen Helena of Adiabene, and the Selecucid fortress known as the Acra.  None of them mentioned finding evidence of the temple.  That's when I began to grow suspicious of your statement, and thought, why is Robert giving me this stuff as a reply?  Is he trying to use it as a smokescreen to prevent those who can't be bothered to follow the links from noticing he hasn't a shred of evidence to back his claim?  So I gave you another chance, in reply #29, asking for anything to back your claim.

Instead of answering my question directly, you started your reply (#30) by questioning my knowledge of Biblical history and general Bible knowledge, then saying I don't have enough understanding of scripture to understand the articles.  This is what is known as an ad hominem attack.  I'll admit I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of the history of Jerusalem and her occupiers from the time of Nebuchadnezzer II's destruction of the first temple through to the construction of the Dome of the Rock in 688, but my reading comprehension is good enough to understand the linked articles, and to understand what they don't do: support your statement.

So, while I didn't initially have any reason to doubt your statement, and I concede that time and information revealed in the future may prove your statement to be true, your red-herring responses cause me to be suspicious.  And really, trusting your statement requires me to not only trust you, but also the two other unnamed people in the chain that brought your information to you.  So, assuming that I believe you to be completely honest, I have to have confidence in your ability to correctly determine the honesty of the person who told you, and that person's ability to determine the honesty of the person who told him, and everyone's ability to interpret, determine the implications of, and correctly pass on, the findings in Jerusalem's dirt and rock.

How could you understand all that was being said in the articles quoted, when it has taken me sometime to understand all that is happening in predictions in the bible?

You make several assumptions with your question:
1.  It requires an extensive knowledge of Biblical prophecy to understand the articles.  Any intelligent person reading the articles knows that's nonsense.  Perhaps one needs to know all the issues that are connected but not addressed in the articles to apply some of the information contained in the articles to the question of the first temple's location.  Or perhaps none of it is directly relevant.  The article Serk linked to has way more to say about the first temple, and all that the evidence described therein really proves is that the site was occupied by people at the right time, and that some olive pits were burned at about the right time that the Bible says that the temple was burned by the Babylonians.
2.  My understanding of the Bible is inferior to yours.  Maybe that's true in some things, but then again, maybe not.  We haven't been tested against a common measure.
3.  You understand all Biblical predictions.  That certainly can't be proven until you a) document all your understanding, and b) all predicted events come to pass.

************************************
So, why do I harp on you about this?  Because truth matters.  And more than that, because you claim to represent the Way, the Truth, and the Life, what you say reflects on how people perceive Him.  When you make statements about things that are signs of the times, connected to the Truth of Scripture, then can't back them up, people look askance at everything you have to say about the claims of scripture.  People's unregenerate hearts already give them enough reasons to reject Truth.  Why give them another?

[Robert]

Thanks for you response it made a few things clearer.

I would say that any dig in Israel is not nonsense this also goes along with the information I gave because many artifacts and verification of history and the bible has come forward. If the answer is a smoke screen how do you know without doing the research yourself?

 It takes more space or time than I am willing to put forward on this matter to prove myself correct to you hence the links.

You are not a defender of truth or faith to discount this information if not known to be factual or question a small point that most Christians dont even know about. What is seen is one christian questioning another in public not in the love the bible talks about, the world loves confusion and fighting.

I am privy to information that most dont have access to and I find amazing that they have actually found Davids residence and how it came about. David being a central figure in the Old Testament  securing all the land and building materials for the temple and Solomon his son the builder of the temple. They are not absolutely sure of the temples location that is why these digs provide an interesting twist. What if this actually is the location of the temple? The article about Davids palace was written in 06 and republished in 17. 

I gave you links to the Temple society and some information which as you say was also nonsense along with other information that needs to be read to understand and it needs a historical perspective. You have to be interested in this stuff because some of it is long and tedious and to connect the dots sometimes is boring.

Good article on the temple and they may not know the exact location
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.606550

The location of this dig, the fact that they do not know exactly the location of the original temple or where the cornerstone is, the idea of how this was found below a parking lot in close proximity to the Dome of the Rock and its Davids palace, all make for an interesting read and food for thought.

Even the bible to those who dont read it seems nonsense till there is understanding and enlightenment that God gives.

or

Unless you look at Jesus and Paul as Jews and understand their perspective on scripture and teachings then you loose some understanding.

So I would say really spend some time in these articles that I gave you if you find something different then tell me. I would be interested to hear and it makes for interesting discussions.

[The emperor has no clothes]

You are privy to info we don't have ? Sounds rather sanctimonious to me.  ???

[Robert]

You are privy to info we don't have ? Sounds rather sanctimonious to me.  ???

Yup it would to you, but its just a statement of fact.