news a term i use lightly

[old2soon]

abc 5.30 p m national news. david muir reporting. all these folks gittin pissed of about daca ending. According to what I read it was temporary when passed/implemented in 2012. So they've had what-5 years to git legal and git papers and they haven't and now their pissed cuz they sat on their hands? And now it's Trump's fault cuz they didn't apply for citizenship?   

The next "news story" really left me scratchin my gourd. putin wants President Trump to dial down the rhetoric directed at north korea-specifically the turd with the bad haircut that is the dictator there. china asked President Trump-well more like Demanded-the same thing bout a month month and a half ago-dial down the rhetoric. Did either one of those "leaders" chinese or russian ask the turd with the bad haircut to quit testin his nukes or to quit mentioning gift wrapped presents for the U S of A? yeah-thought not. And when the turd mentioned-gift wrapped presents for U S of A-is there ANY doubt in Anyones mind WHAT Zackly the little turd meant? Personally do NOT Want a war BUT if that's what it comes to-a dusty cinder where north korea USED to be might be how this ends. the little turd with the bad haircut stands down at any time and him and his country continue to live-BUT-Always a BUT-he STAYS stood down. Simple really. RIDE SAFE.

[NewValker]

You ain't trying to figgur the world out now are ya?
Craig

[The emperor has no clothes]

abc 5.30 p m national news. david muir reporting. all these folks gittin pissed of about daca ending. According to what I read it was temporary when passed/implemented in 2012. So they've had what-5 years to git legal and git papers and they haven't and now their pissed cuz they sat on their hands? And now it's Trump's fault cuz they didn't apply for citizenship?   

The next "news story" really left me scratchin my gourd. putin wants President Trump to dial down the rhetoric directed at north korea-specifically the turd with the bad haircut that is the dictator there. china asked President Trump-well more like Demanded-the same thing bout a month month and a half ago-dial down the rhetoric. Did either one of those "leaders" chinese or russian ask the turd with the bad haircut to quit testin his nukes or to quit mentioning gift wrapped presents for the U S of A? yeah-thought not. And when the turd mentioned-gift wrapped presents for U S of A-is there ANY doubt in Anyones mind WHAT Zackly the little turd meant? Personally do NOT Want a war BUT if that's what it comes to-a dusty cinder where north korea USED to be might be how this ends. the little turd with the bad haircut stands down at any time and him and his country continue to live-BUT-Always a BUT-he STAYS stood down. Simple really. RIDE SAFE.

They weren't allowed to get citizenship. The DACA act basically just kept any kids that were brought here illegally from being deported. It had no provisions for them becoming legal. I don't see any easy solution for them. If we take someone that has grown up here most of their life and deport them to a place they don't know and is corrupt in its system, I expect many will be harmed or killed. If we keep them here as is, it says we are turning a blind eye to our laws. It is a sad situation.

[Hook#3287]

My understanding is the President has put in the laps of the lawmakers, gives 6 months to figure it out.

[The emperor has no clothes]

My understanding is the President has put in the laps of the lawmakers, gives 6 months to figure it out.

He has. Hopefully they will. Their track record shows otherwise though unfortunately.

[art]

If they want to stay here why don't they apply for citizenship? Some have been here for plenty of years,enough to have gone to collage. N.Korea, If they launch missiles over Japan why do we have to strike? let Japan strike. They should try to protect themselves. It's always let the USA do it for us. I say BS. They have a duty to protect their own people.

[ridingron]

Something to do with WWII peace treaty, I think. One of the reason their industries grew after the war. They weren't spending money on the military. The industries were also rebuilt with current state-of-the-art equipment.

[Patrick]

My understanding is the President has put in the laps of the lawmakers, gives 6 months to figure it out.

Thats right. Obama put it to congress which did nothing. He then temporally enacted it  giving congress another chance at it in which they again did nothing. Now our new President is giving it back to who it belongs to, congress once again. This is all our President can/could do.

[Oss]

Both the Democrats and Republicans in Congress should be ashamed of themselves and should pass SOMETHING to resolve the situation

Here in Ossining a young man was taken from home and sent for deportation process right the day before his senior prom at the High School.  This is plain and simple STUPID,

Meathead I agree with you (heavenly choir singing) that there are times and reasons why kids should not be deported. We are taking many who are or are on way to being productive members of society and making them something bitter and anti american and it is just plain dumbass policy. 

Now a criminal is different and gloves should come off if that is the case but so many if not most are law abiding people who could be serving in the military or some other path to citizenship

My plan is to vote against all incumbents (again) next year

[The emperor has no clothes]

Both the Democrats and Republicans in Congress should be ashamed of themselves and should pass SOMETHING to resolve the situation

Here in Ossining a young man was taken from home and sent for deportation process right the day before his senior prom at the High School.  This is plain and simple STUPID,

Meathead I agree with you (heavenly choir singing) that there are times and reasons why kids should not be deported. We are taking many who are or are on way to being productive members of society and making them something bitter and anti american and it is just plain dumbass policy. 

Now a criminal is different and gloves should come off if that is the case but so many if not most are law abiding people who could be serving in the military or some other path to citizenship

My plan is to vote against all incumbents (again) next year

Just to be clear. Most of them are not kids any longer. They are now young adults that have lived here most of their life. The biggest problem I see is, how do we morally send them off to countries they don't know and are filled with corrupt drug gangs, corrupt law enforcement, and heavy violence ? It seems a lot of them would be raped, abused, killed.
 If there was ever a time for a thoughtful, comprehensive immigration reform it is now. It just seems there are too many purists to let that happen. I hope I'm wrong.

[Hook#3287]

Rob, you're completely right, but the fact of the matter is they are here illegally.

The media, the protesters, the anti trump group and the idiot congressman themselves, should  concentrate their efforts to pass the correct laws to help these individuals, instead of leaving them in limbo.

President Trump is doing his job, as well as cleaning up the previous administration's leftovers.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Rob, you're completely right, but the fact of the matter is they are here illegally.

The media, the protesters, the anti trump group and the idiot congressman themselves, should  concentrate their efforts to pass the correct laws to help these individuals, instead of leaving them in limbo.

President Trump is doing his job, as well as cleaning up the previous administration's leftovers.

Bill, I agree. They should do their job as Congressmen and Senators. But, recent history has shown they either won't or can't. That's mostly why Obama stepped in with his EO on the matter. There seem to be so many entrenched camps that nothing gets done on even matters most can agree on.

[Moonshot_1]

Both the Democrats and Republicans in Congress should be ashamed of themselves and should pass SOMETHING to resolve the situation

Here in Ossining a young man was taken from home and sent for deportation process right the day before his senior prom at the High School.  This is plain and simple STUPID,

Meathead I agree with you (heavenly choir singing) that there are times and reasons why kids should not be deported. We are taking many who are or are on way to being productive members of society and making them something bitter and anti american and it is just plain dumbass policy. 

Now a criminal is different and gloves should come off if that is the case but so many if not most are law abiding people who could be serving in the military or some other path to citizenship

My plan is to vote against all incumbents (again) next year

Just to be clear. Most of them are not kids any longer. They are now young adults that have lived here most of their life. The biggest problem I see is, how do we morally send them off to countries they don't know and are filled with corrupt drug gangs, corrupt law enforcement, and heavy violence ? It seems a lot of them would be raped, abused, killed.
 If there was ever a time for a thoughtful, comprehensive immigration reform it is now. It just seems there are too many purists to let that happen. I hope I'm wrong.

Been thinking of an analogy and it may not be perfect but...

A 5 year old has a Dad that steals a car. 65 Ford Mustang. The car becomes a family treasure. 25 years later the kid inherits the car. He enters it into a classic car show and wins! Then it is discovered that the car was stolen 25 years ago. Should the kid get to keep the car and the prize?

I'd say no. The original owner should get the car back and the prize to go to the 2nd place guy who legally owns his car.

[old2soon]

Those entrenched political types-I M H O-ARE most of the problem and do not appear to be going away anytime soon. Any time term limits are discussed you see many eyes glaze over-think deer in headlights. As to our-what current??-problems as others have stated there is NOT what could be termed an easy solution. da prez and I were breezin bout "stuff" and he thought a good solution Might be payin those on capitol hill by the hour at a smidge above minimum wage. If I had THAT many people wurkin fer me doing That Little and NOT showing ANY improvement they'd have been outside lookin in a long time ago.     As to n k. President Trump as I understand it has sent some new anti missile technology to South Korea and-memory here-other allies closer to n k. Thinkin the little turd with the bad haircut-ltbc-has Maybe seen the same or similar movies on nuclear holocaust as a lot of us have seen. I find it hard to digest that the ltbc WANTS a nuclear war. To what end? Is a Really Serious game of brinkmanship being played out here? IF he is in Fact having his strings pulled-think puppet-is the devil behind this? Or is china behind this as has been mentioned before? So many questions. So few ready GOOD answers. RIDE SAFE.

[scooperhsd]

He's GOT to know that we have enough to "create the straits of Korea and the island of Korea" if it comes down to that.

Seems like a bunch of youtube people are creating "news" on what has happened/what they want to happen.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Both the Democrats and Republicans in Congress should be ashamed of themselves and should pass SOMETHING to resolve the situation

Here in Ossining a young man was taken from home and sent for deportation process right the day before his senior prom at the High School.  This is plain and simple STUPID,

Meathead I agree with you (heavenly choir singing) that there are times and reasons why kids should not be deported. We are taking many who are or are on way to being productive members of society and making them something bitter and anti american and it is just plain dumbass policy. 

Now a criminal is different and gloves should come off if that is the case but so many if not most are law abiding people who could be serving in the military or some other path to citizenship

My plan is to vote against all incumbents (again) next year

Just to be clear. Most of them are not kids any longer. They are now young adults that have lived here most of their life. The biggest problem I see is, how do we morally send them off to countries they don't know and are filled with corrupt drug gangs, corrupt law enforcement, and heavy violence ? It seems a lot of them would be raped, abused, killed.
 If there was ever a time for a thoughtful, comprehensive immigration reform it is now. It just seems there are too many purists to let that happen. I hope I'm wrong.

Been thinking of an analogy and it may not be perfect but...

A 5 year old has a Dad that steals a car. 65 Ford Mustang. The car becomes a family treasure. 25 years later the kid inherits the car. He enters it into a classic car show and wins! Then it is discovered that the car was stolen 25 years ago. Should the kid get to keep the car and the prize?

I'd say no. The original owner should get the car back and the prize to go to the 2nd place guy who legally owns his car.

You are right, it wasn't perfect. When the kid inherited it, he was an adult with free will taking possession of stolen property. When a 5 year old was brought here illegally by his Dad, he had no choice in the matter.

[Serk]

Both the Democrats and Republicans in Congress should be ashamed of themselves and should pass SOMETHING to resolve the situation

Here in Ossining a young man was taken from home and sent for deportation process right the day before his senior prom at the High School.  This is plain and simple STUPID,

Meathead I agree with you (heavenly choir singing) that there are times and reasons why kids should not be deported. We are taking many who are or are on way to being productive members of society and making them something bitter and anti american and it is just plain dumbass policy. 

Now a criminal is different and gloves should come off if that is the case but so many if not most are law abiding people who could be serving in the military or some other path to citizenship

My plan is to vote against all incumbents (again) next year

Just to be clear. Most of them are not kids any longer. They are now young adults that have lived here most of their life. The biggest problem I see is, how do we morally send them off to countries they don't know and are filled with corrupt drug gangs, corrupt law enforcement, and heavy violence ? It seems a lot of them would be raped, abused, killed.
 If there was ever a time for a thoughtful, comprehensive immigration reform it is now. It just seems there are too many purists to let that happen. I hope I'm wrong.

Been thinking of an analogy and it may not be perfect but...

A 5 year old has a Dad that steals a car. 65 Ford Mustang. The car becomes a family treasure. 25 years later the kid inherits the car. He enters it into a classic car show and wins! Then it is discovered that the car was stolen 25 years ago. Should the kid get to keep the car and the prize?

I'd say no. The original owner should get the car back and the prize to go to the 2nd place guy who legally owns his car.

You are right, it wasn't perfect. When the kid inherited it, he was an adult with free will taking possession of stolen property. When a 5 year old was brought here illegally by his Dad, he had no choice in the matter.

Okay, try this one on for size...

A man with a young child break into a vacation house that no one is currently occupying.
They stay there for years, the owners don't go there for a while.

The young child grows up and becomes an adult. His father "gives" him the house.

Eventually the rightful owners check on the house and find these other people living in their house.

Should they not be allowed to evict the criminals that are stealing their property?

[Jess from VA]

Not a bad example, except for look into Adverse Possession (for real estate).

And just for craps and giggles, TX has the most complex and arcane adverse possession laws in the country.  Add in riparian water rights, and mineral rights, and you have a full time job.

http://www.lonestarlandlaw.com/Adverse.html

[Serk]

Not a bad example, except for look into Adverse Possession (for real estate).

And just for craps and giggles, TX has the most complex and arcane adverse possession laws in the country.  Add in riparian water rights, and mineral rights, and you have a full time job.

http://www.lonestarlandlaw.com/Adverse.html

A certain quote from William Shakespeare, Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene 2 comes to mind.

But yeah it gets kinda ridiculous. After the tornado decimated our little town a few years back we had several instances of squatters moving into abandoned houses and it was a bear of a time (legally) getting them out.
We came real close to forming an old fashioned lynch mob to get these scum out of people's houses.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Both the Democrats and Republicans in Congress should be ashamed of themselves and should pass SOMETHING to resolve the situation

Here in Ossining a young man was taken from home and sent for deportation process right the day before his senior prom at the High School.  This is plain and simple STUPID,

Meathead I agree with you (heavenly choir singing) that there are times and reasons why kids should not be deported. We are taking many who are or are on way to being productive members of society and making them something bitter and anti american and it is just plain dumbass policy. 

Now a criminal is different and gloves should come off if that is the case but so many if not most are law abiding people who could be serving in the military or some other path to citizenship

My plan is to vote against all incumbents (again) next year

Just to be clear. Most of them are not kids any longer. They are now young adults that have lived here most of their life. The biggest problem I see is, how do we morally send them off to countries they don't know and are filled with corrupt drug gangs, corrupt law enforcement, and heavy violence ? It seems a lot of them would be raped, abused, killed.
 If there was ever a time for a thoughtful, comprehensive immigration reform it is now. It just seems there are too many purists to let that happen. I hope I'm wrong.

Been thinking of an analogy and it may not be perfect but...

A 5 year old has a Dad that steals a car. 65 Ford Mustang. The car becomes a family treasure. 25 years later the kid inherits the car. He enters it into a classic car show and wins! Then it is discovered that the car was stolen 25 years ago. Should the kid get to keep the car and the prize?

I'd say no. The original owner should get the car back and the prize to go to the 2nd place guy who legally owns his car.

You are right, it wasn't perfect. When the kid inherited it, he was an adult with free will taking possession of stolen property. When a 5 year old was brought here illegally by his Dad, he had no choice in the matter.

Okay, try this one on for size...

A man with a young child break into a vacation house that no one is currently occupying.
They stay there for years, the owners don't go there for a while.

The young child grows up and becomes an adult. His father "gives" him the house.

Eventually the rightful owners check on the house and find these other people living in their house.

Should they not be allowed to evict the criminals that are stealing their property?

Better. And yes, we have the right to deport these "DACA" kids. Is that the solution you propose ?

[Serk]

Better. And yes, we have the right to deport these "DACA" kids. Is that the solution you propose ?

With exception for those who have served honorably (Or are currently serving) in the military, yes.

And "kids" is a very misleading term. The average age for these DACA "kids" is 25-26.

The 1986 amnesty bill was sold as a "Final" amnesty to clean up and no more would be granted.

Time to hold to that promise.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Better. And yes, we have the right to deport these "DACA" kids. Is that the solution you propose ?

With exception for those who have served honorably (Or are currently serving) in the military, yes.

And "kids" is a very misleading term. The average age for these DACA "kids" is 25-26.

The 1986 amnesty bill was sold as a "Final" amnesty to clean up and no more would be granted.

Time to hold to that promise.

As I said earlier, most are young adults now. When they were brought here illegally they were kids. No moral reservations about sending a 20 year old young lady to Drug Lords and corrupt Police in Mexico and Honduras ?

[Serk]

No moral reservations about sending a 20 year old young lady to Drug Lords and corrupt Police in Mexico and Honduras ?

When they've had a minimum of half a DECADE to get legal or make other arrangements?

Nope. No moral reservations at all.

But don't worry, President Trump is already waffling, he's lost his courage to do the right thing and promising to "revisit" the issue in 6 months if congress doesn't act to protect these poor sweet innocent "children."

[The emperor has no clothes]

No moral reservations about sending a 20 year old young lady to Drug Lords and corrupt Police in Mexico and Honduras ?

When they've had a minimum of half a DECADE to get legal or make other arrangements?

Nope. No moral reservations at all.

But don't worry, President Trump is already waffling, he's lost his courage to do the right thing and promising to "revisit" the issue in 6 months if congress doesn't act to protect these poor sweet innocent "children."

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the program. But I thought they didn't have any avenue to become legal ? The way I understood it was they had to move to wherever their parents brought them from and apply from there ?

[Serk]

No moral reservations about sending a 20 year old young lady to Drug Lords and corrupt Police in Mexico and Honduras ?

When they've had a minimum of half a DECADE to get legal or make other arrangements?

Nope. No moral reservations at all.

But don't worry, President Trump is already waffling, he's lost his courage to do the right thing and promising to "revisit" the issue in 6 months if congress doesn't act to protect these poor sweet innocent "children."

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the program. But I thought they didn't have any avenue to become legal ? The way I understood it was they had to move to wherever their parents brought them from and apply from there ?

Okay, then they've had at least half a decade to find a safe spot to move to in their home country and apply from there, and chose to remain criminals here instead.

[Oss]

We can agree that if the government does not make the effort to tell kids what to do it is kinda sad to think they will just happen to know what to do

Yeah show me one child who is not surprised that his or her first paycheck net is smaller than the gross  They just are not adults yet in so many ways

So ok the kid is now 25, lets hear what he or she is supposed to do from where he is and has been, not just go home to god knows where and reapply.  Its dumb and I dont like sharp practice in law or elsewhere

For decades I have been advocating a CCC/teaching/armed services and other paths for kids including these kind of kids as a path to citizenship and or healthcare Its time to put it back in front where it belongs

[baldo]

We can agree that if the government does not make the effort to tell kids what to do it is kinda sad to think they will just happen to know what to do

Yeah show me one child who is not surprised that his or her first paycheck net is smaller than the gross  They just are not adults yet in so many ways

So ok the kid is now 25, lets hear what he or she is supposed to do from where he is and has been, not just go home to god knows where and reapply.  Its dumb and I dont like sharp practice in law or elsewhere

For decades I have been advocating a CCC/teaching/armed services and other paths for kids including these kind of kids as a path to citizenship and or healthcare Its time to put it back in front where it belongs

Well said. It's simply not realistic to think that these kids should have done 'the right thing' with no world experience to draw from.

[The emperor has no clothes]

We can agree that if the government does not make the effort to tell kids what to do it is kinda sad to think they will just happen to know what to do

Yeah show me one child who is not surprised that his or her first paycheck net is smaller than the gross  They just are not adults yet in so many ways

So ok the kid is now 25, lets hear what he or she is supposed to do from where he is and has been, not just go home to god knows where and reapply.  Its dumb and I dont like sharp practice in law or elsewhere

For decades I have been advocating a CCC/teaching/armed services and other paths for kids including these kind of kids as a path to citizenship and or healthcare Its time to put it back in front where it belongs

Well said. It's simply not realistic to think that these kids should have done 'the right thing' with no world experience to draw from.

Plus it's just unrealistic to expect an 18 year old to move to a dangerous foreign country in hopes of one day being able to come back. There is seldom situations in this world that are black and white. This is one where we need to figure out the right shade of gray. In a perfect world we could round up 12 million illegal immigrants ship them off and have them and us live happily ever after. We aren't perfect. It's not going to happen, no matter how pure somebody wants it to be.

[Willow]

The talk of no road to citizenship can't be correct.  I know a young lady of some twenty six or seven years who was brought here as a child.  She's Mexican and her parents entered illegally.  She's a U.S. citizen now.  It may have had something to do with her term in the U.S. Army.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The talk of no road to citizenship can't be correct.  I know a young lady of some twenty six or seven years who was brought here as a child.  She's Mexican and her parents entered illegally.  She's a U.S. citizen now.  It may have had something to do with her term in the U.S. Army.

You got me curious. This is what I found. 

https://citizenpath.com/expedited-citizenship-military-personnel/

[Hooter]

There is always a way if one is willing to take responsibility for themselves. I grow tired of this poor me poor us crap that seems to be so prevelent anymore. Is this another form of entitlement?

[baldo]

There is always a way if one is willing to take responsibility for themselves. I grow tired of this poor me poor us crap that seems to be so prevelent anymore. Is this another form of entitlement?

Only if you choose to make it so......

The world isn't all black and white. I can't understand the thinking that these people in their teens and early twenties 'should do the right thing' and go to a country where they've never been, might not know anyone, might not speak the language and apply fpr citizenship. A process that takes lots of time and money, time they have. Money, probably not so much.

[Serk]

Okay, let's say we grant yet another final wave of amnesty.

Then what?

What about the waves of new sweet innocent children that will be brought across the border by their criminal parents?

Do we give them amnesty too?

Once we grant amnesty to the existing innocent cherubs, do we then allow the rest of their family amnesty as well? Typically once there's an anchor family member entrenched here, the path is well lubricated for mom, dad, aunts, uncles, cousins, haridresserers, second cousin's twice removed, etc.

What about the criminal parents that started this whole mess by illegally bringing them here in the first place?

Since their home countries are too horrible of places to send them home to, does that mean we have to just let everyone there in too? Heck, why not just set up evacuation centers and drain all the populations out of bad countries straight into ours if it's that bad at home?

Do the ones there waiting to come in legally have to wait behind the criminals that are already here? Seems kind of unfair to bump people doing it the correct and legal way behind criminals who skipped past the line doesn't it?

[Hooter]

Baldo, I'm just saying that "anyone" here illegally has 2 choices. Make it right or get out. Parents of these kids also failed in their roll as parents.  They hid their kids while they were and are here illegally thus creating the whole problem. For my money the 2 choices are  for anyone that is here illegally, not just Hispanics.

[old2soon]

Baldo, I'm just saying that "anyone" here illegally has 2 choices. Make it right or get out. Parents of these kids also failed in their roll as parents.  They hid their kids while they were and are here illegally thus creating the whole problem. For my money the 2 choices are  for anyone that is here illegally, not just Hispanics.

            A line if you will has to/needs to/must be drawn and adhered to and have consequences if found on the wrong/other side of said line. I am NOT talking about the former potus's "red lines" that Everyone in the entire World KNEW were false from the start. They-dreamers-had to KNOW this was coming at them and yet Made a conscious CHOICE to instead of finding options to instead stand as a group and cry alligator tears when they should be searching for solutions. After 5 years kinda feel like it's on them. Functional humans make decisions every day. You wanna stand around and cry woe iz me I have zero sympathy. You wanna git offin yer collective keesters and do something you should have started 5 years ago. RIDE SAFE.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Okay, let's say we grant yet another final wave of amnesty.

Then what?

What about the waves of new sweet innocent children that will be brought across the border by their criminal parents?

Do we give them amnesty too?

Once we grant amnesty to the existing innocent cherubs, do we then allow the rest of their family amnesty as well? Typically once there's an anchor family member entrenched here, the path is well lubricated for mom, dad, aunts, uncles, cousins, haridresserers, second cousin's twice removed, etc.

What about the criminal parents that started this whole mess by illegally bringing them here in the first place?

Since their home countries are too horrible of places to send them home to, does that mean we have to just let everyone there in too? Heck, why not just set up evacuation centers and drain all the populations out of bad countries straight into ours if it's that bad at home?

Do the ones there waiting to come in legally have to wait behind the criminals that are already here? Seems kind of unfair to bump people doing it the correct and legal way behind criminals who skipped past the line doesn't it?

Laws could easily be made to address those issues. 

[Serk]

Laws could easily be made to address those issues. 

Like the immigration laws we already have on the books but are ignored whenever it's politically expedient to do so?

[old2soon]

Laws could easily be made to address those issues. 

Like the immigration laws we already have on the books but are ignored whenever it's politically expedient to do so?

               And a term I despise and flies in the face of our Constitution. sanctuary city. RIDE SAFE.

[phideux]

First off, how can these DACA folks even join the military, or legally get a job?? Every job I ever applied for asks somewhere on the application if I am a citizen or legally allowed to work in this country. How do they get a Social Security number. Everyone talks about these DACA kids, where are the illegal parents who brought them here in the first place?? Are they all still here?? Illegally??
My relatives came here legally, my fiance came here legally. I don't know of any other country in the world where you can enter illegally, raise illegal kids, go to school, work, get any kind of benefits or assistance and then get a fast-tracked path to citizenship or amnesty. Most other places will lock you up for awhile then ship you out. If you go back they will lock you up longer and then ship you out. And I guarantee the lock-ups in the rest of the world ain't nothing like the lock-ups here. That's why the other countries don't have this problem.

[MP]

Okay, let's say we grant yet another final wave of amnesty.

Then what?

What about the waves of new sweet innocent children that will be brought across the border by their criminal parents?

Do we give them amnesty too?

Once we grant amnesty to the existing innocent cherubs, do we then allow the rest of their family amnesty as well? Typically once there's an anchor family member entrenched here, the path is well lubricated for mom, dad, aunts, uncles, cousins, haridresserers, second cousin's twice removed, etc.

What about the criminal parents that started this whole mess by illegally bringing them here in the first place?

Since their home countries are too horrible of places to send them home to, does that mean we have to just let everyone there in too? Heck, why not just set up evacuation centers and drain all the populations out of bad countries straight into ours if it's that bad at home?

Do the ones there waiting to come in legally have to wait behind the criminals that are already here? Seems kind of unfair to bump people doing it the correct and legal way behind criminals who skipped past the line doesn't it?

Laws could easily be made to address those issues. 

We already have that. And they are being ignored by daca.