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« on: September 22, 2017, 03:15:09 PM »

And about 100 millions killed because of it:


No mattering the continent, Commies ruined the economy, destroyed individual freedoms and persecuted individuals.

Lets hope that the new generations look at the past and learn that the only legacy of communism is poverty, death and misery.
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2017, 09:08:28 PM »

When you see the figures like that in stark black and white Why would people with a functioning brain even entertain for a split second this abomination of/on humanity? A slow but certain insidious death. I Know some will call this fake news and tell others the little red commies iz good!  Evil Wonder we will see communism die completely in our time? RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2017, 11:28:44 PM »

Amen, brother.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2017, 03:59:03 AM »

When you endorse policies of a elected candidate by voting him into office think about the following knowing the problems of communism. Seems some are confused in knowing what they are really backing.


Founded in 1919, the Communist Party USA has championed the struggles for democracy, labor rights, women’s equality, racial justice and peace for 97 years. The Communist Party has an unparalleled history in the progressive movement of the United States, from the struggle against Jim Crow segregation, the organizing of the industrial unions, from the canneries of California, to the sweatshops of New York City.

Norman Thomas, the six-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President, said the following in a 1944 speech:

    “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened…. I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”

How about now, not 1944?  What does the current Communist Party USA have to say?

Sam Webb, leader of the Communist Party USA(CPUSA) came out to support President Barack Obama’s re-election in 2012. Webb said that with Obama’s victory “that is the ground on which people fight going forward” with “the emergence of a multi-racial, male-female, working-class-based electoral coalition that has the potential to transform America in the years and decades ahead.”

They do not even seem to be trying to hide that the Democratic Party is a tool of the Communist Party USA and Marxists in general.

Have any foreign Communists admitted the Democratic Party is a tool of their objectives?

Russian propaganda machine RIA Novosti stated that Dimitry Peskov, press secretary for Russian President Vladimir Putin, said: “For Russia, Obama’s victory will be beneficial.”
And:

Lieutenant General Ion Mihai Pacepa, defected former top aide to the Romanian Communist regime, said that an alliance between the Democratic Party and the Communist Party is underway in America. Pacepa explained: “The Democratic Party has become dangerously infected with the Marxism virus. I recognize the symptoms because I once lived through them, and I believe it is my obligation as an American citizen to help the conservative movement to prevent any further spread of Marxism in my adopted country.”


So Marxists say the Democratic Party is a Marxist party, what do Democrats say?

Today: According to the Iowa secretary of state’s website, which monitors the votes in real-time, more than 52 percent of Democrats who have cast a vote in the straw poll say they support Sanders. Just over 41 percent said they support Clinton.

In New Hampshire polls show Bernie Sanders in the lead there, so for the first two primaries Sanders is the front-runner for Democratic Party.

http://aun-tv.com/2015/08/did-the-communist-party-usa-take-over-democratic-party-in-1988/

NEW YORK – New Zealander Trevor Loudon has just published an encyclopedic new 689-page volume, “The Enemies Within: Communists, Socialists and Progressives in the U.S. Congress,” to accompany his 668-page 2011 book, “Barack Obama and the Enemies Within.”

Loudon continues naming names in his current volume, “The Enemies Within,” which documents how extensively communists, socialists and progressives have penetrated the U.S. Congress, running on the Democratic Party ticket.

The goal of these radicals in Congress,

 Loudon demonstrates, is the same goal Obama announced when running for president in 2008, to transform the United States from the constitutional republic established by its Founding Fathers into a radical socialist state. The aim is to be achieved through passing extensive social welfare legislation designed to bankrupt a government adhering to concepts of private property and private enterprise.

The Socialist Party of America announced in their October 2009 newsletter that 70 Congressional democrats currently belong to their caucus.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2010/08/american-socialists-release-names-of-70-congressional-democrats-in-their-caucus/
Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)
Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04)
Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08)
Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)
Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)
Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09)
Hon. John Lewis (GA-05)
Hon. John Olver (MA-01)
Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2017, 05:39:03 AM »

My dad said it a lot back then and it is still true today,the only good commie is a dead one!
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2017, 06:01:01 AM »

And it seems a majority of millennials want to move us towards communism. Sad how many painful, deadly lessons have to be repeated every few generations.  Cry


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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2017, 07:59:38 AM »

Communism is the best and most fair governmental system there is.  cooldude

"All work to the best of their ability for the common good, then share equally in the fruits of their labor."

This only has one problem. It does work with humans. Sad

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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2017, 08:13:05 AM »

Communism is the best and most fair governmental system there is.  cooldude

"All work to the best of their ability for the common good, then share equally in the fruits of their labor."

This only has one problem. It does NOTwork with humans. Sad

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Corrected it for you...
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2017, 01:08:29 PM »

Thank you scooperhsd for fixing that for me.

In high school in the early 70s I had to take a class "Americanism vs Communism." That class made it look as if you believed in communism then you where a idiot. I could not believe that a country that could put a man in space would be a country of idiots. So I looked up communism and saw that it was more of a utopia idea. I knew that people that don't work for themselves will not work as hard. They will only do what they need to to get by.

I always thought that that class was a sham. The class would have been a lot better if they would have told the truth about communism and the ideas behind it. Then explain why communism does not work with human nature. Because of human nature it is destined to fail.

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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2017, 01:10:48 PM »

My hero.



Might be about time to start up a US branch of this tour company...  Evil

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2017, 03:13:28 PM »

When personal responsibility and individual incentive are removed from the equation, you end up with socialism.    

Take a look around at those who subscribe to such solutions, they are for the most part, Democrats.

It is, what it is.
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2017, 04:44:18 PM »

When personal responsibility and individual incentive are removed from the equation, you end up with socialism.    

Take a look around at those who subscribe to such solutions, they are for the most part, Democrats.

It is, what it is.
In socialism, the people themselves decide through communes or popularly elected councils on how the economy should work. This makes socialism a liberal system because majority of the people have a say on how the economy should be run. Communism, on the other hand, controls its economy through a single authoritarian party. It is thus characterized as conservative because the economy functions based on the decisions of a few.

The views of socialism and communism also differ in the distribution of wealth produced by the economy. Socialism supports the view that the goods and services produced should be dispensed based on the productivity of an individual. In contrast, communism believes that the wealth should be shared by the masses based on the needs of the individual.



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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2017, 04:50:42 PM »

You seem to be right on top of that.

So, if I'm reading that correctly, the Dems are closer to communism?

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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2017, 05:01:13 PM »

You seem to be right on top of that.

So, if I'm reading that correctly, the Dems are closer to communism?


You seemed to ignore the part where it said communism is a conservative system.  Roll Eyes So, I guess no you didn't read it correctly.  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2017, 05:02:48 PM »







I generally can find a nugget of sanity in any of your posts Mr. Head, but to imply that Socialism and Communism are not only different, but that Communism is a conservative ideology, well... Whatever you've been smoking could you share please?   crazy2

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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2017, 05:06:54 PM »

You seem to be right on top of that.

So, if I'm reading that correctly, the Dems are closer to communism?


You seemed to ignore the part where it said communism is a conservative system.  Roll Eyes So, I guess no you didn't read it correctly.  Wink

Don't bother, Rob.....

It's just so much chum in the water.....
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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2017, 05:06:56 PM »

You seem to be right on top of that.

So, if I'm reading that correctly, the Dems are closer to communism?


You seemed to ignore the part where it said communism is a conservative system.  Roll Eyes So, I guess no you didn't read it correctly.  Wink

Yeah, I read that but, the definition doesn't fit so, I assume you (or whoever you quoted) misspoke.  

But then, I will agree that definitions change over time.
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2017, 05:23:42 PM »

You seem to be right on top of that.

So, if I'm reading that correctly, the Dems are closer to communism?


You seemed to ignore the part where it said communism is a conservative system.  Roll Eyes So, I guess no you didn't read it correctly.  Wink


Yeah, I read that but, the definition doesn't fit so, I assume you (or whoever you quoted) misspoke.  

But then, I will agree that definitions change over time.
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I generally can find a nugget of sanity in any of your posts Mr. Head, but to imply that Socialism and Communism are not only different, but that Communism is a conservative ideology, well... Whatever you've been smoking could you share please?   crazy2



Just as anybody can say socialism and communism are the same (incorrectly). Anybody can say communism is a conservative system (incorrectly) . There are many systems of governance, and most are not so black and white. To say ours is communistic because we have Social Security, Medicare, Food Stamps, etc. would be equally wrong no ? It never ceases to amaze me how many staunch conservatives only see socialism as evil if the benefits are going to someone else. When the benifits are going to them it's a pure as the driven snow system. ( I'm not putting you in that group, just making an observation)

You seem to be right on top of that.

So, if I'm reading that correctly, the Dems are closer to communism?


You seemed to ignore the part where it said communism is a conservative system.  Roll Eyes So, I guess no you didn't read it correctly.  Wink


Don't bother, Rob.....

It's just so much chum in the water.....
You are right Bob. Sometimes I have little control. Conservative sanctimony is hard to swallow.
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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2017, 05:37:31 PM »

I don't know a single Conservative who is superior morally unless you consider earning your keep, being responsible for your own decisions and actions to be morally superior.   If that's the case, then we can agree.
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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2017, 06:16:11 PM »

Socialism and communism have pretty much the same ideological goals.  (On paper)

Communists force you to participate, or kill you, or both.

Socialists want to convince you to participate with logic (their logic), but if that doesn't work they will tax you to death (or you can just kill yourself).

In communism, there are really only a handful of people who make all the rules and decisions.  There may be some kind of sham representative govt, for show, but they have no power, and if they don't vote the way they are supposed to, they get shot or sent to the gulag, or both.

In socialism there is an effort to spread the wealth more fairly (than communism), but socialists really want all the wealth and power in the government, so everybody will have to beg the govt for a subsistence existence.  They get to over 50-60 percent living/surviving on the G, they figure they are in forever.  (and they may be right)

Communists and socialists rarely tell the truth (on anything important).

A lot of socialists really wish they had communism, because after a hundred years, they still haven't sold their logic to a majority of the (US) population, and they're tired of waiting and trying to be nice about it.  

Yackov Smirnov said..... in Russia, we pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us.  That sums it up.
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2017, 06:18:48 PM »

Socialists want to convince you to participate with logic (their logic), but if that doesn't work they will tax you to death (or you can just kill yourself).

And if you refuse to pay those taxes, then they'll kill you....

Socialism is just communism with extra steps... They both end in mass deaths.

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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2017, 06:24:55 PM »

Socialists want to convince you to participate with logic (their logic), but if that doesn't work they will tax you to death (or you can just kill yourself).

And if you refuse to pay those taxes, then they'll kill you....

Socialism is just communism with extra steps... They both end in mass deaths.

Indeed, with communism, you get sodomized dry. 

Socialists want you to enjoy it, so they use lubricant with their sodomy.
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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2017, 06:45:19 PM »

Socialists want to convince you to participate with logic (their logic), but if that doesn't work they will tax you to death (or you can just kill yourself).

And if you refuse to pay those taxes, then they'll kill you....

Socialism is just communism with extra steps... They both end in mass deaths.

Indeed, with communism, you get sodomized dry. 

Socialists want you to enjoy it, so they use lubricant with their sodomy.

Fair enough...

Either way we end up getting forcibly sodomized, and then killed...

So I guess the difference between socialism and communism is if your rapist kisses you first before doing his deed... All the same to me.
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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2017, 10:09:09 PM »

Quote
  So I guess the difference between socialism and communism is if your rapist kisses you first before doing his deed... All the same to me. 

My buddy at works favorite line is something along the lines of "I didn't get kissed but they were holding my hand. I guess the kiss comes the next date." He spends about as much time in the office as he does working.
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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2017, 06:44:22 AM »

It never ceases to amaze me how many staunch conservatives only see socialism as evil if the benefits are going to someone else.

I'm thinking that "evil" position is pretty much dependent on whether or not the recipient has earned that benefit or if it's just another hand out.   I'm amazed that Liberals don't consider that concept.   But, they seem to be more concerned about how to spend other people's hard earned money.   coolsmiley
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2017, 07:38:37 AM »

I don't know a single Conservative who is superior morally ...

You know me, Ron.   Wink
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2017, 08:04:33 AM »

I don't know a single Conservative who is superior morally ...

You know me, Ron.   Wink

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My deepest and sincerest personal regrets.   I've been previously advised that there are exceptions to every rule.   I obviously omitted one of my friends.   I would ask for forgiveness but, as your favorite Pain in the Ass, we both know that just wouldn't be my style.   Wink
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2017, 10:13:41 AM »

I don't know a single Conservative who is superior morally ...

You know me, Ron.   Wink
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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2017, 10:15:32 AM »

I don't know a single Conservative who is superior morally ...

You know me, Ron.   Wink

Carl,
My deepest and sincerest personal regrets.   I've been previously advised that there are exceptions to every rule.   I obviously omitted one of my friends.   I would ask for forgiveness but, as your favorite Pain in the Ass, we both know that just wouldn't be my style.   Wink
Cool I don't recall Willow ever including the term favorite in his description.
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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2017, 10:26:57 AM »

I don't know a single Conservative who is superior morally ...

You know me, Ron.   Wink

Carl,
My deepest and sincerest personal regrets.   I've been previously advised that there are exceptions to every rule.   I obviously omitted one of my friends.   I would ask for forgiveness but, as your favorite Pain in the Ass, we both know that just wouldn't be my style.   Wink
Cool I don't recall Willow ever including the term favorite in his description.

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You are not privy to all discussions.   You are correct though.   I should not have included "favorite" in my response.   I'm sure Willow has other PITAs who's feelings could be hurt when they learn the "bad" news.   
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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2017, 10:30:56 AM »

I don't know a single Conservative who is superior morally ...

You know me, Ron.   Wink

Carl,
My deepest and sincerest personal regrets.   I've been previously advised that there are exceptions to every rule.   I obviously omitted one of my friends.   I would ask for forgiveness but, as your favorite Pain in the Ass, we both know that just wouldn't be my style.   Wink
Cool I don't recall Willow ever including the term favorite in his description.

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You are not privy to all discussions.   You are correct though.   I should not have included "favorite" in my response.   I'm sure Willow has other PITAs who's feelings could be hurt when they learn the "bad" news.   
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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2017, 11:31:43 AM »

I don't know a single Conservative who is superior morally ...
You know me, Ron.   Wink
2funny and humble to boot.  Wink

Hey!  I'm proud of my humility.   Angry
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« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2017, 02:31:19 PM »

I don't know a single Conservative who is superior morally ...
You know me, Ron.   Wink
2funny and humble to boot.  Wink

Hey!  I'm proud of my humility.   Angry
As well you should be.  Cool
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« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2017, 06:30:22 PM »

If I had $1 for every time socialism worked, I'd have $0.

Coincidentally, if socialism did work, I'd also have $0.
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« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2017, 06:22:36 AM »

Socialists want to convince you to participate with logic (their logic), but if that doesn't work they will tax you to death (or you can just kill yourself).

And if you refuse to pay those taxes, then they'll kill you....

Socialism is just communism with extra steps... They both end in mass deaths.



No always, If you notice, Cuba isn't on that billboard.  In Castro's communism, if you are sick, mentally or physically disabled, or a criminal, instead of killing you because you can't contribute towards Castro's wealth, he puts you in a boat and points you towards Key West. 

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