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google up "citizen free press"--first stop after Breitbart for conservatives...he lays the whole Trump/FBI fiasco out..
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2017, 02:18:07 PM » |
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I think he means to see some DNC and FBI heads roll. 
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2017, 02:19:51 PM » |
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Hmm.Looks like this "investigation" is blowing up in their faces like an Acme dynamite kit. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2017, 08:01:37 PM » |
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With Hover running the FBI as long as he did, how can anyone think it wouldn't still be screwed up organization?
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2017, 03:06:38 AM » |
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What a bullshit article ! Because of the things Hoover did as head of the FBI, and what happened at Ruby Ridge, Waco we should abolish the FBI ?
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2017, 04:27:08 AM » |
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What a bullshit article ! Because of the things Hoover did as head of the FBI, and what happened at Ruby Ridge, Waco we should abolish the FBI ? That and the fact that they are trying to influence elections and the will of the people. It has become and always was a Gestapo as Truman said, but it was OUR Gestapo.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2017, 07:09:44 AM » |
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I have always considered myself a conservative but IMHO since Andrew's untimely passing, Breitbart has become about as relevant as the National Inquirer or the Huffington Post. And before you call me a RhINO, I cut all ties with the Republican party the day Trump was nominated and now consider myself an Independent. The FBI is just another corrupt government entity like ATF, DEA (or whatever the current alphabet soup for that agency is), Homeland (no) Security, FCC, et al., that relies upon playing political games for funding.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2017, 12:07:25 PM » |
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First, you might do some research enlightened ones. It was the ATF involved in Waco (FBI had tried to secure a peaceful ending) and the U.S. Marshalls (the lead) with the FBI Rescue Team at Ruby Ridge.
There is a lot of good that comes out of the FBI as far as technology, cyber-warfare, and interstate crimes. It is a shame that right now the FBI leadership seem to lost direction, but that is a politic appointment and that should be expected.
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2017, 12:13:53 PM » |
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you can sign up for "liberty.quotes"..every couple of days they email some 3 quotes from significant people ....most of the people on this board will find it very informative and hopefully lead to greater understanding of what we now have and should go back to...
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2017, 04:12:02 PM » |
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Respectfully disagree. If your bike doesn't start, you don't quit riding. You fix it or replace it. If it's impossible to fire bad employees, change the laws regarding that. If it's possible to fire them, DO IT. If they rise to the level of criminal behavior-arrest them. Like most organizations, the FBI serves an important purpose, so it needs to be beaten back into shape and rebuilt, with as many new parts as it needs.
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Respectfully disagree. If your bike doesn't start, you don't quit riding. You fix it or replace it. If it's impossible to fire bad employees, change the laws regarding that. If it's possible to fire them, DO IT. If they rise to the level of criminal behavior-arrest them. Like most organizations, the FBI serves an important purpose, so it needs to be beaten back into shape and rebuilt, with as many new parts as it needs. I respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement...  If for no other reason than I'm a firm believer in state's rights, and the very idea of a federal police force, an internal spy network, is anathema to that viewpoint. ...but firing the bad apples in the barrel would be a definite good place to start if nothing else... (And if holding the possibility of shutting down the entire operation helps with that.....  )
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not being well versed in the Constitutional role of the FBI--if there is one...I worked Ross Perot's phone bank here in Dallas in '92 and '96 and that was an eye opener to a system oriented shut down of an alternative campaign..I listened some to Ron Paul in 2008 and didn't understand what he was saying ..but about 2010 I finally got what he was saying..he just quoted the Founders and the Constitution at every turn and the media at their owners behest they had a hissy...anyway..follow the money and the best website for that is.."The Money Masters.com"..click on everything there and 2-3 days later you will probably have a true understanding..
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Respectfully disagree. If your bike doesn't start, you don't quit riding. You fix it or replace it. If it's impossible to fire bad employees, change the laws regarding that. If it's possible to fire them, DO IT. If they rise to the level of criminal behavior-arrest them. Like most organizations, the FBI serves an important purpose, so it needs to be beaten back into shape and rebuilt, with as many new parts as it needs. I respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement...  If for no other reason than I'm a firm believer in state's rights, and the very idea of a federal police force, an internal spy network, is anathema to that viewpoint. ...but firing the bad apples in the barrel would be a definite good place to start if nothing else... (And if holding the possibility of shutting down the entire operation helps with that.....  ) I like the concept of States Rights, but I also accept the reality that we can't have 50 armies and navies, etc. and I can see criminals going free as 50 law enforcement agencies refuse to work with each other because of budgets, secrecy, egos, whatever. I believe the founding fathers understood the need for a government that did for the common good what the people and States couldn't do alone. I think the military, customs, FAA, etc. don't violate that until they get crazy stupid like the EPA, but we CAN check the EPA's powers by voting properly.
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I like the concept of States Rights, but I also accept the reality that we can't have 50 armies and navies, etc. and I can see criminals going free as 50 law enforcement agencies refuse to work with each other because of budgets, secrecy, egos, whatever. I believe the founding fathers understood the need for a government that did for the common good what the people and States couldn't do alone. I think the military, customs, FAA, etc. don't violate that until they get crazy stupid like the EPA, but we CAN check the EPA's powers by voting properly. I thought a Republic was the form of government that had a Federal government to take care of most of those concerns. Set standards for infrastructure to work together across state lines (roads, train tracks, bridges etc. The states rights began eroding shortly after 1776.
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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2017, 08:42:55 PM » |
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What happened is the high place operatives ( not so much the rank and file agents ) in all the intelligence services became politicized to a degree probably never witnessed in this country before during the previous administration because that is the Chicago way. As much as I hated this Mueller special counsel it is bringing to light what really happened and is backfiring in a big way. The real crooks are being exposed and this can and should never be allowed to happen in this great country. Stay tuned, we are only getting warmed up. Had Mrs C won it none of this would have came out. Now that the light has been shown on the cockroaches they are scurrying for the recesses.
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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2017, 08:47:02 AM » |
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I love all the fbi bashing and general anti government rants. Surely you all know that for every bad thing these agency’s do, there are a thousand good things. Things that benefit every one of us, every day, whether you want to admit it or not. Maybe you guys should join forces with the anarchists on the far left. You have no idea how close your comments sound to theirs. Merry Christmas everyone.
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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2017, 09:10:26 AM » |
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I love all the fbi bashing and general anti government rants. Surely you all know that for every bad thing these agency’s do, there are a thousand good things. Things that benefit every one of us, every day, whether you want to admit it or not. Maybe you guys should join forces with the anarchists on the far left. You have no idea how close your comments sound to theirs. Merry Christmas everyone.
This is about top level FBI along with DOJ/Clinton collusion...not the low level agents. This big fish has been rotting from the head for a long time. Did you even look at any of the links I posted previous to your comment...if not take a bit of time and have a good look. The phoney Trump/Russian Dossier is going to blow up in the Democrats Faces.
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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2017, 09:36:24 AM » |
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I love all the fbi bashing and general anti government rants. Surely you all know that for every bad thing these agency’s do, there are a thousand good things. Things that benefit every one of us, every day, whether you want to admit it or not. Maybe you guys should join forces with the anarchists on the far left. You have no idea how close your comments sound to theirs. Merry Christmas everyone.
This is about top level FBI along with DOJ/Clinton collusion...not the low level agents. This big fish has been rotting from the head for a long time. Did you even look at any of the links I posted previous to your comment...if not take a bit of time and have a good look. The phoney Trump/Russian Dossier is going to blow up in the Democrats Faces. apparently you thought my post was pointed at you specifically. Not the case at all. My post was pointed at comments that ignore the good that these agency’s do.
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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2017, 10:22:31 AM » |
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This is about top level FBI along with DOJ/Clinton collusion...not the low level agents. This big fish has been rotting from the head for a long time. Did you even look at any of the links I posted previous to your comment...if not take a bit of time and have a good look. The phoney Trump/Russian Dossier is going to blow up in the Democrats Faces. apparently you thought my post was pointed at you specifically. Not the case at all. My post was pointed at comments that ignore the good that these agency’s do. I know for sure I was not your target...just all the irrefutable evidence of collusion between Democrats, the DOJ and the FBI. There is a lot of "Reality Dysphoria" going around these days. Again...Did you even look through the links I posted??
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Thank you Romeo  Merry Christmas to you also  Hmmm, kind of like Trump, for every bad thing you believe he does, look at the thousands of good things he has done and intends to do for the country and it’s citizens! If only he was like the FBI.  What, corrupt and paid for by the political elites on the left???
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While I look at the happenings and current events in this country and the changes that come about I do so with a God perspective. If you think that times and tides are in mans hands and that man is the decider of his fate then after listening to these 2 clips you will see that we still are a nation that God wants and blesses. He is the protector of this nation and its people who seek his face, He is the one that started this nation and He is the one that will end this nation. Many fight against this nation to take and plunder the wealth and resources but God is the one that confounds the plans and purposes of these evil people. The mind of a man plans his way but God orders His footsteps. My people perish for lack of knowledge. It is good to know the deeds of darkness and destruction, but not to fear but to fight in the right way. If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray then I will hear from heaven and heal their land. Our weapons of warfare are not carnal in nature but mighty and powerful through prayer in the pulling down of strongholds. The US as we know it was headed for destruction, but that was not the plan of God for us. It is not by the power or might of man or one man that exposes and changes the deeds of darkness that have gotten us to the point we are today, but its the power of God. NO man can have that much influence in the world to accomplish throttling the plans of darkness that we see and know are behind these world changes. Its a spiritual battle and those who fight against this may find themselves fighting against God. We have never had a clearer picture of the battle of good and evil as we have today in our government and world wide situations. God raised Trump up for a purpose, Trump is following that purpose and achieving the things to bring this country back, to a place and purpose that is God designed. Be encouraged no matter what you see or hear knowing that if God is for us who can be against us. God also called Obama, but we all make a decision on who or what we will follow or do. start at this time 11:00 minutes in. https://youtu.be/sxvN6O_WOpY?t=11m8sKim Clement prophesying about Donald Trump 2007 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFfFtq1fljY
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2017, 06:49:38 AM » |
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"We have never had a clearer picture of the battle of good and evil as we have today in our government and world wide situations." Not even WWII?
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« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2017, 10:29:44 AM » |
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"We have never had a clearer picture of the battle of good and evil as we have today in our government and world wide situations." Not even WWII?
There is a difference to someone declaring war from the outside as compared to someone killing a country from the inside.
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« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2017, 11:14:20 AM » |
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"We have never had a clearer picture of the battle of good and evil as we have today in our government and world wide situations." Not even WWII?
There is a difference to someone declaring war from the outside as compared to someone killing a country from the inside. No argument on that, but I didn't realize that was a criteria regarding good vs evil.
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« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2017, 02:54:50 PM » |
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"We have never had a clearer picture of the battle of good and evil as we have today in our government and world wide situations." Not even WWII?
There is a difference to someone declaring war from the outside as compared to someone killing a country from the inside. No argument on that, but I didn't realize that was a criteria regarding good vs evil. To me if someone declares that they are your enemy and does things to try to kill you then that could be evil. But when someone says they are your friend and yet works to your demise or to destroy you by any means possible that to me is a greater evil. Since the person is not being straight forward and declaring intentions.
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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