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98valk
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« on: January 03, 2018, 04:10:27 PM »

at the Clinton complex.
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2018, 04:20:01 PM »

Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble.*

She probably left the fire on under her cauldron too long.  (Or too many emails in the fire at one time.)

* Shakespeare, Macbeth, Act 4, Scene 1.

   
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2018, 04:28:49 PM »

well the news articles have been updated and it was the secret service building on the grounds which was on fire and not the basement of the clinton house as first reported.
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2018, 05:20:59 PM »

That's the house that the Clinton's get $1100 a month from the SS to use for security.

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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2018, 05:24:35 PM »

Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble.*

She probably left the fire on under her cauldron too long.  (Or too many emails in the fire at one time.)

* Shakespeare, Macbeth, Act 4, Scene 1.

   


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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2018, 07:38:24 PM »

I wonder if she feels the noose tightening around her neck.

Remember, they never thought she was going to lose. Therefore, they never thought investigations and/or public interest into their criminal acts would be exposed/investigated. Therefore, they never thought they had anything to fear. Therefore, they openly showcase their symbolism. Therefore, they were sloppy. Hussein’s last speech in Chicago re: ‘scandal free’. Why did he continually emphasize that phrase? As a backup, they infiltrated and control the narrative (the ‘MSM’).

Ian Cameron, Producer: ABC Evening News. Ian Cameron was born as Ian Officer Cameron. He is a producer, known for ABC World News Tonight with David Muir (1953), This Week (1996) and 60 Minutes (1968). He has been married to Susan Rice since September 12, 1992.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/01/03/house-investigators-uncover-smoking-gun-fbi-knew-hillary-broke-law-let-off-anyway-583469

House Investigators Uncover ‘Smoking Gun’ That FBI Knew Hillary Broke The Law, But Let Her Off Anyway

Congressional investigators told The Hill they possess written statements indicating a belief by FBI agents that laws were broken Clinton and her aides transmitted classified information through her private email server.

Grassley’s staff also received a sworn affidavit from an FBI agent that contradicted claims by Comey.
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2018, 03:10:51 AM »

As the most successful serial killer in history, she apparently needed the space, so she just had to dispose of all those bodies...

Then she threw all those emails, then the servers that contained them.

She's sure been busy.....
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2018, 03:47:07 AM »

She's sure been busy.....

Of this, I have no doubt................
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2018, 06:05:02 AM »

As the most successful serial killer in history, she apparently needed the space, so she just had to dispose of all those bodies...

Then she threw all those emails, then the servers that contained them.

She's sure been busy.....

SS agents don't make that much. she has millions in bribe money. she paid the SSA personal enough to put all the things u mentioned into the SSA building and their silence. money talks.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2018, 06:45:59 AM »

As the most successful serial killer in history, she apparently needed the space, so she just had to dispose of all those bodies...

Then she threw all those emails, then the servers that contained them.

She's sure been busy.....

SS agents don't make that much. she has millions in bribe money. she paid the SSA personal enough to put all the things u mentioned into the SSA building and their silence. money talks.
You may not be aware of this, but there are patriotic citizens who do not take bribes. They work in the Secret Service, they work in the FBI, they work in many government agencies that protect us (you included). To disparage these people like you do is shameful.
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2018, 07:19:25 AM »

As the most successful serial killer in history, she apparently needed the space, so she just had to dispose of all those bodies...

Then she threw all those emails, then the servers that contained them.

She's sure been busy.....

SS agents don't make that much. she has millions in bribe money. she paid the SSA personal enough to put all the things u mentioned into the SSA building and their silence. money talks.
You may not be aware of this, but there are patriotic citizens who do not take bribes. They work in the Secret Service, they work in the FBI, they work in many government agencies that protect us (you included). To disparage these people like you do is shameful.

So again u write with your emotional opinion/feelings based on very little facts. basing your opinions on emotions/feelings is shameful, for our emotions will always cause us to fail.
I worked in the Dept of the NAVY engineering departments for 33.5 yrs as a civil servant retired '16.
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2018, 08:01:39 AM »

As the most successful serial killer in history, she apparently needed the space, so she just had to dispose of all those bodies...

Then she threw all those emails, then the servers that contained them.

She's sure been busy.....

Who is this and what have you done with Baldo?  Evil
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2018, 08:09:04 AM »

As the most successful serial killer in history, she apparently needed the space, so she just had to dispose of all those bodies...

Then she threw all those emails, then the servers that contained them.

She's sure been busy.....

SS agents don't make that much. she has millions in bribe money. she paid the SSA personal enough to put all the things u mentioned into the SSA building and their silence. money talks.
You may not be aware of this, but there are patriotic citizens who do not take bribes. They work in the Secret Service, they work in the FBI, they work in many government agencies that protect us (you included). To disparage these people like you do is shameful.

Actually you might be the one not too aware. People in those positions, such as the SS and FBI, are usually more  subject to being bribed than a normal citizen because of their position and the influence that they may have.
Just look at people like James Comey. He came right out and stated that Clinton lied, multiple times, also stated that it is a criminal offense to lie to the FBI while stating that she did lie to the FBI multiple times. Then says they won't recommend any prosecution because she had no intent to break the law. We might never know if there was any actual bribes made, or any influence thrown around, but Quack, Quack, Waddle, Waddle, looks like a duck to me.
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2018, 08:43:36 AM »

Woes the person who makes there bed with a Clinton. Dead men/ people tell no tails.
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2018, 06:41:13 PM »

Very convenient timing for a house fire...

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/367541-fbi-launches-new-clinton-foundation-investigation
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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2018, 06:51:31 PM »


Just look at people like James Comey. He came right out and stated that Clinton lied, multiple times, also stated that it is a criminal offense to lie to the FBI while stating that she did lie to the FBI multiple times.

Here are highlights of what Comey said:

“Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.”
Clinton’s emails included seven message chains with information classified as top secret.
“None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system.”
“The security culture of the State Department …was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.”
Comey acknowledged that the FBI did not normally make public its recommendations to prosecutors as to whether to bring criminal charges. He added:  “In this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual transparency is in order.”
“Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”
“I know there will be intense public debate in the wake of this recommendation, as there was throughout this investigation.”

Care to rethink your statement ?  coolsmiley
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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2018, 03:27:05 AM »

Then it isn't true that her broom shorted out in the garage?
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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2018, 06:13:41 AM »


Just look at people like James Comey. He came right out and stated that Clinton lied, multiple times, also stated that it is a criminal offense to lie to the FBI while stating that she did lie to the FBI multiple times.

Here are highlights of what Comey said:

“Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.”
Clinton’s emails included seven message chains with information classified as top secret.
“None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system.”
“The security culture of the State Department …was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.”
Comey acknowledged that the FBI did not normally make public its recommendations to prosecutors as to whether to bring criminal charges. He added:  “In this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual transparency is in order.”
“Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”
“I know there will be intense public debate in the wake of this recommendation, as there was throughout this investigation.”

Care to rethink your statement ?  coolsmiley

Well put, Mr Meat.
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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2018, 06:25:07 AM »

I don't know why anyone would think she will do any time for the crimes she has committed. No one can touch her. Until she screws with the wrong person and they put a bullet in her head she will be walking freely among the rest of us.
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2018, 08:56:03 AM »

One of my favorite quips: Rev. Billy Graham stated "The blood of Jesus Christ will cover a multitude of sin."  Hillary Clinton said: "So will a shredder!"  cooldude
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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2018, 09:14:02 AM »

so will a fire.. Those poor hard drives.

http://yournewswire.com/nyfd-servers-hard-drives-clinton/
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2018, 01:06:42 PM »

I wonder how many times we will hear "sorry, destroyed in the fire"

Time will tell
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2018, 02:12:08 PM »

so will a fire.. Those poor hard drives.

http://yournewswire.com/nyfd-servers-hard-drives-clinton/

That is totally unbelievable but I wonder if it was something ongoing that they had to cover up or old servers that they had to destroy. To destroy old servers it would have been much easier to just junk them as opposed to having a fire that calls attention to them. Which is why I wonder if there was something ongoing that these servers were operational now.
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2018, 02:33:38 PM »


Just look at people like James Comey. He came right out and stated that Clinton lied, multiple times, also stated that it is a criminal offense to lie to the FBI while stating that she did lie to the FBI multiple times.


Here are highlights of what Comey said:

“Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.”



Clinton’s emails included seven message chains with information classified as top secret.
“None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system.”
“The security culture of the State Department …was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.”
Comey acknowledged that the FBI did not normally make public its recommendations to prosecutors as to whether to bring criminal charges. He added:  “In this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual transparency is in order.”
“Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”
“I know there will be intense public debate in the wake of this recommendation, as there was throughout this investigation.”

Care to rethink your statement ?  coolsmiley



Original statement was pretty accurate.  Saying those are Comey's words is a bit of a stretch.  More like Comey's words as altered by Clinton hacks.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/367528-comeys-original-clinton-memo-released-cites-possible-violations

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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2018, 03:22:04 PM »


Just look at people like James Comey. He came right out and stated that Clinton lied, multiple times, also stated that it is a criminal offense to lie to the FBI while stating that she did lie to the FBI multiple times.


Here are highlights of what Comey said:

“Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.”



Clinton’s emails included seven message chains with information classified as top secret.
“None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system.”
“The security culture of the State Department …was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.”
Comey acknowledged that the FBI did not normally make public its recommendations to prosecutors as to whether to bring criminal charges. He added:  “In this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual transparency is in order.”
“Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”
“I know there will be intense public debate in the wake of this recommendation, as there was throughout this investigation.”

Care to rethink your statement ?  coolsmiley



Original statement was pretty accurate.  Saying those are Comey's words is a bit of a stretch.  More like Comey's words as altered by Clinton hacks.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/367528-comeys-original-clinton-memo-released-cites-possible-violations

-RP

Not in Comeys statement, but in the direct questioning by Trey Gowdey is where he said she lied to the FBI and that lying to the FBI was a criminal offense. He also said that they found several pieces of classified information in her E-Mails.
I used to work for the Govt. Didn't have the security clearance level that she had, but one big rule in the Gov is any classified, secret, top secret or sensitive information would only be transmitted over a secure gov server. Any variation from this and you would be immediately terminated and due to the nature of the material possibly arrested and/or prosecuted.
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« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2018, 03:51:34 PM »

so will a fire.. Those poor hard drives.

http://yournewswire.com/nyfd-servers-hard-drives-clinton/

That is totally unbelievable but I wonder if it was something ongoing that they had to cover up or old servers that they had to destroy. To destroy old servers it would have been much easier to just junk them as opposed to having a fire that calls attention to them. Which is why I wonder if there was something ongoing that these servers were operational now.


Maybe the SS were getting a little payback for her bad treatment over the years (and her free ride. so far).

But if you had servers to hide or get rid of (which she did, her private computer system is a well known fact), why would you stick them in the bldg the SS uses?

It seems stupid beyond reason.

Perhaps the real ones are long gone, and this become a legal way to explain them missing (as opposed to what happened to the real ones).

And if you had to get rid of the dummies publicly (so they are discovered), better to burn them up in the SS house, than your own house (or garage).  

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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2018, 03:56:52 PM »

from the bottom half of the article.  http://yournewswire.com/nyfd-servers-hard-drives-clinton/

Earlier this week, after Trump warned “high-profile child traffickers” that he was coming for them, QAnon, posting from the White House, pointed followers to to an elite pedophile ring investigation at the State Department in 2013 that was shut down and covered up by Secretary Hillary Clinton.

Posting from Q’s official Twitter account, @kill_rogue, the anonymous insider posted a video of an NBC news report which contained explosive revelations about an investigation into a child abuse and human trafficking network that was operating in Clinton’s State Department.

The NBC investigation was broadcast at a time when they were a real news organization rather than a branch of the Democratic Party’s PR department, and provided leaked internal State Department memos to back up claims of a massive Hillary Clinton elite pedophile ring cover-up.

However, according to NBC, the investigation into the elite pedophile ring was whitewashed by Hillary Clinton in order to protect high-ranking officials, including an ambassador.

“Serious allegations concerning the State Department,” the NBC anchor announced, before launching into the disturbing details that mainstream media would be unable to report on in 2017.
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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2018, 03:58:27 PM »

so will a fire.. Those poor hard drives.

http://yournewswire.com/nyfd-servers-hard-drives-clinton/

That is totally unbelievable but I wonder if it was something ongoing that they had to cover up or old servers that they had to destroy. To destroy old servers it would have been much easier to just junk them as opposed to having a fire that calls attention to them. Which is why I wonder if there was something ongoing that these servers were operational now.


Maybe the SS were getting a little payback for her bad treatment over the years (and her free ride. so far).

But if you had servers to hide or get rid of (which she did, as was all over the news), why would you stick them in the bldg the SS uses?

It seems stupid beyond reason.

Perhaps the real ones are long gone, and this become a legal way to explain them missing (as opposed to what happened to the real ones).


Jess, you haven't been keeping up. The Secret Service agents were clearly bribed to commit arson. Probably some burned up bodies along with all the servers and emails in there.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2018, 04:21:47 PM »


Just look at people like James Comey. He came right out and stated that Clinton lied, multiple times, also stated that it is a criminal offense to lie to the FBI while stating that she did lie to the FBI multiple times.


Here are highlights of what Comey said:

“Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.”



Clinton’s emails included seven message chains with information classified as top secret.
“None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system.”
“The security culture of the State Department …was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.”
Comey acknowledged that the FBI did not normally make public its recommendations to prosecutors as to whether to bring criminal charges. He added:  “In this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual transparency is in order.”
“Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”
“I know there will be intense public debate in the wake of this recommendation, as there was throughout this investigation.”

Care to rethink your statement ?  coolsmiley



Original statement was pretty accurate.  Saying those are Comey's words is a bit of a stretch.  More like Comey's words as altered by Clinton hacks.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/367528-comeys-original-clinton-memo-released-cites-possible-violations

-RP

Not in Comeys statement, but in the direct questioning by Trey Gowdey is where he said she lied to the FBI and that lying to the FBI was a criminal offense. He also said that they found several pieces of classified information in her E-Mails.
I used to work for the Govt. Didn't have the security clearance level that she had, but one big rule in the Gov is any classified, secret, top secret or sensitive information would only be transmitted over a secure gov server. Any variation from this and you would be immediately terminated and due to the nature of the material possibly arrested and/or prosecuted.
The original statement is no where close to accurate. The term "grossly negligent" is no where close to "she lied multiple times". As far as Comey's statements to Trey Gowdy they were in response to Gowdy's questions of what she said to the Benghazi committee. The FBI and a House committee are not the same. Comey stated several times that Clinton did not lie to the FBI . He did agree that some of what she told the Benghazi committee was not entirely accurate.
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« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2018, 04:08:41 AM »

Q's posts have been really good and I think I may have a copy of that hour long investigation into the pedophile rings that was done. It was shocking, indepth and not really aired much either.  The ranch that Anthony Scalia died at was known for this along with the island that Bill Clinton went to on the Lolita Express. Hillary ran interference for Bill and made sure all of the allegations around him went away, in true and biblical pattern we see her as a Jezebel.

Jess you may want to look at this
https://www.scribd.com/document/368478391/CHM-Ltr-to-DAG-Re-Memorialization-of-Call-and-Subpoena-Compliance-4-Ja#fullscreen&from_embed

This document states one day compliance.

The noose is tightening

Why did a flight to Japan come back 1/2 way there
ANA told CNN the plane returned to Los Angeles as part of the airline’s security procedure after someone boarded the wrong flight?

Why was an airport closed

Have you seen all the assets worldwide that have been locked?

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« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2018, 05:25:14 AM »

I wanted to post this for those that may be interested and those that declare so many different false things about this country and its origins. We today see a threat no less dangerous than in times past. In fact the danger is even greater since it does not come from outside but from within. But the decider of times and tides is the one that has put things in motion that have brought back this nation from the brink of destruction. What we see today in the purging and revealing of evil is not the work of man but of the one who created this country and put us on the track to be a truly blessed nation.



http://kevincarmody.com/government/mcclellanvision.html

General McClellan’s Vision of George Washington

According to the National Tribune, December 1880, Anthony Sherman, a close friend of Washington, related this vision to Wesley Bradshaw.

In a strategic moment in the Civil War, General George B. McClellan, who had been called by President Lincoln to take charge of the shattered Union forces, fell asleep at his desk. He had scarcely been asleep a moment, when it seemed that he was awake, and the whole room was filled with a radiant light. Suddenly, out of the light, he heard a voice, and later saw the face of George Washington, who gave him warning that the Confederate troops were on their way to take the Capitol.


“General McClellan, do you sleep at your post? Rouse you, or ’ere it can be prevented, the foe will be in Washington! … You have been betrayed, and had God not willed it otherwise, ’ere the sun of tomorrow had set, the Confederate flag would have waved above the Capitol and your own grave. But note what you see. Your time is short!”

In this strange dream state, General McClellan seemed to see a living map of all the troop positions—and with a pencil at hand, he began to copy down all that he saw—the positions of the Confederate troops as they marched toward Washington; the maneuvers which they planned in the future. After the warning of the immediate peril which faced the Union, the splendor of Washington became even greater as he spoke of the days ahead in this, the 20th century, when other perils could befall our nation.

“General McClellan, while yet in the flesh, I beheld the birth of the America Republic. It was indeed a hard and bloody one, but God’s blessing was upon the nation, and, therefore, through this, her first great struggle for existence. He sustained her, and with His mighty hand, He brought her out triumphantly.

“A century has not passed since then, and yet the child Republic has taken her position of peer with nations whose pages of history extend for ages into the past. She has, since those dark days, by the favor of God, greatly prospered. And now, by the very reason of that prosperity, has she been brought to her second great struggle.

“This is by far the most perilous ordeal she has to endure, passing as she is from childhood to open maturity, she is called on to accomplish that vast result, Self-Conquest; to learn that important lesson—self-control, self-rule, that in the future will place her in the van of power and civilization.

“It is here that all the nations have hitherto failed, and she, too—the Republic of the earth, had not God willed other wise—would by tomorrow’s sunset have been a heap of stones, cast up over the final grave of human liberty. But! her cries have come up out of the borders like sweet incense into heaven. She shall be saved! Then, shall peace be upon her, and prosperity shall fill her with joy.

“But her mission will not be finished, for ’ere another century shall have gone by, the oppressors of the whole earth, hating and envying her exaltation, shall join themselves together and raise up their hands against her.

“But if she be found worthy of her calling, they shall be truly discomfited, and then will be ended her third and last struggle for existence. Henceforth, shall the Republic go on, increasing in goodness and power until her borders shall end only in the remotest corners of the earth, and the whole earth shall, beneath her shadowy wings, become a universal republic!”

Upon hearing these words, General McClellan awoke to find the markings and symbols of the Confederate maneuvers upon his own maps as if his dream-pencil had actually placed them there. In his account of this strange precognitive experience,

General McClellan wrote:

“… Our beloved, glorious Washington shall rest … until perhaps the end of the Prophetic Century approaches, that is to bring the Republic to a third and final struggle when he may once more … become a Messenger of Succor and Peace from the Great Ruler, who has all nations in his keeping …”
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« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2018, 07:15:57 AM »

McClellan was an outstanding logistican, supply and training officer.

But he sucked as a combat commander.  (But so did a whole pile of the Yankee combat commanders)
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« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2018, 08:14:40 AM »

Ok, OK, OK, I give, all you guys are 100% right, Hillary is a Lily White Goddess who never did wrong who leads the most beneficial charity the world has ever seen, and is married to the most devoted, loving, honorable and faithful man, whose loving offspring runs their charitable organization with sheer transparency, with no expectation of monetary rewards, just out of her sheer awesomeness.
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« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2018, 08:24:32 AM »

Ok, OK, OK, I give, all you guys are 100% right, Hillary is a Lily White Goddess who never did wrong who leads the most beneficial charity the world has ever seen, and is married to the most devoted, loving, honorable and faithful man, whose loving offspring runs their charitable organization with sheer transparency, with no expectation of monetary rewards, just out of her sheer awesomeness.
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chelsea is not billy's daughter.
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« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2018, 08:40:21 AM »

Thanks for reminding me I had forgotten that,

But a new book by Roger Stone and Robert Morrow, “The Clintons’ War on Women,” takes the story to a new level – naming the actual biological father as Webb Hubbell, Hillary Clinton’s partner at the Little Rock Rose Law Firm and, later, associate attorney general of the U.S. in the Clinton administration.

I wonder what plans Trump has for GUANTANAMO  Wink

This is the 60 minutes clip on Pedophilia.

60 Minutes on the UK Gov. Pedophile Ring Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bezVbPCK5Q8

ASHTON KUTCHER EXPOSES PIZZAGATE IN FRONT OF CONGRESS AND THE MEDIA STAYS SILENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgh0xLWgA0w
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