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« on: February 21, 2018, 02:49:07 PM »

https://njgunpermitattorney.com/blog/

The Carlo Bellario case is finally done so I can now discuss this case in more detail.  Today he was sentenced to two years probation; down from the three years as called for in the plea agreement.  You can read more about today’s sentencing here:  http://newjersey.news12.com/news/actor-carlo-bellario-sentenced-to-two-years-probation-over-prop-pellet-gun-used-in-film-1.12778579

While the case was going on, I really couldn’t discuss a number of things.  Most people were outraged that he was arrested.  If you didn’t follow the case, Carlo was an actor that was shooting a moving in Woodbridge, New Jersey.  He was handed what he thought was a prop gun to shoot a scene.  The police were called because the residents of the neighborhood saw Carlo with the gun.  Since the movie producers did not secure a permit to film in the town, the police responded to investigate.  Turns out, this was a BB gun which is illegal in New Jersey.  As a result, he was arrested and he was facing many years in prison for unlawful possession of a BB gun in addition to other charges.

A lot of people thought it was that you could be arrested for such an offense.  After all, all of the evidence supported Carlo’s statement that he had no idea that this was a BB gun.  In New Jersey, like most states, you are punished for knowingly doing something illegal. That does not mean that you need to know that something is illegal as mistake of law and/or lack of knowledge about the law is not a defense.  Instead, the knowing element of an offense goes to your state of mind.  For example, if you buy an old trunk at a garage sale and it contains cocaine, you would have a great defense if you did not open it.  That is because you did not knowingly possess the cocaine.

So with regard to Carlo’s case, he did not knowingly possess a BB gun.  He thought it was a fake gun and all of the evidence supports this defense.  So he’d be not guilty right?  Wrong!

The primary case on this issue is State v. Pelleteri, 294 N.J. Super. 330 (1996) in which the Defendant was an expert marksman and gun collector.  In the late 80’s he won a rifle at a contest.  He didn’t inspect the weapon and instead just put it in his safe with the rest of his collection.  For some reason, the police came in contact with him and this rifle in 1993.  There is no indication that he was accused of doing any illegal or that he was charged with any other offenses.  When the police inspected this rifle, they found that it had a 17 round capacity and as a result, was an illegal assault rifle in New Jersey.  He was charged possession of an assault firearm.  Based upon his extensive gun collection, it is clear that he did not have a felony criminal record.  For whatever reason, the case went to trial.

At trial, like on appeal, his attorney argued that he did not know that this rifle was an assault rifle.  However, the trial judge refused to instruct the jury that this lack of knowledge as to the character of the rifle was a defense.  The Appellate Division summed up the case in these two sentences:  “The question squarely presented is whether the State was required to prove that the defendant knew the gun in his possession was an assault firearm. We hold that knowledge of the character of the weapon is not an element of the offense.”

Let that sink in for a minute.  Even if you did nothing wrong, even if you had the best of intentions, a simple mistake could land you in handcuffs (and everything that comes after that).  Towards the end of the opinion, the Appellate Division has this warning:  “When dealing with guns, the citizen acts at his peril”.

This concept was further explored in the case of State v. Smith, 197 N.J. 325 (2009)in which the New Jersey Supreme Court considered the Defendant’s charge of possession of a defaced firearm.  Like the Pelleteri case, the Defendant in Smith argued that the State must prove that the he knew the firearm was defaced.  Also like Pelleteri, the Court disagreed by holding:  “In conclusion, we hold that the term “knowingly” in N.J.S.A. 2C:39-3(d) modifies “possession” of a firearm which has been defaced. The State was not required to prove that, at the time that he knowingly possessed the firearm, defendant also knew that it was defaced.”

Therefore, what happened to Carlo, as wrong as it was in the court of public opinion, was actually legal in a court of law.  Just imagine borrowing flour from your neighbor and it turns out to be cocaine.  Do you think you should be charged with possession of a controlled dangerous substance?  Of course not because you have to know that what you are possession is in fact cocaine.  For some reason, the laws in New Jersey differ when it comes to firearms.

While there were a number of issues in Carlo’s case, this was a big one.  Even though there was no evidence that he was knowingly possessing a BB gun, the fact that he knowingly possessed the object and the object was in fact an illegal BB gun is all the State was going to have to prove.  Now you may think that these cases are rare and that this would never happen to you.  Consider this.  Carlo’s case was wrapped up today.  On Wednesday, I will be wrapping up another case where my client legally bought a rifle at a NJ gun store.  It turns out that this rifle is an illegal assault rifle as it holds 17 rounds.  He had no idea this was illegal and apparently, neither did the gun store owner.  One would think that the owner of a gun store would know the laws right?

Much like Carlo’s case, none of that is a defense.  Also like Carlo’s case, the State’s original plea offer called for several years in prison.  This client had two other lawyers working on the case for months but they were getting nowhere fast.  He then hired me and I worked out a deal to get his charges dismissed via PTI and to also prevent him from getting charged with the assault rifle charge (he was facing other minor charges).  So that’s two cases in one week with the same issue and I’m just one lawyer.  Who knows how many other cases like this are out there?

I would love to be able to give you some words of wisdom here short of moving out of the state but I unfortunately don’t have much.  I encourage everyone to learn about firearms and learn how to shoot them.  However, if you are going to be involved in firearms in anyway in New Jersey, you have to really know the law and be very careful in everything you do.
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2018, 03:14:33 PM »

I live in Indiana and I would never live in New Jersey. Gee, the crime rate in New Jersey must be very low because it cut down murders and assaults with BBguns.  Tell that to the lady who was incarcerated there because she told a NJ LEO that she had a gun and a permit for it (from another state).

I belong to a group who will help me financially if I have a righteous shoot.  Every month law is discussed. Unfortunately just about everywhere the legal nightmare will begin.  As Mas Ayoob said it's sorta like starting a log in a chipper shredder.  Once started it goes to the end, let the chips fall where they may.  I say practice OODA, get away, don't defend unless you want one helluva nightmare. even if you did the right thing.

Having said that, at least Indiana recognizes my rights.
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2018, 04:27:22 PM »

When I bought my 2d valk, I took the Amtrak to Springfiled MA, and the owner picked me up and took me to his home in Belchertown.  The next day, with map in hand, I commenced to ride my new bike home to VA.  I did not want to take the rotten I-95 corridor, and had a plan to zig zag (south, then west, then south, then west and so on) my way home through NY & PA.  As usual, I got lost and missed some turns.

Then, one the worst things to ever happen in my life happened, when I looked up and saw signs saying I had ridden my stupid ass into New Jersey.  I had a revolver with me, and ammo, but not loaded, and following the two container storage rule for transport, but I turned around and carefully exited New Jersey breaking no laws or speed limits. It was a good thing I was riding on a MA plate, and not a VA plate.  When I was out of New Jersey, I got off and looked at my map again, and found my way home.  That will never happen again.  (not that MA is exactly a picture of freedom either, but I had to ride in MA, and the two container transport rule with an unloaded firearm is legal there, as it is almost everywhere).

If New Jersey reads this, the statute of limitations has passed, so you can kiss my fuzzy white ass.   Ptouey

Disclaimer:  I mean every insult possible to NJ, but none whatsoever to any of our Jersey members. (unless you voted for any of that insanity).

Felonious unloaded BB gun possession is right out of Alice in Wonderland, or the old Soviet Union.
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2018, 04:46:29 PM »

Recently I had a relative living in New Jersey (a lawyer no less) infer that Hoosiers like me and my son, are hayseeds.

He has been unfriended by both of us and I doubt if I'll ever visit there again.  Unfortunately my brother-in-law (a former Marine) lives there, this lawyer is his son
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2018, 04:50:33 PM »

I had a similar thing happen to me many years back, but I had my sidearm on me, it was loaded and not locked away...

Spousal unit and I were riding along the Rio Grande west of Big Bend National Park, were planning on riding to the border check point, stowing my weapon on the Valk then walking across the border just so she could say she'd been outta the USA.

Was riding towards the border, looking for the check point, a parking lot, whatever when I suddenly noticed the red stop sign in front of my didn't say stop, it said ALTO!

And the police officer barring my way was wearing a different uniform from what I was used to and was yelling ALTO! at me.

Uhoh... I saw "Welcome to the United States of America!" written backwards in my rearview mirror.

MAJOR uhoh!

He pretended to not speak English, so I used my middle school Spanish to tell him I was going to the end of the dividing barrier, pulling a u-turn and going back home. He had no problem with this, so I did.

We then spent a very nervous 30 minutes (Was probably more like 3, but felt like an eternity!) getting talking to US customs. He asked where we'd been in Mexico. I said "To that stop sign and turned around!"

"Ah, got one good luck and decided you didn't like the look of the place? I don't blame you at all!"

Talk about a pucker factor, that's almost as scary as accidentally going to New Jersey!!!
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2018, 05:00:51 PM »

I'm thinking the NJ legislature watched "A Christmas Story" one too many times and took "You'll shoot your eye out" way too seriously.

Outlaw BB guns?  Stupid.  ???

Another reason to stay away.

Serk, your story reminded of the time some buddies and I did the same thing at the Canadian/NH border.

Rode right into Canada.

It was pre 9/11, so even though the officer was somewhat upset with us, we hung out with him for a few and I think he was glad for the company.  He was actually a pretty cool dude.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2018, 05:04:34 PM »

Talk about a pucker factor, that's almost as scary as accidentally going to New Jersey!!!

I smuggled two big German switchblades taped to my legs through Turkish customs at an airport. (shortly after the Libyans tried to blow up my wedding in Ankara, and I could not get my hands on a firearm for love nor money).  I had been through customs many times, and as an American military officer, it was always a breeze (though a pat down was always possible).  This worried me far less than being in Jersey with a handgun.

Mind you, that was 1986, and I wouldn't do it again.

Post 911, I got jacked up big time because a tiny luggage key was stuck in my pants cuff (airport).
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2018, 05:05:07 PM »

some history...I know I can escape just haven't yet.
it got really bad after the UN marxist Florio was elected governor. he never really ran on a gun ticket and did it after a yrs after he was elected in '90
Gun laws here align closely with the federal push for gun laws but there are some unique incidents and landmark cases in New Jersey that shape our gun control landscape.

The first thing that really pushed gun control nationally and in New Jersey was the Kennedy assassination. Arthur J. Sills, the then attorney general specifically referenced that incident in his testimony before the state legislature in 1966 when the current firearms licensing scheme was being considered. He did say that he was considering tightening up gun laws here before the assassination but the assassination was the final straw. So born out of this was the biggest part of NJ gun control law - the permitting scheme and firearms ID card.

The Newark riots in 1967 along with similar riots in detroit also enhanced the push for gun control. A report in 1968 blamed the easy availability of guns for the protesters being armed and greeting law enforcement with gunfire.

A lot of strict gun laws were also signed by two very liberal governors - Jim Florio and Jon Corzine. The legislature is solidly democratic and hasn’t really been Republican since the 80s and early 90s with Governor Tom Kean, Sr. With increased immigration and the resulting changed demographics, Republicans simply cannot regain power in this state. Chris Christie was more or less an anomaly since Jon Corzine was just so bad that any Republican would have beat him.

This notwithstanding, much of NJ gun control isn’t just what’s in law passed by the legislature. Rather, it comes from decisions from the NJ courts. A lot of gun laws in the garden state were vague before they were actually tested in front of the state superior court. For example, the justifiable need standard to obtain a carry permit was ambiguous until the Siccardi case, where the supreme court itself set out to define what justifiable need was. There was also the Brian Aitken case, where the courts determined that transporting hollow points between two homes is a felony. The NJ courts are also solidly liberal due to the state senate being solidly democratic. The current Senate President has held judicial vacancies open indefinitely until he could get liberal replacements, and was not afraid to say so.

In the end it’s a combination of just solid democratic rule and a solidly left leaning judicial system. Short of a far reaching decision from the US Supreme Court, nothing will really change here.

A major factor is that the onerous requirements of the FID (firearm owner’s ID card) has discouraged many people who would otherwise be interested in exercising their right of arms from doing so. After 50 years, time has taken its toll, and the overall percentage of people who actually go through all the hoops as abuse (“What do you need a gun for? You gonna rob a bank? Are you gonna be a problem? ” —the cop who fingerprinted me for my FID) is somewhere around 10%, which is well below the norm.

Consequently, owning guns is literally abnormal, socially disproved of, and can cost you friends and job opportunities.

NJ also has one of the highest immigration rates in its population (20%), which means that 1 out of 5 residents would come from a country unlikely to have a healthy civil gun culture.

There is widespread judicial collusion in the state which has resulted in outrageous “findings” concerning NJ’s draconian gun laws.

Structurally, NJ has what they perversely call “an independent judiciary”. The reality is that they are political appointees selected for ideological conformity, and are essentially granted their benches for life, and as a consequence, they’re able to get their outrages to persist.

Another factor is the structure of the gun laws themselves, which inverts the usual formulation of “all is permitted except when expressly prohibited”. In other words, the law is written such that possession of a firearm is flatly unlawful unless a specific exemption can be demonstrated to exist in every detail of your particular case and circumstances. These exemptions are very strictly interpreted, (see the bit about judicial collusion) , and as one judge put it, “When dealing with guns, the citizen acts at his peril. ” (STATE OF N.J. V. JOSEPH PELLETERI)

https://www.quora.com/What-factors-led-to-NJ-having-stricter-gun-laws-than-most-other-states-and-what-is-keeping-them-in-place
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2018, 05:27:30 PM »

shortly after the Libyans tried to blow up my wedding in Ankara

I make WAY more than my share of typos, but for clarification... was that meant to be "my" or "a" wedding?  Shocked
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2018, 05:36:06 PM »

Good question

Anything you care to share Jess ?  Smiley

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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2018, 08:31:01 PM »

It was my wedding they tried to blow up.

I've told this story twice before on here, going back some years though.

Qaddafi, was in his full support of terror mode and was blowing up clubs in Germany and Athens (Bobby's, I visited it after it was rebuilt, in daytime, for one quick beer) that were known for US military frequenting while off duty (to pick up the local girls).  Regan got angry about it, and Operation El Dorado Canyon was launched with F-111s out of Lakenheath and Mildenhall ABs in the UK.  France denied overfly, so our guys had to fly all the way around Gibraltar (refueling there and back), and we hit him hard, but missed Qaddafi, and we lost one plane tumbled at the beach.  April 1986.

This happened on a Sunday night, and my wedding was already planned for the following Friday at the off-base Ankara AS Officers Open Mess (O'club).  No public notice was posted and no mail sent, invites were word of mouth around the small command.  If you look at a map, you see Turkey is right across the Med from Libya.  Retaliation was expected, base security was increased exponentially, and Tuesday the base commander closed the club, and I was told the wedding was off, and I spent the whole day calling it off  (instead planning for just a few friends at my off base apartment).  But Wednesday, the two-star returned from TDY, and announced we were damn well going to have the wedding, we'd just beef up security at the club.  So I spent all day Wednesday, putting it back on.

Friday, I show up for my wedding, and extra security was an understatement.  There were a dozen blue bird USAF buses nose to tail in the street outside the club, we had Turk swat teams in full gear and machine guns, and Turk soldiers too.  I was then told no presents could come in the club, so they pulled two big steel poles from the ground, I backed my SS El Camino with camper in, and every gift was thrown in back, and then I had to drive it a half mile down the street in case it blew up, and hustle my ass back to my wedding, in my (borrowed) mess dress uniform.  We had appx. 200 Americans and 50 Turks in attendance.  Her family had to stand at the door and vouch for the Turks (except some of our civilian employee friends).

About a half hour into the ceremony, Turk secret police (in local garb on the periphery) noticed two guys walking down the street toward the club, one with a suitcase.  You can't tell the difference between a Turk and a Libyan, but they probably could.  They asked what was in the suitcase, a scuffle ensued, they were arrested, and the suitcase was full of Russian made large antipersonnel hand grenades.  Security came in and told the general, and he and his wife left, but they told no one else.  It wasn't just to not spoil the wedding.  There was no way to know if there were more bad guys out there, and if the entire club emptied out onto the street (which is exactly what would have happened if it was announced), they could have been mowed down in a hail of gunfire.  Bldgs in Turkey are all concrete fortresses, but there are windows.  

So now the ceremony is over and the partying is under way, and I am completely whipped, and I go upstairs by myself to the empty casual bar and out on the balcony to have a smoke, and a loud explosion goes off up on the hill behind the club (Ankara sits in a valley between 6-7 mountains).  I can smell cordite.  I have no idea what that is about, and the music is so loud downstairs, no one else heard it.  I learn later, a third guy came down with an improvised bomb behind the club, he was also caught, and SOP they ran it up the hill and set it off.

You have to stay till the end of your own wedding (even if you don't want to), so late, the people who are left are told what has happened, and the place is empty in no time.  I go get my Chevy, take the bride home to my apartment, we gingerly carry all the gifts up to my 5th floor unoccupied back bedroom, and I make her leave, then play rookie EOD man on all my wedding presents.  No problem there.

After my magnanimous 3-day honeymoon and return to work, the O6 chief of USAF security for Turkey calls me in his office and asks what my clearance is.  Secret.  That's not good enough, so he throws a small file on his desk, walks out of his cypher lock office, and tells me not to read it.  It explains that CIA and Turk secret police in Istanbul knew these three Libyans the minute they landed up there (but not what their plans were).  They followed them around, and followed them down to Ankara (where they got rooms at the main USAF billeting huge hotel where I lived for weeks when I arrived), but lost them in terrible traffic the day of my wedding.  Clearly, none of this was told to any USAF in Ankara, including our two-star, or the wedding would have been called off.  

I also learn the Turks took these assholes downtown, hooked them up to 220 and told them they had a right to scream, but we will know everything you know, and in short order, they did.  Including that the grenades and explosives came to the Libyan embassy in diplomatic pouches.  And Moe, Larry and Curly picked them up there on the way to the Club.  I never did find out how they found out about and decided to target my wedding at the club, but it clearly was the softest target available.

Turk newspapers are very very National Inquirer-like, and this incident was widely covered, with a great deal of indignity that a fellow Muslim nation would conduct terror in another (remember, this is back in 1986), and they were made to look like fools with funny as hell cartoons.  It just so happened my apartment, was only one block away, on the same street as the Libyan embassy, and I was very worried that psycho Momar would order them to find and kill me and the new wife (or worse) to make up for the blunder and the humiliating press.  

I went to command and asked for a firearm (just an old model 15 Smith 38 or something), and was laughed out of the room. What do you want, an international incident? As it was, my El Camino parked on the street stood out like a sore thumb, and every morning at O dark thirty, I could be found carefully playing rookie EOD man again checking for wires and bombs, and under the hood, and gas tank.  My Turk immediate neighbors knew the story, and knew what I was doing, and they liked to laugh and joke about it (from across the street), but when I invited them to start my car, they declined.

I did buy about 50 feet of quality rope and two pair of leather gloves, and tied it to a drain pipe on my balcony (5th floor), and explained to my very fit wife, if the Libyans come in the front door, we were going over the side of the building.  I also shortly got sent to Germany, and brought back two big switchblades through Turk customs (one for each of us).  The only firearm I could legally buy over there was a custom made over and under shotgun for about $800, and it cost me nearly everything I had to get married.

This incident did not get major coverage in world or US press because no one got blown up, and a lot of other terror incidents were ongoing around the world at this time.  I don't recall it being mentioned in our own Stars and Stripes newspaper.  Of course, Qaddafi did get even in 1991, with the Lockerbie bombing.  And BTW, the two guys with the grenades got 2-year sentences.   tickedoff

The raid on Libya:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_United_States_bombing_of_Libya

https://newspaperarchive.com/salina-journal-apr-29-1986-p-5/

If you scroll down far enough, you will read:  http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WL9111/S00007/cablegate-libyan-officials-indicted-for-bombing-pan-103.htm
 
IN ADDITION, TWO LIBYANS WERE APPREHENDED ON 18 APRIL 1986 AS THEY ATTEMPTED TO ATTACK THE US OFFICERS CLUB IN ANKARA WITH GRENADES OBTAINED FROM THE LIBYAN PEOPLE'S BUREAU THERE. THE LIBYANS CONFESSED THAT THEY WERE ORDERED TO CAUSE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CAUSALITIES, PARTICULARLY WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

Other articles (below) say 4 were arrested.  I'm pretty sure it was three.

Also mentioned here:
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/173662831/

(way down)
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1990/JRL.htm

Some years ago, I found an article written by a former CIA operator that briefly referred to their part in IDing the Libyans in Istanbul, headed to Ankara in April 1986, but no joy just now.

https://books.google.com/books?id=UIBzCC0c2McC&pg=PA51&lpg=PA51&dq=april+1986+ankara+turkey+officers+club+bombing&source=bl&ots=AmPWkBQCDS&sig=pOaewPB2QkvfmYRYgVRCr-BSY84&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi6wuCG5bjZAhXPnOAKHdWxDTMQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=april%201986%20ankara%20turkey%20officers%20club%20bombing&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=bekED50mOJAC&pg=PA653&lpg=PA653&dq=april+1986+ankara+turkey+officers+club+bombing&source=bl&ots=pFS2GIElah&sig=70_Lvk6-tc6ZlMKoz7k4mx65sIc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwigrYfL5bjZAhWENd8KHajTDgEQ6AEIKzAB#v=onepage&q=april%201986%20ankara%20turkey%20officers%20club%20bombing&f=false

I put these links here, because it is my experience that many like to expand on the events of their military service.

You can see that the Libyan's chances of success that evening were not very good, and they were indeed captured (right outside the club).  However, for me (and the wife) this event was not over that evening.  Qaddafi was a known lunatic who liked to get even with people, and the risk and worry continued for some weeks after that evening.  He might not be able to have much luck getting onto a highly secure military installation, but getting to two people in a downtown apartment (a block from their embassy) would not have been hard at all.





 
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2018, 06:27:37 AM »

Thank you for sharing

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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2018, 07:16:22 AM »

Wow... Not sure how I missed a compelling story like that previously, but thank you for writing it all out for us again.

I was in middle school during the F-111 Libya strike, I remember it clearly, I was good friends with a trio of brothers with a Saudi father and a Puerto Rican mother, and when I refused to condemn Reagan for the strike they broke off all contact with me. (I guess that was my first case of politically motivated "unfriending" come to think of it. Oh well, sometimes the trash takes itself out I suppose.)

I also remember my dad getting very excited checking the tail numbers of the F-111's that were used in the strike, and he verified some of them were "his" birds that took part in the raid (He was in charge of the electronics crew over the F-111's at Upper Heyford in the mid 70's)

I bet you breathed a small sigh of relief on or about October 20th, 2011...
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2018, 08:15:56 AM »

I bet you breathed a small sigh of relief on or about October 20th, 2011...

Shortly before all this drama occurred in Ankara,  I was tapped to volunteer to transfer to Incerlik AB, down south on the Med outside Adana to take over as Area Defense Counsel for all USAF in Turkey.  I wasn't dying to go, but it was considered a big feather in your hat since not all Jr captains are deemed suitable to run their own shop, or for criminal trail work.  But when your real senior Col and his Lt Col deputy (chief of military justice for Turkey) call you in and tell you they really need you.... why you just step up.  So this was why I got married after dating her for only six weeks; it was that or likely never see her again.  So me and the new wife (now on my orders), transferred to Incerlik only about a month after the wedding (incident), and I got very nice new base housing on the most secure base in Turkey, and the drama was over for good.

Two or three years later at March AFB.
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