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Wizzard
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« on: March 13, 2018, 09:48:35 AM »

https://nypost.com/2018/03/12/warrens-native-american-problem-is-only-going-to-get-worse/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2018, 10:01:01 AM »

The amusing thing is that she paints her father's family as a bunch of bigots.
Maybe they can change the oil while they're under that bus.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2018, 12:11:44 PM »

From my point of view, most all of us are are pretty Heinz 57 in lineage.

It has been so for a long time.

Mostly because humans like to screw anything that will sit still for a minute of two.

Proving that lineage however is often difficult or impossible. (though I guess they have DNA blood work now)

I couldn't care less if she is part native American; that has nothing to do with her insanity.  
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2018, 07:24:12 AM »

From my point of view, most all of us are are pretty Heinz 57 in lineage.

It has been so for a long time.

Mostly because humans like to screw anything that will sit still for a minute of two.

Proving that lineage however is often difficult or impossible. (though I guess they have DNA blood work now)

I couldn't care less if she is part native American; that has nothing to do with her insanity.  
Very true on the Heinz 57, but she applied for and received financial gain by claiming to have native ancestry, yet never had to back it up and indeed, seems to be unable to do so. DNA tests could have absolutely cleaned this up, guess they're looking for "just the right lab". Her college and career experience were absolutely enhanced by her claims, and she owes some money back if she lied.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2018, 07:43:40 AM »

From my point of view, most all of us are are pretty Heinz 57 in lineage.

It has been so for a long time.

Mostly because humans like to screw anything that will sit still for a minute of two.

Proving that lineage however is often difficult or impossible. (though I guess they have DNA blood work now)

I couldn't care less if she is part native American; that has nothing to do with her insanity.  
Very true on the Heinz 57, but she applied for and received financial gain by claiming to have native ancestry, yet never had to back it up and indeed, seems to be unable to do so. DNA tests could have absolutely cleaned this up, guess they're looking for "just the right lab". Her college and career experience were absolutely enhanced by her claims, and she owes some money back if she lied.

Exactly
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2018, 07:51:44 AM »

From my point of view, most all of us are are pretty Heinz 57 in lineage.

It has been so for a long time.

Mostly because humans like to screw anything that will sit still for a minute of two.

Proving that lineage however is often difficult or impossible. (though I guess they have DNA blood work now)

I couldn't care less if she is part native American; that has nothing to do with her insanity.  
Very true on the Heinz 57, but she applied for and received financial gain by claiming to have native ancestry, yet never had to back it up and indeed, seems to be unable to do so. DNA tests could have absolutely cleaned this up, guess they're looking for "just the right lab". Her college and career experience were absolutely enhanced by her claims, and she owes some money back if she lied.


Exactly
Far from “exactly”.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/01/facts-behind-elizabeth-warren-and-her-native-ameri/
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2018, 08:07:21 AM »

From my point of view, most all of us are are pretty Heinz 57 in lineage.

It has been so for a long time.

Mostly because humans like to screw anything that will sit still for a minute of two.

Proving that lineage however is often difficult or impossible. (though I guess they have DNA blood work now)

I couldn't care less if she is part native American; that has nothing to do with her insanity.  
Very true on the Heinz 57, but she applied for and received financial gain by claiming to have native ancestry, yet never had to back it up and indeed, seems to be unable to do so. DNA tests could have absolutely cleaned this up, guess they're looking for "just the right lab". Her college and career experience were absolutely enhanced by her claims, and she owes some money back if she lied.


Exactly
Far from “exactly”.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/01/facts-behind-elizabeth-warren-and-her-native-ameri/



Ok,, you got me on some points, but that article is certainly not flattering to her nor does it really clear up anything. She still claims it and refuses to provide any proof. As for my opinion of her,, she spews some really stupid stuff.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2018, 08:21:05 AM »

You are right. It doesn’t put her in a good light. But, she didn’t receive any special treatment as many keep saying. Personally I think it’s much to do about nothing. If my parents had told me I was part Indian, I would probably believe them.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2018, 08:21:15 AM »

The Social Justice Warrior Crowd and Liberals in general...are "beating the drums" against Cultural Appropriation to the point of Snowflake Meltdown about something as ridiculous as Halloween Costumes, but when it comes to one of their own...CRICKETS. The Cherokee Nation must be Right Pissed Off  with Warren...and justifiably so. Please Liberals...Quit Crying about  the Washington RED SKINS, the Chicago BLACK HAWKS, THE Kansas City CHIEFS, Milwaukee BRAVES....ETC.
I FOR ONE...AM ALL FULL UP WITH YOUR HYPOCRISY.  
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2018, 08:22:26 AM »

Well, I know one thing for sure.  My white male status kept me out of the one law school I had been preparing (and working hard to qualify for) for many years.  With help from the SCOTUS in Regents of the University of California v. Bakke, 438 U.S. 265 (1978).  I was informed as a white male, I would have to score in the top 2% of the LSAT admissions test (nationwide) to get in.  I scored pretty well, even came up 40 points the 2d time, but I could not make it to the top 2%.  My 3.79 GPA (and list of other achievements) was nice but irrelevant.

I should have claimed membership in the Hekawi nation.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYkUNuMD8pc

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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2018, 08:31:05 AM »

You are right. It doesn’t put her in a good light. But, she didn’t receive any special treatment as many keep saying. Personally I think it’s much to do about nothing. If my parents had told me I was part Indian, I would probably believe them.

I was part Indian,, hunted with a bow. At least I identified with them  2funny 2funny
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2018, 08:32:47 AM »

I am part of the fungowee tribe. Every time we get lost our cry is  "Where the fungowee"
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2018, 08:40:09 AM »

I am part of the fungowee tribe. Every time we get lost our cry is  "Where the fungowee"

That is hilarious!

And only someone that has been lost in a deep woods in their life understands the panic in that voice.
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2018, 08:46:55 AM »

I am part of the fungowee tribe. Every time we get lost our cry is  "Where the fungowee"

That is hilarious!

And only someone that has been lost in a deep woods in their life understands the panic in that voice.
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2018, 09:11:47 AM »

The Social Justice Warrior Crowd and Liberals in general...are "beating the drums" against Cultural Appropriation to the point of Snowflake Meltdown about something as ridiculous as Halloween Costumes, but when it comes to one of their own...CRICKETS. The Cherokee Nation must be Right Pissed Off  with Warren...and justifiably so. Please Liberals...Quit Crying about  the Washington RED SKINS, the Chicago BLACK HAWKS, THE Kansas City CHIEFS, Milwaukee BRAVES....ETC.
I FOR ONE...AM ALL FULL UP WITH YOUR HYPOCRISY.  
Don’t you guys have any sports in Canada ?
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2018, 09:13:41 AM »

You are right. It doesn’t put her in a good light. But, she didn’t receive any special treatment as many keep saying. Personally I think it’s much to do about nothing. If my parents had told me I was part Indian, I would probably believe them.

I was part Indian,, hunted with a bow. At least I identified with them  2funny 2funny
Hindu Indian or Sikh ?  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2018, 10:26:23 AM »

Hey Gig, you didn't run into a swarm of FLORMs on that trip did you?  Where the fugis fugawi anyway?
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2018, 12:24:54 PM »

Hey Gig, you didn't run into a swarm of FLORMs on that trip did you?  Where the fugis fugawi anyway?

Found your modeling head shot, might want to re-think that whole Proving Grounds retirement thing...
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2018, 03:24:34 PM »

It looks better when I wear my Medina Sod bowling shirt.
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2018, 04:05:10 PM »

It looks better when I wear my Medina Sod bowling shirt.

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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2018, 05:25:04 PM »

You are right. It doesn’t put her in a good light. But, she didn’t receive any special treatment as many keep saying. Personally I think it’s much to do about nothing. If my parents had told me I was part Indian, I would probably believe them.

I was part Indian,, hunted with a bow. At least I identified with them  2funny 2funny
Hindu Indian or Sikh ?  Grin

I was going to ask computer indian or casino indian.

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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2018, 05:14:45 AM »

Well, I know one thing for sure.  My white male status kept me out of the one law school I had been preparing (and working hard to qualify for) for many years.  With help from the SCOTUS in Regents of the University of California v. Bakke, 438 U.S. 265 (1978).  I was informed as a white male, I would have to score in the top 2% of the LSAT admissions test (nationwide) to get in.  I scored pretty well, even came up 40 points the 2d time, but I could not make it to the top 2%.  My 3.79 GPA (and list of other achievements) was nice but irrelevant.

I should have claimed membership in the Hekawi nation.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYkUNuMD8pc



I too was descrimated against. I was working at a smaller PD and was a paid on call fire fighter. A large community in my area was going PSO. I was FF 3 certified and a certified police officer with 4 yrs road experience.

When I applied a Sgt and fire captain were taking the apts and doing on site app reviews. The Sgt asked to see me for a minute. When I met with him he told me: "your credentials are excellent"! I'm going to be perfectly honest with you.  There is only one problem.....you are a white male, you will never be hired. Really?  Yes sir he said, wrong gender and race. Really?  I left thinking I wasted a bunch of time just to be eliminated without a real interview, never did.

Back then you didn't sue at the drop of a hat and I didn't.  I happily spent my career in that smaller department as a road Sgt and eventually the fire chief of the same department my grandfather was chief of.  I'm now glad I stayed for the 26 yrs I was there. But, the circumstances why I didn't get hired at the perspective PSO department were bogus. If the same took place today, it would be massive problems for the hiring organization.
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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2018, 05:38:34 AM »

You are right. It doesn’t put her in a good light. But, she didn’t receive any special treatment as many keep saying. Personally I think it’s much to do about nothing. If my parents had told me I was part Indian, I would probably believe them.

I was part Indian,, hunted with a bow. At least I identified with them  2funny 2funny
Hindu Indian or Sikh ?  Grin

I was going to ask computer indian or casino indian.

-RP

woo, woo Indian or DOT Indian?
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2018, 07:03:22 AM »

Well, I know one thing for sure.  My white male status kept me out of the one law school I had been preparing (and working hard to qualify for) for many years.  With help from the SCOTUS in Regents of the University of California v. Bakke, 438 U.S. 265 (1978).  I was informed as a white male, I would have to score in the top 2% of the LSAT admissions test (nationwide) to get in.  I scored pretty well, even came up 40 points the 2d time, but I could not make it to the top 2%.  My 3.79 GPA (and list of other achievements) was nice but irrelevant.

I should have claimed membership in the Hekawi nation.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYkUNuMD8pc



I too was descrimated against. I was working at a smaller PD and was a paid on call fire fighter. A large community in my area was going PSO. I was FF 3 certified and a certified police officer with 4 yrs road experience.

When I applied a Sgt and fire captain were taking the apts and doing on site app reviews. The Sgt asked to see me for a minute. When I met with him he told me: "your credentials are excellent"! I'm going to be perfectly honest with you.  There is only one problem.....you are a white male, you will never be hired. Really?  Yes sir he said, wrong gender and race. Really?  I left thinking I wasted a bunch of time just to be eliminated without a real interview, never did.

Back then you didn't sue at the drop of a hat and I didn't.  I happily spent my career in that smaller department as a road Sgt and eventually the fire chief of the same department my grandfather was chief of.  I'm now glad I stayed for the 26 yrs I was there. But, the circumstances why I didn't get hired at the perspective PSO department were bogus. If the same took place today, it would be massive problems for the hiring organization.

Well, the school was the U of M, which BTW was one of the leading pushers of affirmative action in the nation in it's heyday (which was right when I was seeking admission).  I forgot to mention that a UM Board of Regents member lived two doors down from me and he was helpful, but could really do nothing for me.  

Affirmative action (when enforced correctly in accord with the Bakke decision) was the law of the land, and suing was a losing proposition (and my own very limited money).  So long as race was only one of many factors being consideredby university admissions (or whoever the hiring body was), and they did not use straight racial quotas, it was all nice and legal.  And you can bet the U of M had their ducks all nicely in a row on the subject.  

I had worked my tail off for 4 1/2 years to pull nearly straight A's (in the top ten of 1200), RA in the dorms for 3 years, worked with Gil Bursley in the Lansing Senate and our own Ypsi city manager, dorm president freshman year, served in student govt, and headed our university student legal services division (landlord tenant, small claims, and U disciplinary action defending students before the assist dean of students). To be rejected out of hand for being white was probably the greatest disappointment of my lifetime, at that time.

Of course, the quality of your education does not depend on the name of your school, but the amount of work you put in, and I did fine at Wayne State. (I also got in U's of KY and WVa, but working in the Detroit steel mills every summer made all the travel a problem, and then there was the matter of more expensive out-of-state tuition.)  But the name of your school had a lot to do with how well you did seeking employment after school.  And ironically, I had a number of incidents living in Detroit with the criminal element trying to steal my car and to kill me, but I guess that was also part of my well rounded education.  

At the time, I did not understand what a major part universities were taking in the socialization, dumbing down, and pussification of America.

And BTW, I had also applied to two police departments in the Detroit area at that time, and scored very well in testing and fitness (high enough to be in the running to get hired), but in the interviews they made it clear they didn't like a the idea of hiring a law student who couldn't be trusted to stay on the force.  At least that made sense.
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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2018, 07:18:45 AM »

...  And ironically, I had a number of incidents living in Detroit with the criminal element trying to steal my car and to kill me, but I guess that was also part of my well rounded education.  
...   

Just a curious question.  Was affirmative action able to address the car theft and killing attempts to be more racially and gender evenly distributed?
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« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2018, 07:22:24 AM »

...  And ironically, I had a number of incidents living in Detroit with the criminal element trying to steal my car and to kill me, but I guess that was also part of my well rounded education.  
...   

Just a curious question.  Was affirmative action able to address the car theft and killing attempts to be more racially and gender evenly distributed?

Why Carl, I never mentioned the race or gender of the perpetrators.  Roll Eyes

None were girls BTW. 
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