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Author Topic: Anyone from Philadelphia, Pa going to Inzane XVIII  (Read 5120 times)
msghughes
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« on: March 18, 2018, 04:42:58 PM »

I am thinking about attending this year, will be my first time.I want to see if anyone from the Philly area was heading down. I am one of those guys who read all of the post but never post.

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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2018, 06:11:42 PM »

What route you taking?
We will be taking 2 days from Ossining NY to Roanoke, definitely the scenic routes once we get past
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2018, 05:32:02 PM »

Have not lock in my route, when do you plan on heading down? I'm not sure how many days I will be there, the full week or a few days.

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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2018, 05:33:09 AM »

We are leaving Saturday, taking our time, this will be our longest trip ever on a motorcycle, just bought my bike a month ago. We wouldn't be the best to accompany you, we will be making plenty of stops, my wife is very nervous about this. Just wanted you to know, maybe we could meet up at the event, just staying Monday and Tuesday. Have fun.
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2018, 08:00:50 AM »

We are leaving Saturday, taking our time, this will be our longest trip ever on a motorcycle, just bought my bike a month ago. We wouldn't be the best to accompany you, we will be making plenty of stops, my wife is very nervous about this. Just wanted you to know, maybe we could meet up at the event, just staying Monday and Tuesday. Have fun.


I have no stake in this, but do not forget, when traveling a distance, there is definitely safety in numbers.  I don't mean 30 or even 15, but 3-5 is a good number.  Riding together, the cages always see you better and give you space, if any of the other riders have a back seater there is someone for your wife to talk to about the experience, and of course if there is any bike problem, you have help (and tools and knowledge) along the way.  Everyone does it different, but I like the rookie in back, with plenty of space, and then you don't have to worry about directions or turns, just follow the leader, so it's easier on you too.  Standards and tourers need gas every hundred miles or so, so plenty of stops.

I'm just sayin'.
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2018, 07:18:26 PM »

I do agree that riding in a group is the way to go. I will be heading out of Philly Monday morning, the 11th, leaving there on Thursday or Friday. My problem, no Valkyrie riders around here. I have a better chance of see Big Foot riding a Harley than another Valkyrie rider. I’m looking forward to spending time with like-minded, motorcyclist. I picked up my 2003  8 years ago, great road bike. Be safe, hope to meet you there.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2018, 04:12:06 PM »

Curious, going from Philly, would you go west on 76 to Harrisburg then down 81 or would you go south on I95?  I've never had any luck with traffic around Baltimore or DC.
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2018, 05:13:37 PM »

Curious, going from Philly, would you go west on 76 to Harrisburg then down 81 or would you go south on I95?  I've never had any luck with traffic around Baltimore or DC.

There is no luck to be had with Baltimore to DC traffic.  Maybe at 2-4AM.  

I have no exp around Philly, but I sure do with I-95 to Baltimore and south through VA, and it's all suck. With an easy side of bumper-to-bumper anywhere, anytime all the way to Richmond. 76 to 81 south is probably the longer route, and will certainly be busy in spots too, but it probably will never be bumper to bumper, or Talladega (racetrack) like 95.

I-81 through VA is owned by the VA state troopers, with local PDs near their own smaller town exits.  81 is a nice enough ride for freeway and lots of nice rolling hills.  Speeds vary with population centers from 55 to 70 (up and down) (so watch your signs).  

With only two lanes, and lots of semis, what the Troopers like to do is set up just over the crest of the taller hills.  So when the trucks all slow down going uphill, lots of people nail it up the hills to pass the trucks, crest the hills way over the limit, and get waived in for their performance awards (speeding tickets).  

When I do time and distance, I often look for a good steady cage driver at or a little over the limit and just pace him with a good safe following distance.  His brake lights are a good early warning system, and then just enjoy the ride.  Plenty of little gas stations and fast food right off the exits on your way down 81 (usually with tall signs).  

Lots of semi drivers are good steady drivers, but you never want to follow them for long or close, because every once in a while big honking chunks of tire come flying out from under them (road gators) and they can spoil your two wheel day.  And never spend time cruising next to them for the same reason.  Either stay back or pass with determination (then slow back down).

If you don't have a couple rain suits for you and the wife, get some (and pack them on top where they are easy to get to).  Put some cheapo Walmart bags in with them.  If you have to get off the bike and suit up quickly, you step your boots into the bags, and they slip right through the rain pants without tearing them out (or falling over jumping around trying).  I also always carry some tall kitchen bags which are great for putting your sweaty or soaking wet clothing in segregated from clean dry stuff.  One goes in the motel as the dirty clothes hamper.

I like 2 piece rain gear, 1 piece coveralls are always harder to put on, and rain gear can substitute for cold gear (tops or bottoms alone) on occasion.  I like Tourmaster, but others (Nelson Rig) are good too. The theory with rain gear size is always to get large enough to wear over the coldest weather riding gear you might ever wear.  It's no good if it's too tight to get over what you're wearing, and it NEVER looks good, so big floppy rain gear is the norm. It's always going on in a hurry, and big is easier to get on in a hurry.

Make sure your wife on the back has a visor on her helmet (or one to snap on).  Passengers often sit taller than riders given the seat stagger, and get more wind, bugs and rain in the face than drivers behind the shield.

You said you're bike is new to you and your wife is nervous, so don't take this advice as condescending, I'm just trying to help. When riding in to or off of gas pumps (or any tight parking lots, eateries, or other places), the thing to do is always let her off where it's easy, then do your tricky riding alone.  Let her off before the pump, and pick her back up leaving the station near the apron. There's no shame in this, and a happy non-scared wife leads to a nicer day.  Another thing, she never puts her leg down, until you tap her thigh saying it's OK.  You always get on the bike first, center it up with both legs down, then she steps to the near peg, with one hand on your shoulder and the other on the sissy or trunk, then steps up and slides the other leg across the seat and on.  Then, she gets off first while you hold the bike.

Happy motoring.

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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2018, 05:12:20 PM »

I am heading to Harrisburg on 76 West then to 81 South. Weather permitting, at some point dropping down and enjoying the Blue Ridge Parkway. I am not in a rush, I plan on enjoying the ride. I hope to be in the Harrisburg area around 10:00 on the 11th. Jess from VA offered good advice, I have found in my life to always plan for the worst and hope for the best.
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2018, 07:27:58 PM »

I am heading to Harrisburg on 76 West then to 81 South. Weather permitting, at some point dropping down and enjoying the Blue Ridge Parkway. I am not in a rush, I plan on enjoying the ride. I hope to be in the Harrisburg area around 10:00 on the 11th. Jess from VA offered good advice, I have found in my life to always plan for the worst and hope for the best.

Well, if DonnySJ isn't talking, I'll talk to you. Smiley

As you say, time and weather permitting, you may not know, but the top two exits of Blue Ridge Parkway (BRP) is National Park (technically called Skyline Drive, but really just the top of BRP), and you have to pay to get on in Front Royal VA (unless you have a Sr pass).  And those top two exits are beautiful and wonderful, but may add two hours riding time to the actual BRP.  I think cost is now up to $15 (even for bikes, and good for 2-3 days, but not a week).

Speed limit on Skyline Dr is 35, but BRP is 45, and not quite as windy-twisty (and not quite as much patrolled by National Park Police, who tend to do so in light beige SUVs, which are marked, but not much more than decals, and a bit tricky to spot) (their MO is to sit on the side down little paths or in the woods and get you with radar, and not active patrolling).  

So, to save a little money and time (and split the difference), you head down 81 South past Front Royal, exit onto 64 East around Staunton VA, run down a short hop, and get off around Rockfish Gap, to get on Mile Marker 1 of actual BRP, and take it all the way to Roanoke.  Of course it takes longer than staying on 81, but the BRP down to Roanoke is certainly a great ride, and it won't take all day.  Maybe actually only an hour or two more than 81, if you keep going and don't do many scenic turnouts.  And it's always a good idea to fill/top up (just) before getting on BRP, as gas can be a little tricky to find along that trail.  Another thing I've done, is stop and buy a sandwich/drink/chips, and had lunch on a scenic turnout.

One thing to remember, if it's raining (or likely to), the BRP can get a little (or a lot) foggy and hard (and sometimes impossible) to see, and deer and black bear are out all day on BRP (and it's better not to hit them).  I've taken BRP many times up and down, but often pass on rainy days because of fog (freeway is safer in rain).

Another little thing on BRP/Skyine Dr is that it is real easy to get behind grandad in his Winnebago doing 20 knots plonking along forever, and double yellow is the rule (often for miles and miles without end), not the exception.  That takes the fun out of the ride in no time.  Lots of times, riding the center line looking ahead, you can plainly see a flat and fairly level spot where the Valk can do an easy pass in about 2.5 seconds all safe as can be, but it's still double yellow, and you can get a big ticket (maybe even reckless) for passing on it.  I've done it a hundred times, but you want to make a good safe pass with no Park Police watching if at all possible.  On the other had, if you ride that center and hit your brights for awhile, grandad might get the message and take a scenic turnout, but he might never do it.  Just FYI.    

Here's a nice little site that gives the gas stations off BRP.  The thing is, there are lots of exits with gas close by, but you can rarely see the stations from the Parkway.  So you can get off and gas is right there over the hill, or a long ride away (esp way down farther South than you will be going).  So printing this out and having it with you is a capital idea.  The BRP mile markers are old concrete square posts sticking up about 18-24 inches (sometimes buried in the berm grass).

https://www.blueridgeparkway.org/gas-availability/

I may take this exact route myself, after blasting out I-66 out of Sodom on the Potomac to I-81 South; weather permitting (time should be no problem).

Note that the alternate GREY route on this map is NOT the BRP.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Rockfish+Gap,+Rockfish,+VA+22920/Roanoke,+Virginia/@37.6144292,-79.8585447,9z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b364a3adf44bc3:0x53c7b3847882596f!2m2!1d-78.8570978!2d38.0325489!1m5!1m1!1s0x884d0c4d6aa966fd:0x249dbecbdbb0989b!2m2!1d-79.9414266!2d37.2709704

Here we are at mile marker 0 at Rockfish Gap.

And double yellow, easy to pass on, if no one's watching.

If you wanted to, and had the time, you could I-81 home after Inzane, but run down 64 east, and pay and go up the Skyline drive on the way home, then just hop back on 81 in Front Royal.  Just a thought.
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2018, 05:37:46 PM »

Thanks Jess for the detail info, always good to get a local’s insight. I will continue to plan my trip, keeping in mind your helpful tips. I’m looking for the best point for me to drop into the BRP on my way to Roanoke. So far your instructions on where to pick up the BRP looks good.
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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2018, 08:59:12 PM »

Looks like the best place to get off the BRP into Roanoke is 460 South (becomes 220 South), to 581 North, exit 3 West to Hershberger Rd, right on Ordway Dr (for 30 feet), right on Frontage Rd NW.  (look for sign)

The exit at the Hotel looks convoluted.  

I don't live down there you know.  I'll be as lost as you.
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2018, 10:07:43 AM »

More great advice from Jess!! Thank you very much!! I am taking notes!
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2018, 07:48:39 PM »

Once on the road try to  call my wife's cell 914 522 four 221 as I will not answer on the road

But I will have my cell on for texting is 914 522 zero083 and will check it at gas stops

We will leave Sat morning. If forecast reveals heavy thunderstorms we may leave later  We plan to stop near Winchester or Front Royal depending on the weather.

Like Jess said BRP in thunderstorms and fog sucks big time. I've done it in rain and fog 2 up pulling a trailer and wont do it again.  The idea is for the wife to enjoy the ride, not to win a race or spend all day in the saddle (even if its a Russell)
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2018, 06:58:18 PM »

I plan to leave Philadelphia between 6 and 7 on Monday. Considering stopping for gas & traffic, I should be in Winchester around 11:00. My Cell is (267) 243-9548, maybe I’ll see you on the road. If we don’t meet up, I'll look forward to meeting you and your wife in Roanoke. Weather calling for 50% chance for rain Sat & Sun, stay dry.
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