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Author Topic: a tire "buying" experience  (Read 2880 times)
Earl in Pensacola
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« on: November 03, 2009, 09:07:47 AM »

I've decided to go over to the "darkside" with a 205/65R16  Goodyear Assurance @ $109.95 delivered.  The "experience" I speak of is that none of the local business had that size in stock AND their prices ran from $35 to $45. higher!  I decided to order on-line to get the $109.95 delivered price.  Part of the ordering info requested (besides the card # and address etc.) was the year, make and model of the vehicle.  When I said that it was for a motorcycle, the saleman canceled the order!!  I then told him it was for a trailer and his response was," These calls are recorded and the company doesn't not want to be involved in a liability suit and you've already told me it is for a motorcycle."  So, I called another company and placed the order, but answered the question with, "It's for my trailer." The tire should arrive by Friday!  This just a little "tip" to get your order completed at the best price possible.
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2009, 01:10:32 PM »

I PURCHASED ONE ONLINE ONE TIME AND MADE UP A MAKE AND EVERTHING AND THEN THEY CALLED TO MAKE SURE THE VEHICLE WAS CORRECT.  I HAD TO TELL THEM WHY I WANTED JUST ONE TIRE. 

THANKS FOR THE TIP.

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 01:49:32 PM »

Couldn't you just say it was for your trike?
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 07:39:23 PM »

Congrats Earl.   cooldude  I just did mine this past weekend and I couldn't be happier.  You can read my thoughts in the Sandbox (General Board).  I'm just waiting for my cookie and DS #.
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2009, 07:21:02 AM »

With some of the reports on this forum regarding problems associated with employing the 65 profile tire I am curious why you chose this tire as a first choice.

Myself, I got a 55 series tire and had to do the nut cage removal.

The next tire will be a 60 series to get more closely to the stock drive ratio.

Your 65 series will be taller yet.

What are you anticipated results?

Just askin'

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 08:04:34 AM »

Hey Ricky, just a bit of info. I have the 65 on mine and found it matched the Avon tire almost exactly. The RPM's lowered when at speed only maybe 25 to 50. Fit great and only had to do the normal nutcage mod. Mine is a 205/65
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2009, 09:31:18 AM »

Mounted a 205/65 with only the nutcage mod.  No problem!  Spedo registers 68 mph at 3,000 rpm with the same ratio at higher mph/rpm.  May have picked up a 2 or 3 mpg also.  Completely satisfied...JTL
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2009, 09:43:29 AM »

I've decided to go over to the "darkside" with a 205/65R16  Goodyear Assurance @ $109.95 delivered.  The "experience" I speak of is that none of the local business had that size in stock AND their prices ran from $35 to $45. higher!  I decided to order on-line to get the $109.95 delivered price.  Part of the ordering info requested (besides the card # and address etc.) was the year, make and model of the vehicle.  When I said that it was for a motorcycle, the saleman canceled the order!!  I then told him it was for a trailer and his response was," These calls are recorded and the company doesn't not want to be involved in a liability suit and you've already told me it is for a motorcycle."  So, I called another company and placed the order, but answered the question with, "It's for my trailer." The tire should arrive by Friday!  This just a little "tip" to get your order completed at the best price possible.

Had a similar issue only involved warranty. Bought the tire at the dealer, they were aware it was for my bike and had it mounted at a bike shop. Got 1/2 a 5/16 wrench stuck in the outer tread a week later and took it back for warranty. Because it was on the bike they were trying to get out of the warranty, if I had told them it was on a trailer or the car no problem. To the dealers credit with my strong insistence he stood behind the warranty.   Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2009, 03:22:43 PM »

With some of the reports on this forum regarding problems associated with employing the 65 profile tire I am curious why you chose this tire as a first choice.

Myself, I got a 55 series tire and had to do the nut cage removal.

The next tire will be a 60 series to get more closely to the stock drive ratio.

Your 65 series will be taller yet.

What are you anticipated results?

Just askin'

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taller is not an issue the issue is going too wide i run a 205/65/16 on mine and a 195/55/16 on the wife's interstate.. cage nut mod on mine no mods on the is
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 12:20:25 PM »

I have the 205/60 with no mods and I ride two up alot, no rubbing or problems. I got mine from the Goodyear store and the manager was a HD rider, he asked me to come back and show him once I got it on. I had more of a problem getting it mounted, I finally took it to a small motorcycle repair shop andtold them it was for a trike and they mounted it.
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2009, 11:35:39 AM »

Hey Ricky, just a bit of info. I have the 65 on mine and found it matched the Avon tire almost exactly. The RPM's lowered when at speed only maybe 25 to 50. Fit great and only had to do the normal nutcage mod. Mine is a 205/65

Yeah, I know Scott. The numbers that the manufacturers use for tire sizes are not so accurate nor reliable for detail comparison.  I am sure Avon like all other M/C tire manufacturers are generally similar but not the same in size figures.  Some manufacturers publish the specifications of their tire and the OEM tire for your bike was a Dunlop Elite which just might be at the large end of the scale. I have had a Metzler that was the same numerical tire size but in reality was a considerable amount smaller that the OEM Dunlop. I'm sure automobile tires are the same mismash.

I'm using a 205/55/16 now and had to do the nut cage bit and I get a little rubbing on whoopdeedo's when two up.  A taller tire like a 60 series or a 65 series will cause me to do more modifying I am sure but like I said I want to get closer to stock rpm's so the next will be a 60 series.

I think the width is important and accept the 205 is basically the same width regardless of profile, and my feeling is that the taller tire simple moves the wide part of the tire closer to swingarm and places where rubbing could be a trouble.

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Earl in Pensacola
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2009, 06:13:53 PM »

The tire arrived and boy does it look wide  (205/65R16).  It measures about 1 inch wider thru the cross section than the Dunlop that is on there now.  I'm having the tire mounted this Monday, along with new bearings, seal and spacer.  At this point, I don't  plan to do the "nut cage mod.",  Why?  Because I have Progressive #416 air shocks and I'm sure that will they lift the bike more than enough to clear all the fender underside.  It appears that I have a little more than the 3/4 inch on each side of the Dunlop that is on there now to accommodate the needed 1/2 inch on each side needed for the  new bigger tire.  Hope!!  Hope!! 
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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2009, 04:33:25 AM »

Every Valk/DS tire combination is different.  Where some can only get a couple of business cards between the tire sidewall and driveshaft tube, I can slide an 8mm allen wrench in the gap.  I'm running the Toyo Proxes TPT 205/65HR16.  When I installed it last Sunday, I removed the nutcages and pushed it as high in the fender as I could.  There were no obvious interference indications and, after 700 miles, there are no signs of rubbing.  Good Luck Earl

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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2009, 11:23:14 AM »

... At this point, I don't  plan to do the "nut cage mod.",  Why? 

Remove the nut cage while you have the fender empty.  It's easier to do with an empty fender and the nut cage serves no legitimate purpose other than making it difficult for you to line up the nut when you put it back on.
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