Valkorado
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« on: June 13, 2018, 06:30:13 PM » |
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Installing some new grips, and cussing because I can't get enough leeway in the push/pull throttle cable using the minor cable adjustment nut to install the new sleeve. Is the under tank major throttle adjustment my only other option? If so will lifting the tank and sliding a 2x4 underneath give me enough room to get to that adjustment bolt, or am I going to have to pull the tank all the way off? I destroyed the old throttle grip and sleeve getting it off, BTW.
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« Last Edit: June 13, 2018, 08:52:19 PM by Valkorado »
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2018, 07:21:28 PM » |
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If you unbolt the tank to lift it up, you may as well remove it to avoid damaging the fuel line. I have used the method you mentioned, but was always worried about the tank slipping off the 2x4.
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Valkorado
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2018, 08:24:24 PM » |
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If you unbolt the tank to lift it up, you may as well remove it to avoid damaging the fuel line. I have used the method you mentioned, but was always worried about the tank slipping off the 2x4.
Don't particularly enjoy that method either, but I would rather not have to yank the tank just to install a %&#¡¿! throttle grip if I don't have to. |
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2018, 02:18:50 AM » |
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With padding on the tank can you loosen the bars and slide them to the side giving you the slack you need?
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Valkorado
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2018, 04:28:03 AM » |
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With padding on the tank can you loosen the bars and slide them to the side giving you the slack you need?
Hmmm. Maybe, thanks for the ideer. I'll look later. I should have left the OEM sleeve on.  Damn!  |
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Valkorado
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2018, 07:00:45 AM » |
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Lifted the tank, and have been messing with the major throttle cable adjustment. And, I still can't get enough slack. I have rediscovered what I already knew. THE WORST KIND OF PISSED OFF IS BEING PISSED OFF AT YOURSELF!!!
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2018, 07:06:31 AM » |
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With padding on the tank can you loosen the bars and slide them to the side giving you the slack you need?
That does nothing to allow more cable to extend outside the cable sleeve. The only way to get enough slack to seat the cable ends in the throttle sleeve is to create slack at the carburetor end of the cables. I can't remember off the top of my head how high the tank needs to be to access the nuts. I do remember that having TWO 10mm wrenches helps loosen/tighten the nuts. Lifted the tank, and have been messing with the major throttle cable adjustment. And, I still can't get enough slack. I have rediscovered what I already knew. THE WORST KIND OF PISSED OFF IS BEING PISSED OFF AT YOURSELF!!!
Remember, there are TWO cables that can be loosened or detached at the bottom end. |
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Valkorado
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2018, 10:20:25 AM » |
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With padding on the tank can you loosen the bars and slide them to the side giving you the slack you need?
That does nothing to allow more cable to extend outside the cable sleeve. The only way to get enough slack to seat the cable ends in the throttle sleeve is to create slack at the carburetor end of the cables. I can't remember off the top of my head how high the tank needs to be to access the nuts. I do remember that having TWO 10mm wrenches helps loosen/tighten the nuts. That seems to be the case, as I was just out trying this and moving the bars didn't help at all. I am really kicking myself.  Note to self. If it ain't broke don't try to fix it! Note to others. If you're installing a new throttle grip, use the OEM grip sleeve! |
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2018, 01:55:16 PM » |
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I just installed new OEM grips not to long ago and ran into the same problem. Unbolt the tank and stuff a rag under the right side to give you some room to work, you don’t need to disconnect anything. I had to loosen the cables at the carburetor linkage and at the handlebars to get enough slack to get the grip on. I took the cables completely loose at the carb linkage. Probably didn’t need to but I got tired of fighting it.
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Bob D
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2018, 02:00:39 PM » |
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One other thing, when you get everything back on, test the adjustment by rolling the throttle and letting go. If it doesn’t “snap” back, it’s not adjusted properly. I had to play with the adjustment at the carbs a bit to get it right.
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Valkorado
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2018, 03:11:03 PM » |
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Thanks for all the replies. Bob, that's the technique I've been trying but still no cigar. Hope I haven't bent those push/pull cables too much already. Haven't taken the cables all the way off on the carb side yet.
Had to walk away from it for awhile, my patience was wearing thin.
Oh, boy! I tried taking the cables off on carb side. Apparently the one in front that had a wire in it is an oil sensor, cause now when I turn on the key the oil light stays on. working again. Gryphon Rider, where is the second throttle adjustment cable on the carb side?
I may just wait on Big BF to do things right before I break anything else!
Riding makes me happy. Wrenching, not so much.
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2018, 04:32:05 PM » |
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I hear ya regarding the frustration. After several attempts one evening I said the heck with it and went back in the house....started fresh the next morning and for whatever reason, everything just fell into place. As long as I knew it was going to sit over night, I oiled the cables so it had time to seep down. You’ll get it, don’t give up!!!!
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2018, 07:58:29 AM » |
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First, create slack at the bottom end of the inner throttle cable by spinning up the lock nut, then turning the adjuster fully down. The outer throttle cable fitting can then be turned up, creating space between the bracket and the nut under the bracket. You can then remove the outer cable from its bracket, creating slack in the cable. See photo:  |
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Valkorado
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2018, 09:45:18 AM » |
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I'm back in business. It was by utilizing a combination of everyone's suggestions, including moving the bars - - I tried it again this morning and it did help. I ordered some used (15,000 miles) cables that I may have Big BF install this summer as I really tweaked one of the push/pull throttle connections. Still it is working, and snapping back well when I release the throttle! Waiting for the glue to hold. Thanks again!  |
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2018, 11:44:11 AM » |
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Installing some new grips, and cussing because I can't get enough leeway in the push/pull throttle cable using the minor cable adjustment nut to install the new sleeve. Is the under tank major throttle adjustment my only other option? If so will lifting the tank and sliding a 2x4 underneath give me enough room to get to that adjustment bolt, or am I going to have to pull the tank all the way off? I destroyed the old throttle grip and sleeve getting it off, BTW.
Leave the tank alone. Dismount the handlebar and you can move it left to where there is enough slack. |
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