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« on: August 30, 2018, 06:07:41 AM » |
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Good Day! The temperature light on my 1998 1500CT does not work plus I think my bike is running a little hot as the fan comes on from time to time even when I'm riding.Yes its hot here in Costa Rica, but I still think this is not normal. I'm be in the US next week and was planning on purchasing a temperature guage and thermostat. I'm look for suggestion on any other parts I should have on hand before I start this job.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2018, 06:44:17 AM » |
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Good Day! The temperature light on my 1998 1500CT does not work plus I think my bike is running a little hot as the fan comes on from time to time even when I'm riding.Yes its hot here in Costa Rica, but I still think this is not normal. I'm be in the US next week and was planning on purchasing a temperature guage and thermostat. I'm look for suggestion on any other parts I should have on hand before I start this job.
How did you determine the temp light doesn't work? I have had my 97 STD for over 16 years here in FL and they get hot in the summer. I have never seen the temp light come on. |
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2018, 07:24:47 AM » |
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Good Day! The temperature light on my 1998 1500CT does not work plus I think my bike is running a little hot as the fan comes on from time to time even when I'm riding.Yes its hot here in Costa Rica, but I still think this is not normal. I'm be in the US next week and was planning on purchasing a temperature guage and thermostat. I'm look for suggestion on any other parts I should have on hand before I start this job.
How did you determine the temp light doesn't work? I have had my 97 STD for over 16 years here in FL and they get hot in the summer. I have never seen the temp light come on. Don't they come on for a few seconds when first started ? If Tuanis isn't doing that maybe his bulb is burned out. My fan comes on occasionally when riding in traffic. The light isn't supposed to come on when it does this. It should only come on when it gets too hot. |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2018, 08:15:26 AM » |
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Don't they come on for a few seconds when first started ? No, they don't, not on a standard or tourer anyway. Maybe on the IS I dont know. |
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2018, 08:53:37 AM » |
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It sounds like your bike is normal. But if you really want to change the stat, be sure to get the special gasket for it.
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Tuanis
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2018, 12:37:48 PM » |
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Ok! I read in Clymer manual that the oil and temperature should come on when the ignition in before the motor is started.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2018, 12:41:21 PM » |
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Ok! I read in Clymer manual that the oil and temperature should come on when the ignition in before the motor is started.
What does that Clymer dude know. My temp light has never come on and the bike was almost new when I bought it. Now I have two bikes that were born as standards and neither temp light comes on at ignition. I guess both mine are burnt out   |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2018, 01:22:29 PM » |
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Ok! I read in Clymer manual that the oil and temperature should come on when the ignition in before the motor is started.
I checked the Clymer manual. It's very ambiguous the way it's written but it does not say the temp light should come on. It says to make sure it's operating properly but then it never says what proper operation is. In the HONDA manual it is more clear. "Turn the ignition switch ON. The side stand indicator and oil pressure indicator should come on". It says to check for problems if the the temp light comes on with the ignition. |
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2018, 01:38:00 PM » |
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Yes, the temp light comes on for about a second when the key is turned on, regardless if engine is started.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2018, 01:39:47 PM » |
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Yes, the temp light comes on for about a second when the key is turned on, regardless if engine is started.
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Ya I figured the IS would be different. Thanks for the clarification. |
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2018, 02:02:48 PM » |
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Yes, the temp light comes on for about a second when the key is turned on, regardless if engine is started.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2018, 06:09:59 AM » |
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This is a shot from when I changed the meter lights to LED. You can see that the spot where where the temp light resides is all dark.  |
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2018, 07:46:32 PM » |
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'98 Tourer. Overtemp light does not come on at startup. Mine flickers some when the water temperature gauge is reading 225* or so, which it does when stopped at a light after a freeway ride during the dead of summer (110*+ in the shade, roadways are considerably warmer)
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2018, 07:37:59 AM » |
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Don't they come on for a few seconds when first started ? No, they don't, not on a standard or tourer anyway. Maybe on the IS I dont know. They're supposed to - as a system check. If not, the temp light module is faulty. |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2018, 08:16:55 AM » |
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Don't they come on for a few seconds when first started ? No, they don't, not on a standard or tourer anyway. Maybe on the IS I dont know. They're supposed to - as a system check. If not, the temp light module is faulty. Just the opposite. The Honda manual says if the coolant temp indicator comes on with the ignition its a problem. pp 19-7 Only the sidestand and oil pressure lights should come on with the ignition |
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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2018, 08:48:44 AM » |
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Don't they come on for a few seconds when first started ? No, they don't, not on a standard or tourer anyway. Maybe on the IS I dont know. They're supposed to - as a system check. If not, the temp light module is faulty. Just the opposite. The Honda manual says if the coolant temp indicator comes on with the ignition its a problem. pp 19-7 Only the sidestand and oil pressure lights should come on with the ignition From the 1997-2001 Service Manual, Section 19-11: "The indicator comes on when the ignition switch is turned ON" My I/S's temp light does. My '99 Tourer's doesn't at present...faulty temp indicator unit. |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2018, 10:34:23 AM » |
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Don't they come on for a few seconds when first started ? No, they don't, not on a standard or tourer anyway. Maybe on the IS I dont know. They're supposed to - as a system check. If not, the temp light module is faulty. Just the opposite. The Honda manual says if the coolant temp indicator comes on with the ignition its a problem. pp 19-7 Only the sidestand and oil pressure lights should come on with the ignition From the 1997-2001 Service Manual, Section 19-11: "The indicator comes on when the ignition switch is turned ON" My I/S's temp light does. My '99 Tourer's doesn't at present...faulty temp indicator unit. pp 19-11 talks about the Fan Motor Switch...not the temp light at all. |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2018, 10:42:19 AM » |
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My '99 Tourer's doesn't at present...faulty temp indicator unit. Before you waste your time and money do a POLL see how many people with Standard or Tourer bikes confirm after turning on the key and checking (not by memory because they think it was on) that the coolant temp indicator is on with the ignition. I think nothing is wrong with your Tourer's indicator unit. |
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2018, 11:34:25 AM » |
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(snip) pp 19-11 talks about the Fan Motor Switch...not the temp light at all.
Which version of the Manual are you reading from? As remarked earlier, mine's the 1997-2001 version...date of issue: Dec. 1998. Page 19-11 deals specifically with the Coolant Temperature Indicator. |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2018, 12:03:08 PM » |
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(snip) pp 19-11 talks about the Fan Motor Switch...not the temp light at all.
Which version of the Manual are you reading from? As remarked earlier, mine's the 1997-2001 version...date of issue: Dec. 1998. Page 19-11 deals specifically with the Coolant Temperature Indicator. Mine is the 1997 manual released in 1996. Maybe after a certain date, when they did make some changes to the coolant system then the lights come on. Would be interesting to see some later model owners pipe up and confirm that theirs are supposed to come on with the ignition. If that's the case Id bet money yours falls into the older category where the light doesn't come on. Many changes to the standard Valkyrie were made around 2000-2001 |
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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2018, 12:22:25 PM » |
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01 Standard. Light does NOT come on with key. Only when overheated. My year manual confirms this. 2000--up standards/tourers should be the same.
I know the I-state is different, and I suspect the 97...that had a coolant module thingy...is different. I don't know about the 98/99.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2018, 12:28:13 PM » |
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01 Standard. Light does NOT come on with key. Only when overheated. My year manual confirms this. 2000--up standards/tourers should be the same.
I know the I-state is different, and I suspect the 97...that had a coolant module thingy...is different. I don't know about the 98/99.
Well then I suppose that confirms that 97 and 2000-2003 stay OFF. Mine is a 97 (both) and neither come on, and the 97 year specific manual says they dont come on. Would be strange for just the 98 and 99 to be different but we'll see if a 98 and/or 99 owner pipes up. |
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2018, 04:26:32 AM » |
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99 tourer mine does not come on with key, only flickers once in a while, so I know it works. Does not over heat, just flickers sometimes. Fan comes on and works fine also.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2018, 04:36:03 AM » |
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Ok.... thanks 99, that makes 99.99% sure no standard or tourer should have the temp light on with ignition.
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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2018, 07:06:36 AM » |
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From the Book:
COOLANT TEMPERATURE INDICATOR
INSPECTION
The indicator comes on when the ignition switch is turned
ON
Remove the rad~ator( page 6-71,
D~sconnect the thermosensor (Afrer '99: thermostatic
sw~tch)c onnector
Turn the ignitron sw~tchO N and check the ind~cator.
After '99 GL1503CJCT:
* If the indicator does not come on, replace the thermostatic
switch.
If the indicator comes on, check for short circuit in the
green/blue or Ilght green/btack wire between the thermostatic
switch and tachometer 9P connector. If the wire 1s
OK, replace the tachometer assembly (page 79-71
'97-99 GLI 5002/CT:
If the Indicator does not come on, check the therrnosensor
(page 19-1 2). If the thermosensor 1s OK, replace t h e
coolant temperature ~ndicatoru nit
If the indrcator comes on, check as follows:
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Remove the rad~afor reserve tank without disconnect~ng
the slphon tube (page 6-6). D~sconnectth e 2P connector
from the coolait temperature indicator unit. Turn the ignition
switch ON and check the indicator
- If the indicator does not come on, repair the short circuit in
green/blue wirs between the ind~cator unit 2P connector
and thermosensor.
- If the indicator comes on, check as follows:
Disconnect the 4P connector from the indicator unlt.
Turn the ignit~ons w~tchO N and check the indicator.
If the rnd~cator does not come on, replace the ndlcator
Unit
If the ~ndicarorc omes on, checkfor short circuit In the light
greenlblack wire between the tachometer 9P connector
and indicator unit 4P connector. If the llght green/black
wlre is OK, replace the tachometer assembly (page 19-7).
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2018, 10:31:43 AM » |
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From the Book:
COOLANT TEMPERATURE INDICATOR
INSPECTION
The indicator comes on when the ignition switch is turned
ON
Remove the rad~ator( page 6-71,
D~sconnect the thermosensor (Afrer '99: thermostatic
sw~tch)c onnector
Turn the ignitron sw~tchO N and check the ind~cator.
After '99 GL1503CJCT:
* If the indicator does not come on, replace the thermostatic
switch.
If the indicator comes on, check for short circuit in the
green/blue or Ilght green/btack wire between the thermostatic
switch and tachometer 9P connector. If the wire 1s
OK, replace the tachometer assembly (page 79-71
'97-99 GLI 5002/CT:
If the Indicator does not come on, check the therrnosensor
(page 19-1 2). If the thermosensor 1s OK, replace t h e
coolant temperature ~ndicatoru nit
If the indrcator comes on, check as follows:
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Remove the rad~afor reserve tank without disconnect~ng
the slphon tube (page 6-6). D~sconnectth e 2P connector
from the coolait temperature indicator unit. Turn the ignition
switch ON and check the indicator
- If the indicator does not come on, repair the short circuit in
green/blue wirs between the ind~cator unit 2P connector
and thermosensor.
- If the indicator comes on, check as follows:
Disconnect the 4P connector from the indicator unlt.
Turn the ignit~ons w~tchO N and check the indicator.
If the rnd~cator does not come on, replace the ndlcator
Unit
If the ~ndicarorc omes on, checkfor short circuit In the light
greenlblack wire between the tachometer 9P connector
and indicator unit 4P connector. If the llght green/black
wlre is OK, replace the tachometer assembly (page 19-7).
The Coolant Temp Indicator comes on for the IS with the ignition, not for the standard or tourer period, done. |
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