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Author Topic: Argh! Pretty sure I stripped my drive shaft...  (Read 1330 times)
PSUbag
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« on: September 02, 2018, 04:29:43 PM »

'98 Standard, 150,000 miles. Luckily I got her close to home. I only had to push her about 4 blocks. I'm getting ready to start researching the archives for info, but if anyone has any quick tips on where to get parts, what all parts I'll need, etc..., I'd appreciate it. I'm going to wait til morning to tear into it. I've had the shaft out a few times to lube so I think I'll be alright there, but I'm assuming the "cup" that it goes into will probably need replaced too. I bought her brand new in 2000 (How nobody bought her for 2 years is beyond me) and the only other "major" thing was the rivets in the top clutch plate at about 100,000 miles.  Any tips or help appreciated!

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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2018, 04:39:03 PM »


Pull it apart first to make sure you know what is busted.

Hopefully it's just the drive shaft and the pinion cup. Probably
get a new seal for the drive shaft.

-Mike
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2018, 08:49:40 PM »

There are so many posts about pinion cup, search will find them. Most are older and the pictures are gone, but I know there was one in the last 3 months or so.

Here is one.

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,53895.0.html

Parts, wait till you know what you need, shipping doesn't take too long. I like procaliber.com out of WA. Search too for the best prices. I get the online price, then go to my local dealer and have them try to match the price, shop local if you can.
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2018, 08:59:51 AM »

UPDATE

Got her apart and the pinion cup (or joint, according to Clymer) and drive shaft on that end are toast. The nut holding the cup on, does it require a special tool or anything? ** Never mind, I found a good thread discussing this.

Last (hopefully!) question. Where would you guys recommend buying parts? And what should I expect to pay for a driveshaft, pinion cup and the seal?

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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2018, 09:07:56 AM »


There's three degrees of freedom on that pinion cup nut. You try to take
the nut off but the splines spin. You figure out out to keep the splines from
spinning and the whole final drive rotates.  I made this
overly complex holder that allowed me to take the nut off and use
a torque wrench to put it back on:



You can br-r-r-r-p the nut off with an air wrench and put it back on the same way.
A friend of mine did that for me a long time ago, when he put it back on that way
he got it really tight. So tight that when I tried to use my holder to take it
off, my holder busted to flinders before I got it off.

-Mike
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2018, 11:14:26 AM »

That's pretty cool!  cooldude

Got the nut off with the air wrench, now need to get busy finding parts.  Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2018, 06:19:01 PM »

I have a possibly "dumb" question. When I took the drive shaft apart, the oil seal was loose. It looked to me that it might be in backwards. The beveled end was towards the u-joint side. Is that the way it goes? Looks to me like the beveled side should go towards the pinion cup.  Undecided
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2018, 06:25:10 PM »

I have a possibly "dumb" question. When I took the drive shaft apart, the oil seal was loose. It looked to me that it might be in backwards. The beveled end was towards the u-joint side. Is that the way it goes? Looks to me like the beveled side should go towards the pinion cup.  Undecided

Once inserted you should see flat not the groove and the spring
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2018, 06:35:34 PM »

I have a possibly "dumb" question. When I took the drive shaft apart, the oil seal was loose. It looked to me that it might be in backwards. The beveled end was towards the u-joint side. Is that the way it goes? Looks to me like the beveled side should go towards the pinion cup.  Undecided

Once inserted you should see flat not the groove and the spring

Thanks Chris, but I'm still confused. The seal goes into the pinion cup, right? The spring is on the u-joint side. Which way does the beveled side go?
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2018, 06:46:04 PM »

I have a possibly "dumb" question. When I took the drive shaft apart, the oil seal was loose. It looked to me that it might be in backwards. The beveled end was towards the u-joint side. Is that the way it goes? Looks to me like the beveled side should go towards the pinion cup.  Undecided

Once inserted you should see flat not the groove and the spring

Thanks Chris, but I'm still confused. The seal goes into the pinion cup, right? The spring is on the u-joint side. Which way does the beveled side go?

The spring that is part of the seal faces the rear. 
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2018, 06:47:01 PM »

I have a possibly "dumb" question. When I took the drive shaft apart, the oil seal was loose. It looked to me that it might be in backwards. The beveled end was towards the u-joint side. Is that the way it goes? Looks to me like the beveled side should go towards the pinion cup.  Undecided

Once inserted you should see flat not the groove and the spring

Thanks Chris, but I'm still confused. The seal goes into the pinion cup, right? The spring is on the u-joint side. Which way does the beveled side go?
windows screen capture
This side is going to face the ujoint.

how to do a screen shot
This side is going to face the pinion cup.
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2018, 07:04:47 PM »

Thanks guys! Mine was in backwards! Might have contributed to the failure. I have to plead ignorance though, I thought that end of the drive shaft was lubed by the oil in the pumpkin.  uglystupid2 It was a dry rusty mess.  Undecided
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2018, 07:06:55 PM »

I have a possibly "dumb" question. When I took the drive shaft apart, the oil seal was loose. It looked to me that it might be in backwards. The beveled end was towards the u-joint side. Is that the way it goes? Looks to me like the beveled side should go towards the pinion cup.  Undecided

Once inserted you should see flat not the groove and the spring

Thanks Chris, but I'm still confused. The seal goes into the pinion cup, right? The spring is on the u-joint side. Which way does the beveled side go?

The spring that is part of the seal faces the rear. 

I forgot that there's an actual spring in the seal, lol. My bad. uglystupid2
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2018, 07:15:25 PM »

I have a possibly "dumb" question. When I took the drive shaft apart, the oil seal was loose. It looked to me that it might be in backwards. The beveled end was towards the u-joint side. Is that the way it goes? Looks to me like the beveled side should go towards the pinion cup.  Undecided

Once inserted you should see flat not the groove and the spring

Thanks Chris, but I'm still confused. The seal goes into the pinion cup, right? The spring is on the u-joint side. Which way does the beveled side go?
windows screen capture
This side is going to face the ujoint.

how to do a screen shot
This side is going to face the pinion cup.


Thank you sir!
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2018, 07:22:08 PM »

 cooldude my pleasure
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