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Just heard a Democrat on the committee say that if K is confirmed, every decision the Supreme Court makes from now on should be suspect and in question.
That's it. They have effectively negated the supreme court. They will march and protest every decision that doesn't go their way and discredit the court as they are doing with the presidency.
After the midterms, when the Republicans maintain control, they will discredit the election and therefore the house of representatives.
Make way for a new gov't. After they have discredited all 3 branches, they will have support to take it to the next step.............
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Just heard a Democrat on the committee say that if K is confirmed, every decision the Supreme Court makes from now on should be suspect and in question.
That's it. They have effectively negated the supreme court. They will march and protest every decision that doesn't go their way and discredit the court as they are doing with the presidency.
After the midterms, when the Republicans maintain control, they will discredit the election and therefore the house of representatives.
Make way for a new gov't. After they have discredited all 3 branches, they will have support to take it to the next step.............
Does that mean we FINALLY get to use our 2nd amendment and overthrow the government?
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Just heard a Democrat on the committee say that if K is confirmed, every decision the Supreme Court makes from now on should be suspect and in question.
That's it. They have effectively negated the supreme court. They will march and protest every decision that doesn't go their way and discredit the court as they are doing with the presidency.
After the midterms, when the Republicans maintain control, they will discredit the election and therefore the house of representatives.
Make way for a new gov't. After they have discredited all 3 branches, they will have support to take it to the next step.............
Does that mean we FINALLY get to use our 2nd amendment and overthrow the government? Exactly the opposite. You'll be defending the gov't because the other side will have negated all 3 branches and will uprise.
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Just heard a Democrat on the committee say that if K is confirmed, every decision the Supreme Court makes from now on should be suspect and in question.
That's it. They have effectively negated the supreme court. They will march and protest every decision that doesn't go their way and discredit the court as they are doing with the presidency.
After the midterms, when the Republicans maintain control, they will discredit the election and therefore the house of representatives.
Make way for a new gov't. After they have discredited all 3 branches, they will have support to take it to the next step.............
Does that mean we FINALLY get to use our 2nd amendment and overthrow the government? Exactly the opposite. You'll be defending the gov't because the other side will have negated all 3 branches and will uprise. That is the funny part. These morons keep saying they are going to revolt. With what? We (conservative"s) have the majority of the guns. Bring it morons............
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They keep saying her story is corroborated. The "corroboration" they site is the woman, herself, telling other people at different times throughout her adult life. That's it.
They also said that at those times, she would say that he was a prominent lawyer or a federal judge. In my opinion, she was following this guy. She knew of his positions and accomplishments for quite some time because she would bring them up when talking of her supposed past.
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« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2018, 09:59:12 AM » |
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I see him getting confirmed and the Republicans getting the super majority in the house. Us conservatives are sick and tired of the bullshit the dems are pulling. Vote them all out and abolish their party all together.
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And Flake Flaked.... What a surprise...
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Some Dims are already talking impeachment.
Desperate and terrified.
Remember all the Dem talk that Trump might not accept loosing the election? Funny who Karma put that shoe on.
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Just heard a Democrat on the committee say that if K is confirmed, every decision the Supreme Court makes from now on should be suspect and in question.
That's it. They have effectively negated the supreme court. They will march and protest every decision that doesn't go their way and discredit the court as they are doing with the presidency.
After the midterms, when the Republicans maintain control, they will discredit the election and therefore the house of representatives.
Make way for a new gov't. After they have discredited all 3 branches, they will have support to take it to the next step.............
Does that mean we FINALLY get to use our 2nd amendment and overthrow the government? Exactly the opposite. You'll be defending the gov't because the other side will have negated all 3 branches and will uprise. That is the funny part. These morons keep saying they are going to revolt. With what? We (conservative"s) have the majority of the guns. Bring it morons............  Dan
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« Reply #52 on: September 28, 2018, 11:13:25 AM » |
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And Flake Flaked.... What a surprise...
You Arizonans managed to get rid of one RINO, now need to get rid of this one too... What an embarrassment.
He's a lame duck. He is not running for re-election. There is a tight race for his replacement between McSally and Sinema. McSally may be a RINO; Sinema is pretending to be a moderate.
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« Reply #53 on: September 28, 2018, 12:44:09 PM » |
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Well, the Dems are getting their fbi investigation. I will guess the investigation will turn up nothing and the Dems will try something else, or they will scream the investigation is biased, corrupt, the agents wore the wrong color shirts, shoes were untied, something.
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« Reply #54 on: September 28, 2018, 12:44:20 PM » |
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Obviously the Dems whole purpose is to delay the confirmation until after the November elections when they hope to regain control of congress. Then they will have the votes to reject Trump's candidates outright.
This is just a sham to facilitate that delay. Trump gave a list of his potential Supreme Court nominees to the press before his election. I'd bet a paycheck the Dems have other accusers waiting in the wings for each and every potential nominee Trump listed. If Trump gives up and brings forth the next candidate, the Dems will do the same thing again leaving even less time to investigate it. If by chance, Kavanaugh is not voted in, Trump needs to appoint someone who is not on that list and whose credentials are already well known. Senator Cruz would be an outstanding choice.
After Kavanaugh is appointed or rejected an investigation should be done. Not on the 36 year old allegations, but to see who lied under oath at the hearing. Whichever one it is should go to prison. If it's Kavanaugh, he's off the court and on the way to prison. If it was her, perhaps the threat of prison will force her to divulge who paid her. That would drain a little more of the swamp
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There is nothing to investigate! 36 yr old accusation many holes in ones story. Just a bunch of butt hurt assholes, getting the whole thing delayed.......nothing more. It amazes me the stupidity of the elected officials. They have zero interest in the American people or the Constitution.......me me me I I I.
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I've heard "The FBI doesn't provide conclusions or make recommendations" about 50 times today and 100 times yesterday. Do they all really believe we have such short memories? Didn't Loretta Lynch not only ask for, but then took action, based on the recommendation of the head of the FBI, James Comey, to not prosecute Hillary Clinton? I hate them for thinking so little of us. 
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Well, the Dems are getting their fbi investigation. I will guess the investigation will turn up nothing and the Dems will try something else, or they will scream the investigation is biased, corrupt, the agents wore the wrong color shirts, shoes were untied, something.
They want to set a week for an FBI investigation. Into what? Nothing, of course. Just to bide the time away till next Thursday when the Democrats roll out the Pedophile charges against him and demand another investigation. After that there will need to be an investigation into the accusation that he flew BOTH planes into the World Trade Center on 9/11. This needs to be shut down, and shut down with extreme prejudice, now. Vote up or down. No further investigations, no further delays. This is despicable and a disgrace to the very bedrock of this Republic. May the Democrat Party rot in Hell forever.
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If the FBI find nothing will any Dems then vote "Aye"?  Nay
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If the FBI find nothing will any Dems then vote "Aye"?  Manchin and Heidtkamp have done it before.
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Well, the Dems are getting their fbi investigation. I will guess the investigation will turn up nothing and the Dems will try something else, or they will scream the investigation is biased, corrupt, the agents wore the wrong color shirts, shoes were untied, something.
They want to set a week for an FBI investigation. Into what? Nothing, of course. Just to bide the time away till next Thursday when the Democrats roll out the Pedophile charges against him and demand another investigation. After that there will need to be an investigation into the accusation that he flew BOTH planes into the World Trade Center on 9/11. This needs to be shut down, and shut down with extreme prejudice, now. Vote up or down. No further investigations, no further delays. This is despicable and a disgrace to the very bedrock of this Republic. May the Democrat Party rot in Hell forever. I entirely agree with you. However, if they do their quickie little investigation in a week (and no more) (tidying up any loose ends with a few more, or attempted interviews), and it reveals nothing more than already known, then they can have a straight up vote and confirm him, and everyone can say everything possible was done. (well, WE can say that, THEY will never say that) IF any new charge or accusation comes out in the next week, it better have video and ironclad evidence good enough for immediate indictment........ or it should be rejected out of hand. And vote. What cannot (be allowed to) happen, is to have an investigation take off with a life of it's own in some perpetuity like Mueller's Fishing Expedition.
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Well, the Dems are getting their fbi investigation. I will guess the investigation will turn up nothing and the Dems will try something else, or they will scream the investigation is biased, corrupt, the agents wore the wrong color shirts, shoes were untied, something.
They want to set a week for an FBI investigation. Into what? Nothing, of course. Just to bide the time away till next Thursday when the Democrats roll out the Pedophile charges against him and demand another investigation. After that there will need to be an investigation into the accusation that he flew BOTH planes into the World Trade Center on 9/11. This needs to be shut down, and shut down with extreme prejudice, now. Vote up or down. No further investigations, no further delays. This is despicable and a disgrace to the very bedrock of this Republic. May the Democrat Party rot in Hell forever. I entirely agree with you. However, if they do their quickie little investigation in a week (and no more) (tidying up any loose ends with a few more, or attempted interviews), and it reveals nothing more than already known, then they can have a straight up vote and confirm him, and everyone can say everything possible was done. (well, WE can say that, THEY will never say that) IF any new charge or accusation comes out in the next week, it better have video and ironclad evidence good enough for immediate indictment........ or it should be rejected out of hand. And vote. What cannot (be allowed to) happen, is to have an investigation take off with a life of it's own in some perpetuity like Mueller's Fishing Expedition. They are already talking about impeaching Kavanaugh if he is confirmed. The Democrats are not going to let this end. And any other nominee that Trump picks will suffer the same diabolical treatment at their hands. The Democrat Party is off the rails and headed to the abyss. May the midterms be the final nail in the coffin for that party. If the Democrats can do this to a guy like Kavanaugh, imagine what they can do to you.
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« Reply #63 on: September 28, 2018, 03:03:35 PM » |
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Well, the Dems are getting their fbi investigation. I will guess the investigation will turn up nothing and the Dems will try something else, or they will scream the investigation is biased, corrupt, the agents wore the wrong color shirts, shoes were untied, something.
They want to set a week for an FBI investigation. Into what? Nothing, of course. Just to bide the time away till next Thursday when the Democrats roll out the Pedophile charges against him and demand another investigation. After that there will need to be an investigation into the accusation that he flew BOTH planes into the World Trade Center on 9/11. This needs to be shut down, and shut down with extreme prejudice, now. Vote up or down. No further investigations, no further delays. This is despicable and a disgrace to the very bedrock of this Republic. May the Democrat Party rot in Hell forever. I entirely agree with you. However, if they do their quickie little investigation in a week (and no more) (tidying up any loose ends with a few more, or attempted interviews), and it reveals nothing more than already known, then they can have a straight up vote and confirm him, and everyone can say everything possible was done. (well, WE can say that, THEY will never say that) IF any new charge or accusation comes out in the next week, it better have video and ironclad evidence good enough for immediate indictment........ or it should be rejected out of hand. And vote. What cannot (be allowed to) happen, is to have an investigation take off with a life of it's own in some perpetuity like Mueller's Fishing Expedition. Giving the dems a full week to trot out more accusers , then they will demand that these new accusers have the right to be heard . This is ALL about delaying the vote because Kavanaugh is Pro life . If he had been Pro choice you wouldnt know who Ford was . This is all about the left holding onto abortion ! Next SCOTUS pick Trump should nominate a women, a good conservative Republican women, the dems couldnt pull this 'stunt' with a women nominee . JMHO. Ride safe. Roadog
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« Reply #64 on: September 28, 2018, 03:08:29 PM » |
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It was almost amusing that ther Democrat senators kept pushing Judge Kavanaugh to request an FBI investigation.
The accusation involved no specific time or place. An investigation could possibly contribute to proving guilt but could in no way prove innocence.
That brings up another point. People like to quote innocent until proven guilty. That's incorrect. If a person does wrong he is guilty as soon as he has done wrong. The purpose of the court is to determine, to discover, guilt not to be the place guilt initiates. The phrase dictates not innocence or guilt but guides the court's behavior. The phrase is actually presumed innocent until proven guilty. To that end, a court does not determine innocence. A court determines whether there is enough proof to declare guilt. Thus one on trial is declared guilty or not guilty rather than guilty or innocent.
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« Reply #65 on: September 28, 2018, 03:15:53 PM » |
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So every one of you who votes and has a mouth and two hands, spread the word and get your friends and neighbors to the polls for the election
The stakes have never been higher
And of course the irony, as I read his cases, is that Kavanaugh would NOT overturn Roe, might limit the # of months before the fetus has rights but not attempt to deny a mother's rights early in term of pregnancy
Looking forward to Trump seating a few more justices over the next few years and the end of the likes of Pelosi and her screwball friends
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I feel sorry for the dozens if not more people who lives are about to get F'ed up.
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« Reply #67 on: September 28, 2018, 04:13:11 PM » |
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Haven’t watched any news today but just saw a headline that the nomination is on hold due to Trump ordering an FBI probe.
Smart move if you ask me though unexpected by me. I’m hoping that they can come back with a clean slate, nothing to back up all the claims. If he is innocent it’s all they can find if they strictly by facts. You can call it a she said, he said, it’s already that but when they get their investigation it will be their turn to “ shut up and step up”.
Trump could have done this sooner but he let the Dems play their cards and he is going to shut them down. Will the Dems still cry foul for one reason or another, almost assuredly but it won’t hold water in my opinion
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« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2018, 04:19:32 PM » |
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Haven’t watched any news today but just saw a headline that the nomination is on hold due to Trump ordering an FBI probe.
Smart move if you ask me though unexpected by me. I’m hoping that they can come back with a clean slate, nothing to back up all the claims. If he is innocent it’s all they can find if they strictly by facts. You can call it a she said, he said, it’s already that but when they get their investigation it will be their turn to “ shut up and step up”.
Trump could have done this sooner but he let the Dems play their cards and he is going to shut them down. Will the Dems still cry foul for one reason or another, almost assuredly but it won’t hold water in my opinion
You're right. Trump could have but Feinstein could and should have when she got the accusations 6 weeks ago all the while keeping Fords name a secret like she wanted. But instead it was leaked so they could delay it even further..
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« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2018, 04:23:05 PM » |
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Was it my imagination or didn’t 2 guys come forward and say it wasn’t Kavanaugh, but them whommay have been at this party Ms.Ford is referring to?
I thought I was pretty much on top of the current reports on this but that part seems to have disappeared.
Also, why is it that no one calls out the democrat senators when they misquote the testimony from Ms.Ford?
As far as the reinvestigation is concerned, what’s going to happen when/if it’s revealed Ms. Ford is a super tramp?
Also, I am throughly embarrassed to be represented by Cory Booker.
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« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2018, 04:28:13 PM » |
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Was it my imagination or didn’t 2 guys come forward and say it wasn’t Kavanaugh, but them whommay have been at this party Ms.Ford is referring to?
I thought I was pretty much on top of the current reports on this but that part seems to have disappeared.
Also, why is it that no one calls out the democrat senators when they misquote the testimony from Ms.Ford?
As far as the reinvestigation is concerned, what’s going to happen when/if it’s revealed Ms. Ford is a super tramp?
Also, I am throughly embarrassed to be represented by Cory Booker.
I’d like to ask Lindsey Graham if it would be ok to relocate to South Carolina, he really impressed me these last 2 days.
My understanding is the Republican committee staff interviewed them and found their claims not credible.
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Was it my imagination or didn’t 2 guys come forward and say it wasn’t Kavanaugh, but them whommay have been at this party Ms.Ford is referring to?
I thought I was pretty much on top of the current reports on this but that part seems to have disappeared.
Also, why is it that no one calls out the democrat senators when they misquote the testimony from Ms.Ford?
As far as the reinvestigation is concerned, what’s going to happen when/if it’s revealed Ms. Ford is a super tramp?
Also, I am throughly embarrassed to be represented by Cory Booker.
I’d like to ask Lindsey Graham if it would be ok to relocate to South Carolina, he really impressed me these last 2 days.
My understanding is the Republican committee staff interviewed them and found their claims not credible. Ok..info is much appreciated.
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There are many reasons why this doesn't float but another big one is its beyond the statute of limitations.
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« Reply #74 on: September 28, 2018, 05:04:24 PM » |
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Was it my imagination or didn’t 2 guys come forward and say it wasn’t Kavanaugh, but them whommay have been at this party Ms.Ford is referring to?
I thought I was pretty much on top of the current reports on this but that part seems to have disappeared.
Also, why is it that no one calls out the democrat senators when they misquote the testimony from Ms.Ford?
As far as the reinvestigation is concerned, what’s going to happen when/if it’s revealed Ms. Ford is a super tramp?
Also, I am throughly embarrassed to be represented by Cory Booker.
I’d like to ask Lindsey Graham if it would be ok to relocate to South Carolina, he really impressed me these last 2 days.
My understanding is the Republican committee staff interviewed them and found their claims not credible. I didn't think that mattered anymore. -RP
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« Reply #76 on: September 28, 2018, 05:26:13 PM » |
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There are many reasons why this doesn't float but another big one is its beyond the statute of limitations.
It’s my understanding there is no statute of limitations where this supposed accusation happened, Maryland.
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« Reply #77 on: September 28, 2018, 05:33:47 PM » |
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I feel sorry for the dozens if not more people who lives are about to get F'ed up.
I do hope Ford has taken this into account and knows it's on her shoulders.
I think this is not so much on Ford, but on the Bolsheviks (dems), and Hate Trump Syndrome Combine. It's possible Ford is a complete knowing, conspiring liar, but I think it's more probable a case of the Dems using a troubled, mentally ill person (who may indeed have been molested as she described decades ago, and has somehow convinced herself that it was the good judge, but it wasn't). And she slipped right into their clutches with her ill-advised letter to Feistein, and was used like a sacrificial lamb by the hate-Trump, and by association the hate-Kavanaugh program. This is precisely what the good Judge plainly laid out in the beginning of his opening statement (except he left Ford out of it). The good judge cannot know if Ford is a knowing liar (or simply deluded) and wisely did not attack (but instead prayed with his children for) her. Unless through some miracle Ford admits lying, or says she is no longer certain if it was the good Judge (but see, perjury), the Republicans and the President will also likely not make any attack on Ford whatsoever (only on the unfortunate lack of any credible evidence of any kind, beyond her story), but only on the deserving Bolsheviks and their combine. You can say the Republicans have lacked spine in this matter, but you can also say they have bent over backwards to accommodate Ford (and unfortunately the Bolsheviks too) who while wholly lacking any significant case against the good judge, has presented a seemingly heartfelt plea about some remote event that she thoroughly believes. The Republicans cannot simply ignore the female vote in any elections to come (and right shortly too). I just hope this last (and hopefully final) accommodation does not backfire on them. A week and no more, and then an up or down vote on confirmation. If they get a confirmation (and I pray they do), they will still incur the insane wrath of the Hate Trump Combine, but at least they will have given Ford every chance to prove her case and more than reasonable due process. Whether all this does them any good with female voters (and moderates) will remain to be seen. I can barely stand to watch the TV anymore, and again today was not surprised to see the bulk of the mainstream commentary solidly against the angry and combative Kavanaugh and the Republicans and the President. The day after one of the worst political train-wreck hatchet jobs ever levied against one of the finest men ever produced in America (and his family), and against the people of the United States (by the Democratic Party), it's business as usual for the hate-Trump Combine.
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« Reply #78 on: September 28, 2018, 05:43:41 PM » |
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If the Dems stand behind their claims of support for the FBI and it’s employees and those employees come back and tell them that they investigated Fords claim including the witnesses she put forth as being there ( wherever that was) and they find no corroboration anywhere it will be game over on Fords story where it concerns Kavanaugh. Maybe she will be able to hang it on the next nominee.
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« Reply #79 on: September 28, 2018, 05:45:23 PM » |
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cant the fbi simultaneously investigate the democrats?
wouldnt an indictment against them be poetic justice
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