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« on: October 29, 2018, 12:09:16 PM » |
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Had dealer change out all fluids and put on a new set of shoes front and back. Also had them service rear end as well. Have noticed a little vibration/noise under throttle coming out of dead stop and or coasting in high gear giving it a little gas. Any thoughts/suggestions of what to look at? Have chacled all bolts and mounts, hardware mounts, brake calipers. Bike has 70K not been abused at all, noise is coming from rear area, Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2018, 12:15:24 PM » |
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Wheel bearing?
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Kokomo Kevin
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2018, 12:30:22 PM » |
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Would bearing be constant or intermittent?
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2018, 01:21:31 PM » |
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Had dealer change out all fluids and put on a new set of shoes front and back. Also had them service rear end as well. Have noticed a little vibration/noise under throttle coming out of dead stop and or coasting in high gear giving it a little gas. Any thoughts/suggestions of what to look at? Have chacled all bolts and mounts, hardware mounts, brake calipers. Bike has 70K not been abused at all, noise is coming from rear area, Thoughts?
If it didnt make that noise before the work, then I would suspect they did something wrong. I never trust dealers rear end maintenance. If it were my bike Id tear down the rear end and put it back together right and then see what I have |
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sandy
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2018, 01:34:29 PM » |
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Loosen the 4 bolts that attach the drive unit to the swingarm. Then loosen and retighten the axle bolt. Retighten the 4 bolts.
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2018, 01:59:24 PM » |
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Would bearing be constant or intermittent?
I agree with Jeff also. I had a bad bearing that only made a noise at slow speed and turning left. Never when turning right or at high speed. |
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Kokomo Kevin
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2018, 03:27:35 PM » |
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Makes sense, going to do as suggested, got to dig out the jack support tomorrow at get 4 bolts loose then redo the axle nut, Dont have a torque wrench. So correct procedure would be to loosen 4 bolts then re torque rear axle then re torgue 4 bolts ?
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2018, 04:05:50 PM » |
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Had dealer change out all fluids and put on a new set of shoes front and back. Also had them service rear end as well. Have noticed a little vibration/noise under throttle coming out of dead stop and or coasting in high gear giving it a little gas. Any thoughts/suggestions of what to look at? Have chacled all bolts and mounts, hardware mounts, brake calipers. Bike has 70K not been abused at all, noise is coming from rear area, Thoughts?
If it didnt make that noise before the work, then I would suspect they did something wrong. I never trust dealers rear end maintenance. If it were my bike Id tear down the rear end and put it back together right and then see what I have I totally agree. Expensive to repair if done wrong. I would check all there work. |
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Kokomo Kevin
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2018, 04:14:39 PM » |
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Going to start into it tomorrow. Did not make any noise before I took it in. Suspect they did not follow the correct procedure when they reinstalled the rear end. Going to check out fluid in rear as well as I wanted it changed out, paid for it to be changed out. So let me confirm correct proceedure is to loosen 4 bolts holding in rear shaft, loosen and re torge rear axle then retorge rear shaft. Assume that this all needs to be done while rear tire is off the ground correct?
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2018, 04:19:35 PM » |
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Going to start into it tomorrow. Did not make any noise before I took it in. Suspect they did not follow the correct procedure when they reinstalled the rear end. Going to check out fluid in rear as well as I wanted it changed out, paid for it to be changed out. So let me confirm correct proceedure is to loosen 4 bolts holding in rear shaft, loosen and re torge rear axle then retorge rear shaft. Assume that this all needs to be done while rear tire is off the ground correct?
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2018, 04:25:26 PM » |
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Thanks, I am guessing that doing it backwards slightly misaligned the shaft correct?
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2018, 04:41:46 PM » |
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I would also unbolt the top of the right rear shock before tightening the axle nut and four swingarm nuts.
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2018, 04:44:36 PM » |
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OK will do Thanks Indy Bob....
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2018, 04:50:24 PM » |
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Thoughts?
How about take it back to them? I suspect something is miss aligned. Can you tell where the noise is coming from, front or rear? But both of my suggestions would be that the job was not done correctly, and either the front hasn't been put back together (if taken apart) correctly, or the rear hasn't. |
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2018, 04:55:31 PM » |
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Could take it back but not sure I trust them as much. The noise is coming from the rear area just a slight vibration and noise under load. It is intermittent, but after riding it 20 miles today I really think it is a slight misalignment of drive shaft. Just has that kind of feel to it. Going to see what I can do, If not I might wait for BF next year. I am on the list whenever he gets going again. I have had front end misalignment issues in the past so I know what that sounds like. Son also experienced a front end issue like that as well from a different dealer, so pretty well versed on that problem
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2018, 05:53:27 PM » |
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Going to start into it tomorrow. Did not make any noise before I took it in. Suspect they did not follow the correct procedure when they reinstalled the rear end. Going to check out fluid in rear as well as I wanted it changed out, paid for it to be changed out. So let me confirm correct proceedure is to loosen 4 bolts holding in rear shaft, loosen and re torge rear axle then retorge rear shaft. Assume that this all needs to be done while rear tire is off the ground correct?
But if you aren't going to remove the rear end you cannot inspect the drive shaft and pinion cup. At very least, you should have the right side shock removed so the final drive is free to align to the wheel. |
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Kokomo Kevin
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2018, 06:04:01 PM » |
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Copy will remove right rear shock, hopefully will allow the driveshaft to properly align itself. If this does not work will probably wait till I can get some more experienced help.
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2018, 07:32:35 PM » |
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How far are you from New Haven?
Mark (mad6gun) lives there and from what I hear is a heck of a mechanic, he has worked with wrenches most of his life and now limits his work to Valkyries.
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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2018, 04:30:09 AM » |
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Couple of Hours to New Haven Indiana, I am hour north of Indy, Kokomo Indiana
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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2018, 05:14:46 AM » |
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If you do not check it from the u-joint back; you can never be sure if all is well. Riding it put together poorly will be really bad in the future!
There are plenty of pictures to prove it and they all do not happen in your driveway.
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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2018, 05:27:30 AM » |
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Copy going to try and see if alignment will work, was not having any issues with it before tire change, so I suspect that will correct it, if not will seek advice.
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Kokomo Kevin
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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2018, 06:31:24 AM » |
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What is the proper size wrench to tighten the axle nut on a standard? Search function! Looks like a 27 MM.
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« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2018, 07:03:11 AM » |
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What is the proper size wrench to tighten the axle nut on a standard? Search function! Looks like a 27 MM.
I use a 1 and 1/16 deep well socket. That is same size as 27 mm. |
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« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2018, 08:46:02 AM » |
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Not trying to throw a scare into, ok, maybe I am. The only way to tell if the thrust washer was installed between the rear wheel and the drive flange is to take it apart. If it is not there, disaster will follow. Many people have found out what kind of damage that can do, myself included. If the dealer insists that it was installed, then it is up to you.
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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2018, 09:34:22 AM » |
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Well did as instructed and now I have a rear brake issue, took caliper off and cant get clips back together so I think I am going to wait and get some help come next spring, thanks for all your help, just hoping BF is back next year unless I can find a good mechanic here in Indiana. One thing I noticed is they way over torqued both the Shaft connections and the axle nut, had to use a cheater to get it too release. Any Indiana folks interested in giving a guy some help would be much obliged. Thanks
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« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2018, 11:37:02 AM » |
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One detail to correct: The shocks have flexible bushings, so the shocks don't have to be loosened or removed to align the splines.
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Kokomo Kevin
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« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2018, 11:47:58 AM » |
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Thanks Sandy, It was really easy to pull the right one off, left one fully supported it. Did notice some side to side movement as I re tightened axle back up. Finished and noticed the brake was rubbing a Little then disaster struck when I took of rear caliber. What a pain, anyway gave up after trying to get the damn clips back in. Did notice the dealer put EBC pads on rear. I usually use the honda organic to save rotors. So that dealer is now off the list! Going to wait to see if I can get some help. Going to take out the F6B today, weather is great.....Thanks to Big Wolf as well, the 1 1/16th worked perfect!
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« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2018, 01:11:39 PM » |
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One detail to correct: The shocks have flexible bushings, so the shocks don't have to be loosened or removed to align the splines.
I think that if the shock is not absolutely in the center of its travel, it cam push or pull on the final drive and attempt to twist it. is hanging on the shock, it can try to twist the Final Drive one way or the other. Just my opinion, for what it is worth.  |
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« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2018, 01:59:02 PM » |
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Well did as instructed and now I have a rear brake issue, took caliper off and cant get clips back together so I think I am going to wait and get s:ome help come next spring, thanks for all your help, just hoping BF is back next year unless I can find a good mechanic here in Indiana. One thing I noticed is they way over torqued both the Shaft connections and the axle nut, had to use a cheater to get it too release. Any Indiana folks interested in giving a guy some help would be much obliged. Thanks
What clips are you talking about. Note: you don't take the caliper off the caliper plate. You leave it all as a unit it rotates off the disk and then tie it up out of the way |
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Kokomo Kevin
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« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2018, 06:14:47 PM » |
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Brake shoe clips, I did take the Caliper off the plate by the way....
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« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2018, 07:10:43 PM » |
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Brake shoe clips, I did take the Caliper off the plate by the way....
The “clips” are actually springs. One attaches to the caliper and one attaches to the caliper plate. Just take your time and figure out where. Look at microfiche you will “get it” |
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« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2018, 09:36:05 AM » |
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What kind of tires installed?
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« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2018, 10:01:14 AM » |
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Avon Cobra's this is the third straight set on this bike, have had great luck with them past 50K miles.
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