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Author Topic: Installing electric shutoff w/o desmog  (Read 1423 times)
Divot
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« on: January 27, 2019, 04:56:14 AM »

Has anyone installed the AFC electric shutoff valve without doing the desmog?  I am in the middle of doing this and looking for any tips or tricks those with experience might have.  Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2019, 07:35:35 AM »

I have installed the standard Dan-Marc and the 1/4" orifice one.  I don't think the desmog has any bearing on the install. It's just convenient to do both while you have the airbox off.  Same considerations apply:  Keep the fuel line downhill or level - no loops or dips or excessive length.  There's very little head pressure on this gravity system; anything that impedes the flow will show up as fuel starvation - been there and fought that.  That's the why of the larger orifice Dan-Marc. (I tow trailers which demands more fuel - have got as low as 17mpg.)  Good idea to replace the OEM plastic fuel T with a brass one with screw-in barbs with the same thread/port size as the Dan-Marc so you can keep the flexible fuel line length longer to allow flex for inserting it back onto the petcock barb.  Using the bigger Dan-Marc on Jade, I supported it's greater weight with a wire tie so it wouldn't sag and cause an air bubble blockage (pictured).  Don't add anything to the fuel line like a filter.  Mine is powered via a latch relay powered by the black-white line from the kill sw. (The same circuit is at the coils and the ECM) Relay triggered by a hidden momentary-on pushbutton (with relay output feedback to the trigger input via a diode) and power from the circuit goes to LED in parallel with the solenoid (Dan-Marc) so I can see the valve is powered on.  This enables fuel security - for theft / hijacking, or if the bike tips over.  The fuel is off unless the latch is triggered, and goes off with the ignition or kill sw or tipover.  Doesn't take long to learn to always hit the pushbutton when starting the bike.  If you forget the bike sputters in about a mile.  There's no need to turn off/on the petcock as that fn is done by the Dan-Marc.



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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2019, 11:20:59 AM »

I would agree with Mark, desmog and Danmarc don't intersect as projects.  I did the desmog at the same time I did the Danmarc and Pingle (along with a couple of other things), again, just because I hate dealing with the airbox.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2019, 05:22:08 PM »

I appreciate the input.  I installed the AFC 121R shutoff valve without doing the desmog.  Its a tight fit to avoid all the hoses.  I put it all back together and now have a rather serious fuel leak.  I believe it is coming from the fuel hose connection on the right side carbs.  I reused the wimpy hose clamps on the carburetor ends of the hoses.  So, now I will be tearing it all down again and installing better hose clamps.  But before I do it again I thought I'd see if there was anything others might have for advice while I'm in there again. 
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2019, 12:45:55 PM »

I’m in the UK and been thinking about a fuel shutoff solenoid but can’t find the one your all using Danmarc. Where can I get one from. There is something similar in the UK with an over Ride leaver. Does the Danmarc have this feature ?
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2019, 03:17:49 PM »

I’m in the UK and been thinking about a fuel shutoff solenoid but can’t find the one your all using Danmarc. Where can I get one from. There is something similar in the UK with an over Ride leaver. Does the Danmarc have this feature ?
This is it. It's not really a DanMarc product. It's made by AFC company. Most of us have just purchased it thru the DanMarc company. I'm not familiar with any override feature.
http://www.dan-marc.com/79-afc1211412.html
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2019, 04:51:03 AM »

I’m in the UK and been thinking about a fuel shutoff solenoid but can’t find the one your all using Danmarc. Where can I get one from. There is something similar in the UK with an over Ride leaver. Does the Danmarc have this feature ?
This is it. It's not really a DanMarc product. It's made by AFC company. Most of us have just purchased it thru the DanMarc company. I'm not familiar with any override feature.
http://www.dan-marc.com/79-afc1211412.html

Thanks. Just ordered the one available in the uk. I’ll fit it when I do the de smog and add photos. As I said it has an over Ride on and off which can be used as a security device.



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