What Moly Paste are you using?

[nogrey]

I’ve been doing a lot of research on this forum trying to find the correct lubricant for the final driven gear. I’m good on the splines and pinion cup, as well as gear oil. I’m talking about the Moly Paste Honda calls for in the manual for the final drive gear. Honda calls for 40% Molybdenum Disulfide paste. I know I can buy Honda 77 now, since they discontinued the 60, but it’s fairly expensive and upon reading many of the posts on this forum, it’s not really that good of a lubricant anyway. One person here even wrote Honda about it and they called him (no paper trail) and told him that even they didn’t use it! Still, I’m at a loss of what to use. Several of the lubes cited on this forum are no longer in production. Anyone have a recommendation on a current product they’ve had long-term experience with and is still in production?
Thanks.

[hubcapsc]

Any kind. Unless the label is lying about the molybdenum content, molybdenum is molybdenum (number 42
on the Periodic Chart of the Elements).

I've used Honda's, a little can of Beeman's I got from Amazon and Loctite from Graingers...



-Mike "and finally, no-moly blue bel-ray waterproof grease - I've only looked in there once since then though..."

[Ken aka Oil Burner]

This is what I bought. I am using it for the first time now, so I can't comment on it's longevity or anything. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001HWBSJW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[ValkStrom]

Yamalube moly for me.....good stuff.

[Bagger John - #3785]

Yamalube moly for me.....good stuff.

This is what I've been using for a few years now, although I still have a tube or two of the Hondaline product floating around the shop.

[Alberta Patriot]

Canadian Tire Brand...Very Thick, like paste:

[sandy]

This is what I bought. I am using it for the first time now, so I can't comment on it's longevity or anything. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001HWBSJW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This stuff is for bolt threads that you don't want to rust. It's not for wheel splines or drive shaft splines.

[Itinifni]

I've been using Dow Corning Molykote M77 for various automotive applications for years. It's what I had on hand when I serviced my final drive so it's what I used. I haven't had it apart again yet so we'll see.

It's available on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Corning-Molykote-Lubricant-Silicone-Container/dp/B00B3UUFR4

[hubcapsc]

This is what I bought. I am using it for the first time now, so I can't comment on it's longevity or anything. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001HWBSJW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This stuff is for bolt threads that you don't want to rust. It's not for wheel splines or drive shaft splines.

LOCTITE®   Moly   Paste   (formerly   C-670)   contains   65%molybdenum  disulfide  for  maximum  lubricity.

https://www.grainger.com/ec/pdf/Loctite-Moly-Paste-Description-Sheet.pdf

Seems perfect to me...

-Mike

[98valk]

I've been using TS-moly 70% paste.
https://www.tsmoly.com/anti-seize-lubricants-compounds-c-7.html?osCsid=nf3rbktn4dfklr58iofm092r43

and mix it with their sticky high moly grease which they don't make anymore.

they are the makers of the Guard Dog moly grease they designed for final drives (it is what my mix is). many on this board have sworn by it. It came out after I had already brought my stash.
GD-525 Moly Grease
https://www.tsmoly.com/grease-moly-grease-p-251.html

[Bighead]

Got a tube from my local Honda dealer at no cost last he had...... when that is gone I will pay attention to what others are using.

[sandy]

This is what I bought. I am using it for the first time now, so I can't comment on it's longevity or anything. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001HWBSJW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This stuff is for bolt threads that you don't want to rust. It's not for wheel splines or drive shaft splines.

LOCTITE®   Moly   Paste   (formerly   C-670)   contains   65%molybdenum  disulfide  for  maximum  lubricity.

https://www.grainger.com/ec/pdf/Loctite-Moly-Paste-Description-Sheet.pdf

Seems perfect to me...

-Mike

The carrier grease is just as important as the moly content you're looking for. The grease has to be an extreme pressure grease to stay put on the splines. I stand by my statement about the Locktite stuff being a rust preventive.

[h13man]

This is what I bought. I am using it for the first time now, so I can't comment on it's longevity or anything. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001HWBSJW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Moly Paste Anti-Seize Compound as described in "Product Details".

I was lucky enough to score a tube of Honda Moly 60. Should have bought the last 3 tubes but...

[MarkT]

Loctite for me.

[Ken aka Oil Burner]

This is what I bought. I am using it for the first time now, so I can't comment on it's longevity or anything. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001HWBSJW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This stuff is for bolt threads that you don't want to rust. It's not for wheel splines or drive shaft splines.

Per my conversation with a lubrication engineer from Amsoil (not the company that owns Loctite or Permatex), it is ideal for the job. Adequate amount of Molybdenum with a suitable carrier. Though the containers look similar, this is not Loctite Nickel Anti Seize. The Moly Paste can be used on fastener threads, but it is not limited to that.

[Randy52]

My experiance with Honda 77 was NOT good.  Anything but that stuff. I'm using Belray  now.

[Martin2001]

I was planning on using some Royal Purple ultra performance grease but this thread prompted me to ask them about moly content.
Their response:
Royal Purple Ultra Performance Grease (part #01312, tube) does not contain any molybdenum disulfide at all. Molybdenum disulfide is insoluble in a hydrocarbon oil or grease, and Royal Purple does dot use any insolubles in any of our oils or greases.

 

However yes, Royal Purple Ultra Performance Grease (part #01312, tube) should make a great functional upgrade over the OE moly paste that was used on driveshaft splines, just remove as much of the old paste as possible before installing the UPG. UPG is an extreme pressure NLGI #2 grease that resists wash out very well.


Should i shy away from this for the splines?

[Firefight100]

This is the one I use.  Works good for the clutch and brake lever bushings and axles to prevent galling.  It is staining so wear gloves when using.  This is not a real thick paste  more like a general purpose viscosity grease.  https://www.amazon.com/Liqui-Moly-20216-Assembly-Paste/dp/B00295ER76/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=moly+paste&qid=1551727954&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-8-catcorr

[Tfrank59]

I'm using Lucas brand gear grease that's like for marine application.  I first used Honda moly paste per the manual and was told on this forum it won't do the job.  I bought my bike with 27K on her and rode for another 5k before it needed a back tire.  When I first opened her up--by then it's at 32k--it was dry, rusty and badly worn.  I was pissed at the PO, who (or his mechanic) probably did nothing to prevent that excessive wear, which required me to replace parts in there.  Since then I've done I think 5 rear tires now, and whatever grease I've put in has been good enough to prevent any noticeable wear to my drive splines in the pumpkin.

[Jess from VA]

I think this illustrates that while using top quality lubricants (moly paste and grease) is a very good idea, routine maintenance with any lube is better than no maintenance with great lube.

My bike miles have dramatically reduced with age the last couple years (esp. swapping between two bikes), and my car tires go 37K, so I'm depending more on quality lube more than ever.  Though I don't have over 10K miles on either bike, yet (since the last service).