Kids vaccination: did you immunize you children and what are your thoughts

[Hooter]

I to have had every shot available. From childhood thru adulthood. Spending my life as a cop, fire chief and medic I've been exposed to most everything imaginable. Been puked on, bled on and pissed on spit on and no problems due to my inoculation. Blood test proved no issues after exposures. The only inoculation I won't ever take again is for the flu. Took it twice and ended up sicker than a 50 cent chicken each time!  I don't care who choses what path to take, for themselves or their children, it's their life being gambled with. If no inoculation is provided to you children and things go south, be willing to accept the responsibility as a parent. It could also mean someone else's life or well being as well. I just believe if you or your family come down with the creepin crud no matter what it is, stay out of the public, shots or no shots.

[ValkStrom]

I to have had every shot available. From childhood thru adulthood. Spending my life as a cop, fire chief and medic I've been exposed to most everything imaginable. Been puked on, bled on and pissed on spit on and no problems due to my inoculation. Blood test proved no issues after exposures. The only inoculation I won't ever take again is for the flu. Took it twice and ended up sicker than a 50 cent chicken each time!  I don't care who choses what path to take, for themselves or their children, it's their life being gambled with. If no inoculation is provided to you children and things go south, be willing to accept the responsibility as a parent. It could also mean someone else's life or well being as well. I just believe if you or your family come down with the creepin crud no matter what it is, stay out of the public, shots or no shots.

Well said and well lived, get no argument from me. 

[Gavin_Sons]

The anti-vaccine crap has been debunked... repeatedly.  Too bad we can't bring back a few souls that witnessed the devastation wrought by rampant diseases.  Today, the debilitating and lethal natures of vaccine preventable diseases are vastly underestimated.  These diseases do not occur as isolated cases, but as widespread pestilence.
 
As an example, consider small pox.  Small pox is a terrifying infectious disease that claims 80% of the lives of affected children and causes blindness in 65%- 85% of those that manage to survive.  In the 19th century the disease stole 300 to 500 million lives.  During one dire European epidemic, one of every seven children was dying from small pox.  As recently as 1967, yet another small pox epidemic claimed an estimated two million additional lives.  In the decade following the 1967 outbreak, the efficiency of small pox vaccination was clearly and indisputably validated; when this latest scourge prompted a global vaccination program, small pox was effectively eradicated.

Measles, mumps, and pertussis (whooping cough) are on the rise in the U.S.  Why stop there?  Let's bring back smallpox, polio, and all the other catastrophic PREVENTABLE diseases.  

*Stepping off my soapbox*

you are wrong. read the latest studies FROM DOCTORS and other professionals who are exposing the truth.  otherwise it seems on this board the medical field and drug companies did a great job in fooling the public. Remember the vac industry is a multi-billion dollar industry and Dr Oz does not allow his own children to get shot up, yet he pushed it on all others to preserve his huge paychecks.
Did u see the medical reports I posted which clearly state outbreak of measles is from people who WERE vaccinated already for measles and those who had Measles Vaccination came down with measles. It can't be any clearer than that.
"As we reported back in 2011, the Institute of Medicine even admitted in a report claiming that MMR vaccines don't cause autism that the vaccines can, in fact, cause measles. On page 574, in fact, this report claims that the evidence "convincingly supports" the notion that MMR vaccines cause measles."
https://www.naturalnews.com/048391_measles_MMR_vaccines_Disneyland.html

Has it ever occurred to you that you may be wrong? Do you believe everything you read online?

[Gavin_Sons]

– The vaccinated children were also more likely to have increased healthcare utilization – to have had ear tubes placed; to have used antibiotics, to have used allergy and fever medications; to have visited a doctor for a health issue in the previous year, and to have been hospitalized.

This blanket statement just described 99.9% of the kids in the USA. My boys have ear tubes, they have been on antibiotics when they are sick, they have used allergy meds and Tylenol for fevers. Do you read this stuff you post?  You are not bettering your case for going anti vaccination.

[Patrick]

Had an adult male HPV vaccine been available 4 years ago, I wish I had it.

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Given the recent outbreak of measles in the Northwest, I got curious what is the opinion on the subject you guys have and if you had your kids immunized.

If you haven't them have all the recommended vaccines, which ones (if any) have them received?

Also, when a kid, did your parents vaccinate you?

And your perspective is.............................................?

[Wizzard]

I to have had every shot available. From childhood thru adulthood. Spending my life as a cop, fire chief and medic I've been exposed to most everything imaginable. Been puked on, bled on and pissed on spit on and no problems due to my inoculation. Blood test proved no issues after exposures. The only inoculation I won't ever take again is for the flu. Took it twice and ended up sicker than a 50 cent chicken each time!  I don't care who choses what path to take, for themselves or their children, it's their life being gambled with. If no inoculation is provided to you children and things go south, be willing to accept the responsibility as a parent. It could also mean someone else's life or well being as well. I just believe if you or your family come down with the creepin crud no matter what it is, stay out of the public, shots or no shots.

Agreed, I have never had a flu shot because I have never had the flu.

Well said and well lived, get no argument from me. 

Agreed, I have never had a flu shot because I have never had the flu.

[98valk]

– The vaccinated children were also more likely to have increased healthcare utilization – to have had ear tubes placed; to have used antibiotics, to have used allergy and fever medications; to have visited a doctor for a health issue in the previous year, and to have been hospitalized.

This blanket statement just described 99.9% of the kids in the USA. My boys have ear tubes, they have been on antibiotics when they are sick, they have used allergy meds and Tylenol for fevers. Do you read this stuff you post?  You are not bettering your case for going anti vaccination.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20825107/ns/health-childrens_health/t/shot-may-be-inadvertently-boosting-superbugs/

and look at the vaccine being given and what it prevents. what children get those conditions.

[98valk]

Wasn't Patient Zero of this anti-vax stuff Jenny McCarthy?
If vaccines caused autism there would be a lot more autism.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/studies-show-1-in-100-kids-have-autism/

not seen in other countries which are not giving their babies 50-70 vaccinations and ultrasounds.

there were studies coming out of austraila about 10 yrs ago indicating that ultra sounds during pregnancy are causing autism.  And before that many studies from china which have been covered up by the medical community.
u can read here  http://www.townsendletter.com/April2017/ultrasound0417.html

the author's site to get his book http://www.harvoa.org/
These are modern clinical studies, with analytic technology generally beyond the tradition of Western ultrasound science. These studies were conducted during a virtual explosion of ultrasound research in China, 1988‑2011. They directly investigate damage to virtually all aspects and stages of the human fetus. They support and reference Western animal and cell studies that had been neutralized, ignored, or denied funding for continuation.

 

[Alberta Patriot]

Wasn't Patient Zero of this anti-vax stuff Jenny McCarthy?
If vaccines caused autism there would be a lot more autism.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/studies-show-1-in-100-kids-have-autism/

not seen in other countries which are not giving their babies 50-70 vaccinations and ultrasounds.

there were studies coming out of austraila about 10 yrs ago indicating that ultra sounds during pregnancy are causing autism.  And before that many studies from china which have been covered up by the medical community.
u can read here  http://www.townsendletter.com/April2017/ultrasound0417.html

the author's site to get his book http://www.harvoa.org/
These are modern clinical studies, with analytic technology generally beyond the tradition of Western ultrasound science. These studies were conducted during a virtual explosion of ultrasound research in China, 1988‑2011. They directly investigate damage to virtually all aspects and stages of the human fetus. They support and reference Western animal and cell studies that had been neutralized, ignored, or denied funding for continuation.

 

I had an ultrasound last year after a crash...woman entered a 4-way stop while I was moving through the intersection...dropped the bike trying to avoid.
The ultrasound involved a large part of my left side including the groin area. The tech doing the 30 min. long ultrasound was a beautiful mid twenties young lady who smiled a lot.
Personally, I did not feel damaged after the ultrasound. For some reason I was in a positive mood for the rest of the day. I think ultrasounds have different effects depending on the situation.

[hubcapsc]

which have been covered up by the medical community.

This is the reasoning I can't get beyond...



-Mike "not a personal attack, an explanation of what causes me to hit a roadblock..."

[98valk]

which have been covered up by the medical community.

This is the reasoning I can't get beyond...



-Mike "not a personal attack, an explanation of what causes me to hit a roadblock..."

multi-billion dollar industry, drug companies.   ultra-sounds, doctors push them with scare tactics to expectant mothers and make a fortune. ultra-sound practices/offices are owned by doctors.
just follow the money. read the research.

if u want to read about the billion dollar cancer industry you can start with www.DrDay.com
you read who she was in the medical field, she was highly praised until she talked against the cancer industry in public because she had cancer and knew what their treatments would do to her. then they called her a quack. she has the news articles on her site which show this.

[Gavin_Sons]

My wife has been an ultrasound tech for 20 years. We have hundreds of images of our kids. Yet they are fine. 

[ValkStrom]

I to have had every shot available. From childhood thru adulthood. Spending my life as a cop, fire chief and medic I've been exposed to most everything imaginable. Been puked on, bled on and pissed on spit on and no problems due to my inoculation. Blood test proved no issues after exposures. The only inoculation I won't ever take again is for the flu. Took it twice and ended up sicker than a 50 cent chicken each time!  I don't care who choses what path to take, for themselves or their children, it's their life being gambled with. If no inoculation is provided to you children and things go south, be willing to accept the responsibility as a parent. It could also mean someone else's life or well being as well. I just believe if you or your family come down with the creepin crud no matter what it is, stay out of the public, shots or no shots.

Agreed, I have never had a flu shot because I have never had the flu.

Well said and well lived, get no argument from me. 

Agreed, I have never had a flu shot because I have never had the flu.

WOW that is damn impressive, I've only had it a few times in my life.....ugh it sucked. Unfortunately I am forced to get the flu shot for my employment, I'm extremely pissed about that....however I really want to keep my job. 

[Gryphon Rider]

Conspiracy theorists can't help it, it's in their nature.

I'm pretty sure my parents arranged to have me given all my immunizations.  My kids have had theirs at the recommended times.  My wife got ultrasounds with both of our kids.  Neither I nor my kids are autistic.  Some years I get the flu vaccine, other years I don't, mostly having to do with not remembering to get it at a time when it was convenient to do so.  This flu season the one person in my family who didn't get the flu vaccine got sidelined with the flu, while the rest of us were fine.  For the sake of full disclosure, this season my son had a mild fever the next day after the flu shot, but was fine the following day.

Trust in God, but tie your camel. - Arab proverb

[The emperor has no clothes]

I to have had every shot available. From childhood thru adulthood. Spending my life as a cop, fire chief and medic I've been exposed to most everything imaginable. Been puked on, bled on and pissed on spit on and no problems due to my inoculation. Blood test proved no issues after exposures. The only inoculation I won't ever take again is for the flu. Took it twice and ended up sicker than a 50 cent chicken each time!  I don't care who choses what path to take, for themselves or their children, it's their life being gambled with. If no inoculation is provided to you children and things go south, be willing to accept the responsibility as a parent. It could also mean someone else's life or well being as well. I just believe if you or your family come down with the creepin crud no matter what it is, stay out of the public, shots or no shots.

Agreed, I have never had a flu shot because I have never had the flu.

Well said and well lived, get no argument from me. 

Agreed, I have never had a flu shot because I have never had the flu.

I worked with a lady who retired last year. 65 years old and not only has she never had the flu, she’s never even had a common cold. It’s amazing to me. I think she should give her body to science when she finally passes. Unfortunately she was diagnosed with colon cancer a couple months ago.

[Gavin_Sons]

Conspiracy theorists can't help it, it's in their nature.

I'm pretty sure my parents arranged to have me given all my immunizations.  My kids have had theirs at the recommended times.  My wife got ultrasounds with both of our kids.  Neither I nor my kids are autistic.  Some years I get the flu vaccine, other years I don't, mostly having to do with not remembering to get it at a time when it was convenient to do so.  This flu season the one person in my family who didn't get the flu vaccine got sidelined with the flu, while the rest of us were fine.  For the sake of full disclosure, this season my son had a mild fever the next day after the flu shot, but was fine the following day.

Trust in God, but tie your camel. - Arab proverb

I get severely sick every time i get the flu shot so i never get it anymore. And i just had it over the weekend and now both kids have it.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Conspiracy theorists can't help it, it's in their nature.

I'm pretty sure my parents arranged to have me given all my immunizations.  My kids have had theirs at the recommended times.  My wife got ultrasounds with both of our kids.  Neither I nor my kids are autistic.  Some years I get the flu vaccine, other years I don't, mostly having to do with not remembering to get it at a time when it was convenient to do so.  This flu season the one person in my family who didn't get the flu vaccine got sidelined with the flu, while the rest of us were fine.  For the sake of full disclosure, this season my son had a mild fever the next day after the flu shot, but was fine the following day.

Trust in God, but tie your camel. - Arab proverb

Uh Oh.....A Canadian quoting Arab proverbs. This thread is doomed for a lock up. Clearly you are in on the conspiracy.  

[Serk]

Conspiracy theorists can't help it, it's in their nature.

.....

Trust in God, but tie your camel. - Arab proverb

The sad part is if one of them ever actually did stumble across a real conspiracy, they've cried wolf on so many outlandish things so many times for so long that no one would take them at all seriously...

And I'd always heard the axiom as "Trust in God, but row towards shore."

[Reb]

Conspiracy theorists can't help it, it's in their nature.

I'm pretty sure my parents arranged to have me given all my immunizations.  My kids have had theirs at the recommended times.  My wife got ultrasounds with both of our kids.  Neither I nor my kids are autistic.  Some years I get the flu vaccine, other years I don't, mostly having to do with not remembering to get it at a time when it was convenient to do so.  This flu season the one person in my family who didn't get the flu vaccine got sidelined with the flu, while the rest of us were fine.  For the sake of full disclosure, this season my son had a mild fever the next day after the flu shot, but was fine the following day.

Trust in God, but tie your camel. - Arab proverb

I get severely sick every time i get the flu shot so i never get it anymore. And i just had it over the weekend and now both kids have it.

My employer provides it for free onsite, I tend to get it. I haven't had the flu in years though... Well there is the occasional brown bottle flu, but I'm pretty sure I know the cause if that.

Factory setting is like an adult daycare.... Germ factory during cold season.

[Gryphon Rider]

Trust in God, but tie your camel. - Arab proverb

And I'd always heard the axiom as "Trust in God, but row towards shore."

Similar, but a little different in meaning, is the Russian proverb often quoted by Ronald Reagan, "Trust, but verify."

[Serk]

Trust in God, but tie your camel. - Arab proverb

And I'd always heard the axiom as "Trust in God, but row towards shore."

Similar, but a little different in meaning, is the Russian proverb often quoted by Ronald Reagan, "Trust, but verify."

The Russians have a way with proverbs... One of my favorites:

The church is near, but the road is icy...
The pub is far, but I'll walk carefully.

[Savago]

Given the recent outbreak of measles in the Northwest, I got curious what is the opinion on the subject you guys have and if you had your kids immunized.

If you haven't them have all the recommended vaccines, which ones (if any) have them received?

Also, when a kid, did your parents vaccinate you?

And your perspective is.............................................?

To me is a no-brainer: the benefits far outweigh any potential risks, specially for deadly diseases.

[bassman]

I remember going to visit "little Johnny" or "little Suzy" down the street whenever they got sick with measles, chicken pox, mumps etc. and then the next thing I remember was getting those very same diseases and then I would have some visitors who ended up with the same diseases.   Believe this was BEFORE vacines but I also remember getting shots (vaccines?) a few years later and assume they were for those same diseases.  I think the theory was to just get the disease and be done with it but can't prove or disprove it one way or the other.  Also had poison ivy, oak and sumac every year for about seven years.  Old doctor told my mother that I would go through for 7 years and then be done with it.  Claimed the human body rebuilds, restructures or something every 7 years and I would grow out of it - so far, it seems to have worked.

Got the singles shot about 4-5 years ago but told it is only about 35% effective and the new one (series of 2 shots) is about 93% effective but can be a little painful and pricey.  Getting both of those in the May and July.  My dad had shingles and I DON'T want them so I'll get the shots and hope for the 93% effectiveness.

Got very sick from flu shots 3 years in a row back in the late 80's and stopped them until the last 9-10 years with NO problems with he new formulas.  Think the old ones were from a live virus while the new ones are not....again, not sure about this.

[Jess from VA]

Conspiracy theorists can't help it, it's in their nature.

I'm pretty sure my parents arranged to have me given all my immunizations.  My kids have had theirs at the recommended times.  My wife got ultrasounds with both of our kids.  Neither I nor my kids are autistic.  Some years I get the flu vaccine, other years I don't, mostly having to do with not remembering to get it at a time when it was convenient to do so.  This flu season the one person in my family who didn't get the flu vaccine got sidelined with the flu, while the rest of us were fine.  For the sake of full disclosure, this season my son had a mild fever the next day after the flu shot, but was fine the following day.

Trust in God, but tie your camel. - Arab proverb

That happened to me every time I got the overseas shots for yellow fever, malaria, although I was getting others too (it was worse than mild, I was sick with fever the whole day).  I reacted to flu vaccine a couple times, but mostly just a sore arm.  

I got the flu shot in the service for free (required) and with USDVA after service voluntarily (free), all but a couple of 26yrs.

Since I retired (10yr), no flu shot (not free), and I have not had the flu since my 20's, with or without the shot, (though some cold viruses can be bad enough you can't be sure what you have).

And since I retired and stopped sharing airspace/trains/elevators/offices/bathrooms with 10,000 people on workdays (and a wife who shared them with more), I have not had a single cold virus (or flu) one time.  And I am not Howard Hughes locked in a room, I do go into public from time to time (without a mask).

I don't tie my camel, but I do lock my doors.  

And I've been looking for a fake claymore mine to mount on my front door under my peep hole (which will show, but not be touched behind my locked storm door).  I'm a friendly neighbor and don't get many door-to-door visitors, but I like to set the tone with strangers (or officials).



 

[Savago]

For reference: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-vaccines-autism/measles-vaccine-doesnt-cause-autism-even-in-high-risk-kids-idUSKCN1QL2B7

Quote: "In the current study, researchers examined data on 657,461 children. During this time, 6,517 kids were diagnosed with autism.

Kids who got the MMR vaccine were seven percent **less** likely to develop autism than children who didn’t get vaccinated, researchers report in the Annals of Internal Medicine".

[Serk]

If you think about the high prevalance of Autism among scientists and doctors, and that those are the very people who create vaccines, you could make a pretty convincing argument that Autism causes vaccines... 

[..]

Given the recent outbreak of measles in the Northwest, I got curious what is the opinion on the subject you guys have and if you had your kids immunized.

If you haven't them have all the recommended vaccines, which ones (if any) have them received?

Also, when a kid, did your parents vaccinate you?

And your perspective is.............................................?

To me is a no-brainer: the benefits far outweigh any potential risks, specially for deadly diseases.

 

Many who haven't traveled to / lived in "problem" countries tend to have very large blinkers on.

[Serk]

Many who haven't traveled to / lived in "problem" countries tend to have very large blinkers on.

Heh, I'd actually forgotten all the extra vaccines I had before I went to Africa for work a decade or so ago.... They went down one arm and up the other.

You had to have a booklet proving you were current on some or they wouldn't let you through customs in Gabon. You either got back on the plane and went home or they gave you the shot right then and there.

[¿spoom]

Many who haven't traveled to / lived in "problem" countries tend to have very large blinkers on.

Heh, I'd actually forgotten all the extra vaccines I had before I went to Africa for work a decade or so ago.... They went down one arm and up the other.

You had to have a booklet proving you were current on some or they wouldn't let you through customs in Gabon. You either got back on the plane and went home or they gave you the shot right then and there.

Huh, interesting. If you'd been coming FROM Gabon by way of some country to the south of us, you could just wander in with only a kleenex

[..]

Many who haven't traveled to / lived in "problem" countries tend to have very large blinkers on.

Heh, I'd actually forgotten all the extra vaccines I had before I went to Africa for work a decade or so ago.... They went down one arm and up the other.

You had to have a booklet proving you were current on some or they wouldn't let you through customs in Gabon. You either got back on the plane and went home or they gave you the shot right then and there.

Yep, I went to the British Airways Travel clinic in SW London so they could play pin cushion on me. Only place to get that many done without a wait.

[Hooter]

Everyone here has their beliefs when it comes to this(and all) issue. Some religions even weigh into this when it comes to their church membership. I read here about employment and mandatory innoculations. I think these mandates protect workers, their families and even the public if you go that far. I was one of those employers. I mandated that everyone of my firefighters go through a complete "hepatitis" series. This series protects everyone they come in contact with including themselves.

Reasoning behind that mandate is because of the consistent contact with bodily fluids where this disease may be transmitted. We were a full service department running medicals, extrications and body removal. Possibility of contracting hepatitis was greatly enhanced. I didn't want my personnel taking that crap home. Thus my mandate.

Another mandate was yearly physicals. You wouldn't believe what that found. High blood pressure, heart problems and skin cancer. I was part of the high blood pressure and skin cancer finds. Not an inoculation but an employer mandate. In my opinion, both were necessary!

I had personnel that asked what happened if they didn't take part in the "hep shots"? I informed them verbally and in writing that failure to participate would result in the following. Inoculation: you do not respond to vehicle accidents, medicals or be involved in any patient care, body recovery / removal was out as well.  I forgot to mention yearly TB testing was also mandatory.

Department physicals; failure to comply may result in your termination. If refused a member had 30 days to have a complete physical performed by a physician of their choice. Department physicals were free. Opt out, you pay for one with your doctor. Failure to meet the requirement ( department provided or personal) resulted in termination. The physical requirement saved a few of my personnel lives and avoided a possible on scene issue.

So, I was one of those employers that mandated inoculation. IMHO both my mandates are the same. They protect the individual, the membership, their families, and all around them.

Again, I don't care what individual people do. It's up to everyone to be happy with that decision no matter what the outcome. It's a personal choice.

[¿spoom]

Many diseases have (had) been virtually wiped out in the US because of vaccines. Now they're coming back because of open borders and being caught by those not vaccinated. Some personal choices affect too many people to be unregulated. Like speed limits in school zones, how fast I go cannot be a personal choice. The concept is noble, but unless one lives on a small island, some things are interdependent. Personally, I absolutely support barring non-immunized children from public schools, hospitals, etc.

[..]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6940401/1-000-unvaccinated-Brooklyn-children-received-MMR-shot-week.html

[98valk]

Many diseases have (had) been virtually wiped out in the US because of vaccines. Now they're coming back because of open borders and being caught by those not vaccinated. Some personal choices affect too many people to be unregulated. Like speed limits in school zones, how fast I go cannot be a personal choice. The concept is noble, but unless one lives on a small island, some things are interdependent. Personally, I absolutely support barring non-immunized children from public schools, hospitals, etc.

problem is vac shots don't give life long immunity as does getting the virus in the first place. a high 75-90% of the people coming down with measles and mumps already had their shots as children (this was that case of the outbreak in california a few yrs ago) In philadelphia colleges mumps outbreak recently was also the case and most students reported they had both mumps shots as children. getting mumps after puberty is highly dangerous and many come down with menigintis. so now the college kids are required to get that shot. the money tree just keeps flowing to the drug companies, that have caused a bigger problem.

[Oss]

No doubt that the theory of immunization has saved countless millions from diseases

Once upon a time if you had 10 kids maybe 3 may live past childhood

Every family if you travel in time back far enough has horror stories

But on the other side B I G business left unchecked does NOT care about us only their profits

That does not mean everyone working for a drug company is complicit, only that the person watching the henhouse should not be the same fox making the $

My kids are vaccinated  I dont take flu shots  I try to stay away from Mercury in any amount.

Wish the ingredients and process of each vaccine was public knowledge  That would help dispell the suspicions of the public and if it turns out that a company knowingly hurt people I have no problem with shooting the CEO, President and who ever ignored the facts to make the money.  

As to the question do vaccines cause autism?  I have no idea but the numbers are up, way up, but so is the temperature. (I think that is a function of the sun over time but I havent been alive forever.)

I have a nephew with aspergers, smart kid and a friend with a kid with severe autism who is a good kid but very limited compared to an otherwise normal kid.  Love em both, sure hope nothing we do in the name of being safe turns out to be the opposite.

[Chrisj CMA]

I got mine. My kids got there's. Parents should pay heavy fines for not getting shots for their kids.

[Serk]

I got mine. My kids got there's. Parents should pay heavy fines for not getting shots for their kids.

They often do. The highest fines imaginable. Sadly, you can't fix stupid. 

[98valk]

I got mine. My kids got there's. Parents should pay heavy fines for not getting shots for their kids.

so now all of the kids who got the mumps shots are getting the mumps now when in college, which now can be life threatening. proving the vac shots do not provide life time immunity. if they were allowed to naturally get the mumps as a child when it is not life threatening they would never get them again.
u have to read the studies which the mainstream media don't let people know about. even the recent mumps cases of colleges in philadelphia, after one day in the news, they remove the part that all of the kids coming down with stated they had both shots as kids. The CDC was asking the questions.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

Below is my take on vaccines.
I must say before hand, my Mother-in-law is one of those very unlucky people who got polio from the early vaccine, as did many other kids. While I realize that can't be known for sure at this late date. A few months after getting the vaccine, she came down with polio. And while she can walk, she has lived with a smaller, weaker leg since childhood because of it. My understanding is, even at this stage of her life, her polio could become active again and cause her more harm.

Due to illegals bringing formerly eradicated diseases back into our country and infecting unvaccinated and vaccinated citizens, we as a people need to be less lax when it comes to vaccinating our kids against the ancient, deadly diseases such as measles, mumps, TB, tetanus (called Lockjaw for a reason) and the like, probably chicken pox too. Although getting chicken pox gives you the same immunity as being vaccinated, it leaves you open to shingles later in life which isn’t much fun.

However it should also be acknowledged that the medical industry's constant push to inject us with more vaccines every year (in particular flu shots) causes many people to question all vaccines. I think the rational thing to do is get the tried and true vaccines which protect us from the old, horrible diseases.

However, doing so blindly makes little sense. Do you ask your physician what each vaccine is and how long it's been on the market? You should. Also, how long has it been a recommended vaccine? Is it filling a nonexistent void just to transfer money from your pocket to theirs? A 20 year old vaccine is pretty well proven to be safe. A new vaccine designed to allow charging more than can be charged for the old vaccines I question, and generally ask for the older, better proven product. It's not our fault if they make less money from it.

The medical industry’s ultimate goal, their “hen laying golden eggs” is to make yearly flu vaccines mandatory. What a money maker that would be for them. Imagine owning a business where every citizen, young or old is required to buy your product every year for the rest of their life? A product which at best, will only work 40-50% of the time? Further, imagine you are federally protected from lawsuits if your product injures or kills someone like the vaccine industry is?

If the flu vaccine was made mandatory, then in a year or two they would claim two or three or more yearly vaccines are needed, that one isn’t enough and again, you'd have no choice if they passed enough money around in Congress. The flu vaccine is new every year, consequently, although I’ve had it a time or two with no ill or good effects, I think it's too risky now and always refuse it.

The safety of our older vaccines is pretty well proven and I personally trust them because of it.

However, it should be remembered, we are constantly bombarded with horror stories of new meds causing horrible side effects. Diabetes meds which cause gangrene of the genitals, Good grief! https://medtruth.com/fda-fourniers-gangrene-sglt2-diabetes-drugs/  The list of drug horrors goes on and on and gets longer every day.
These drugs also generate huge profits. Both in initial use and in costs associated with treating their side effects.

Don't just assume they have your best interests at heart, question everything, educate yourself and make informed decisions. Many people just blindly trust “modern medicine”. It should be remembered that every medial horror of the past was “modern medicine” at the time. It should also be remembered that in 30 years today’s medical practices will be laughed at and considered barbaric.

My Father died horribly of misdiagnosed cancer in 1977. One of my sons died at one month old after being taken to the Dr. repeatedly for a failure to thrive but nothing could be found wrong although something obviously was.

Shorty after my Mom got out of the hospital years ago the hospital sent a “sorry your wife died” card to my step dad, however Mom was alive and well and none too amused. A few years ago, I nearly lost a leg due to a medical misadventure after having a bone plate unsuccessfully installed. The medical industry made money installing it poorly, and they made money removing it when it didn’t work. Then they made more money taking care of the subsequent infection and months on a wound vac.

My point is, make use of the medical industry when you must, but trust the big players in that industry not at all.