Kids vaccination: did you immunize you children and what are your thoughts

[Savago]

Given the recent outbreak of measles in the Northwest, I got curious what is the opinion on the subject you guys have and if you had your kids immunized.

If you haven't them have all the recommended vaccines, which ones (if any) have them received?

Also, when a kid, did your parents vaccinate you?

[98valk]

the vaccines caused the outbreak.  already vaccinated children came down with measles.

https://www.intellihub.com/cdc-lies-measles-outbreaks-confirmed-among-children-already-vaccinated/

they don't work as used today and actually cause more harm and health problems and death. 

http://www.vaccine-injury.info/gardasil.cfm
The Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System shows the following adverse reactions to Gardasil (as of April 2018):
Deaths 419
Disabled 2,634
Did Not Recover 11,507
Abnormal Pap Smear 648
Cervical Dysplasia 304
Cervical Cancer 135
Life-Threatening 1,703
Admitted to Emergency Room 15,278
Hospitalized 5,710
Extended Hospital Stay 429
Serious Adverse Events 8,343
Total Adverse Events 57,287

http://prn.fm/toxic-science-flu-vaccines-gary-null/

http://www.vaccine-injury.info/gary-null.cfm

http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/nullandgaleexposevaccinefraud15oct09.shtml

[Savago]

I was vaccinated when I was a kid (and same for my older brother).

Also ensured that my daughter received the recommended vaccines (e.g. measles, whooping cough, polio, etc).

Back when I was a kid, I had a friend that their parents skipped the polio vaccine and he developed the disease. As a result, he had to use crutches and kids were always picking on him. Poor chap.

The only vaccine that I personally avoid is for flu: had it twice (years ago) but had a way worst flu than expected. I take some vitamins and so far was successful to avoid flu for the last 5 years.

@98valk: interesting links.

[Serk]

I've got a friend that only dates anti-vax women..... He figures that way if she gets pregnant he's only on the hook for 4-8 years  of child support instead of the full 18.....

.....and just like unvaccinated children, that joke will never get old.  :'(

Instead of referring to anti-science people as anti-vax, I generally prefer to refer to them as pro-plague.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo

As someone with Autism, I kinda resent people who say, in effect, even if vaccines cause Autism (WHICH THEY SNUGGLING DON'T!) they'd rather they have their children die of preventable diseases than have Autism.

Yes, this is something I'll get up on my soapbox and yell loudly about.

(Even saying all that, I still don't think it should be government mandated)

[rocketray]

lots of controversy out there--vaccines are good for the herd not the individual I've read

[Savago]

Instead of referring to anti-science people as anti-vax, I generally prefer to refer to them as pro-plague.

LOL!

Or 'plague enthusiasts'.
 

[98valk]

FACT: Vaccines create temporal (short-term) antibodies ONLY. This is the sole requirement from the FDA in order to get approval to sell the vaccine. If you read the vaccine product insert written by the pharmaceutical company that creates the vaccine, it clearly states the increase in temporal antibodies as the basis for proof the vaccine works.

It also gives the percentage of people that had an increase in antibodies after the vaccination. Sometimes this number is quite low in the 50% range, defying any real herd immunity protection theory (more on the myth of herd immunity below).
Antibodies do NOT equal immunity

But science has long known that antibodies alone do NOT create real immunity. Some people with high levels of antibodies can be exposed to an illness and still get sick, while others without antibodies can be exposed and not get sick. Dr. Merrill Chase, nicknamed the Grandfather of Immunology for his pioneering work, did clear-cut research on this issue back in the 1950s. His results are clear: antibody levels don’t determine immunity. More on his work below.

The immune system is a highly complex system and science is still in its infancy understanding how it functions. In fact, immunology textbooks were completely rewritten recently after a University of Virginia study finally proving the link between the gut and the brain through the lymphatic system. Before this 2014 study, immunology books were adamant there was no link.

    Doctors are never taught the ingredients in vaccines, the way they disrupt the immune system or the research proving antibodies do not create immunity.

But doctors, who are only trained to promote vaccines and not in the science of vaccination, will never tell you this. In fact, most doctors don’t know since their main sources of vaccine information come from pharmaceutical company representatives paid to sell the vaccine, or the CDC, a government agency that has been called out many times for taking pharmaceutical industry money and collects royalties on vaccines sales.
If vaccines create immunity, why are there multiple cases of outbreaks in vaccinated populations?

Since vaccines are given by injection, they bypass the normal immune pathway and therefore do not trigger the cellular immune system, which science shows to be the main component necessary to create immunity.

As a result, there are numerous reports of outbreaks in fully vaccinated populations, with booster shots not making a difference (studies here). Since there is no benefit of immunity with vaccines, yet the very real risk of side effects and reactions, the question is who really benefits from an outdated vaccine program?

Clearly, vaccines only benefit the pharmaceutical and medical industry, which uses vaccines to create health issues and customers for its prescription drug market and medical treatments. The global vaccine market is worth around $58 BILLION a year with an almost doubling expected in the next decade. As usual, the industry puts profits before patients.

https://www.learntherisk.org/immunity/

[98valk]

So if vaccines don’t create immunity, what do they create? They create future customers for pharmaceutical companies. How? Because the toxic ingredients create health issues and these toxins accumulate in the body causing more issues the more vaccines are received. This is one reason the US vaccine schedule is constantly increasing and now requires 72 vaccines before a child goes to school.

Viruses reduce later health issues

Before childhood vaccines became a huge moneymaker for pharmaceutical companies, these issues were considered “normal” and there was no fear around catching them. Any long-lasting complications were extremely rare (99.9% of cases recovered within a few days with no lasting issues). In fact, many experts argue that childhood illnesses are good for our immune system.

Recently science has discovered that having a childhood illness REDUCES later health issues, like cancer (Studies here). More of the benefits of viruses here.


herd immunity through vaccination is pure theory and myth.


The Myth of Herd Immunity

Herd immunity can only come from naturally caught illnesses — NOT from vaccines. Some people may be old enough to remember that just 20 years ago, measles and chicken pox were benign illnesses that, for centuries, were a rite of passage for children.
Herd immunity is only proven in groups where the population was exposed to an illness through the natural immune pathway and has NEVER been proven to exist within vaccinated populations.
Plus, as vaccine inserts clearly state: not all people vaccinated develop an antibody response, which as we now know is not immunity anyway. Therefore the idea of herd immunity through vaccination is pure theory and myth.

Just because it’s contagious doesn’t it mean it’s deadly. In fact, lot of research (studies here) shows a health benefit of these typical childhood illnesses — like reducing cancer risk, lowering risk of heart disease and reducing dementia risk.
The Deadly Impossibility Of Herd Immunity Through Vaccination

By Russell Blaylock MD, neurosurgeon



    In the original description of herd immunity, the protection to the population at large occurred only if people contracted the infections naturally. The reason for this is that naturally-acquired immunity lasts for a lifetime. The vaccine proponents quickly latched onto this concept and applied it to vaccine-induced immunity. But, there was one major problem – vaccine-induced immunity lasted for only a relatively short period [if at all] and then this applies only to humoral immunity.

    This is why they began to suggest boosters for most vaccines, even the common childhood infections such as chickenpox, measles, mumps, and rubella.

What this means is that at least half the population, have had no vaccine-induced immunity against any of these diseases for which they had been vaccinated very early in life. In essence, at least 50% or more of the population was unprotected for decades.

We have all lived for at least 30 to 40 years with 50% or less of the population having vaccine protection. So even in theory, herd immunity has not existed in this country for many decades and no resurgent epidemics have occurred. Vaccine-induced herd immunity is a lie used to frighten doctors, public-health officials, other medical personnel and the public into accepting vaccinations.”

Click here to read the full article

https://www.learntherisk.org/immunity/

[Gavin_Sons]

i'll take my chances and keep my kids vaccinated

[Alberta Patriot]

i'll take my chances and keep my kids vaccinated

Smallpox was virtually eliminated from the face of the earth...exception...third world isolated locations.
Shall we encourage a revisit of this bloody awful disease?

[Jess from VA]

I got them all in my childhood, and I lived.

I got way more exotic (overseas) vaccinations in the military, and I lived (but I passed out and fell off my chair and slobbered all over myself in front of the whole overseas deployment team once (Desert Storm), when they gave me like 8 of them all at the same time, in both arms).  Then they blamed it on me for having needle aversion.  It wasn't needles, it was all that dope hitting my heart (or something) at the same time.

In second grade, my whole family lined up for a flu shot at the dr's office once.  The nurse looked down at me and asked if I was Richard.  No ma'am, that's my daddy.  So 15 seconds later, she gave me my daddy's shot, and the extra strength shot made me very sick and sore.  But I lived.

Shots are OK, but you haven't lived until, right in the middle of a root canal, he drips the Novocain from the syringe right down the hole onto your live, exposed root.  Holy crap does that get your attention.  You couldn't get any stiffer if you were dead and stuck in the freezer for a month.  Of course, this was to save me the pain from the root canal.

The Novocain in each side of the scrotum for a vascetomy was also memorable.  But instead of hitting you like a hammer during a root canal, it was more like having your chestnuts roasting on an open fire.  

I had no kids, so I never had to deal with those choices.    

  

[98valk]

i'll take my chances and keep my kids vaccinated

Smallpox was virtually eliminated from the face of the earth...exception...third world isolated locations.
Shall we encourage a revisit of this bloody awful disease?

Lets be crystal clear. Injected vac shots are the problem. causes the bodies immune system not to work as God intended. Small pox vac was skin scratch and sugar cubes, which is how the body is designed to work and that vac worked.

[..]

Do some really believe the twaddle they cut and paste?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Do some really believe the twaddle they cut and paste?

I think so. 

[Robert]

Some are important but most I would not do, not all the vaccines are from diseases that are life and death and there are more and more vaccines out there. In the old days used to be 2 or 3 now anywhere between 54 to 70 and the flu is included in there.

Truth is why do they not disclose what is in the shots? Why also dont they disclose what strains of a particular illness the vaccine covers. Flu shots do not cover all strains so why do it?  Formaldehyde, Mercury two of the ingredients that can be present in vaccines.

 Some third world countries have higher amounts of these in the shots, so if they are for protection and we ship third world countries higher percentages of bad things in the vaccines then why should anyone trust that they would not do it here and why would they not care just as much for third world kids as here? So its the old story why am I going to trust someone else with my kids life or mine for that matter that thinks like this. 

Truth is also many diseases that they had a hard time curing before are now fairly easily cured and some even once cured you build a natural immunity to.

Some pediatricians want to go one step further if all other attempts to induce compliance fail: calling child protective services to report the maltreatment of a child.

[hubcapsc]

(Even saying all that, I still don't think it should be government mandated)

Perhaps, but vaccination should be required to go to public school...

-Mike

[Serk]

(Even saying all that, I still don't think it should be government mandated)

Perhaps, but vaccination should be required to go to public school...

-Mike

Semi concur...

I'm okay with unvaccinated crotch goblins going to public schools, but they should go to separate classes, or wear hazmat suits or something along those lines...

Of course, with smaller schools, or with teachers unwilling to be exposed to walking plague spreaders, that makes things a bit more complicated...

[98valk]

Some are important but most I would not do, not all the vaccines are from diseases that are life and death and there are more and more vaccines out there. In the old days used to be 2 or 3 now anywhere between 54 to 70 and the flu is included in there.

Truth is why do they not disclose what is in the shots? Why also dont they disclose what strains of a particular illness the vaccine covers. Flu shots do not cover all strains so why do it?  Formaldehyde, Mercury two of the ingredients that can be present in vaccines.

 Some third world countries have higher amounts of these in the shots, so if they are for protection and we ship third world countries higher percentages of bad things in the vaccines then why should anyone trust that they would not do it here and why would they not care just as much for third world kids as here? So its the old story why am I going to trust someone else with my kids life or mine for that matter that thinks like this. 

Truth is also many diseases that they had a hard time curing before are now fairly easily cured and some even once cured you build a natural immunity to.

Some pediatricians want to go one step further if all other attempts to induce compliance fail: calling child protective services to report the maltreatment of a child.

sterilization is one goal.  Lets remember Bill Gates is a big supporter including $$$ of vacs and is also a big supporter including $$$ of the UN. The UN has had population control programs is place and pushes them since the 1960s. If one reads UN agenda websites one will find the info. I've been reading it before there was the al gore internet.
http://www.truthandaction.org/un-vaccines-sterilize-500000-women-in-kenya/2/

Mass Sterilization of Millions of African Girls through Tetanus Vaccine Scandal Broadens as Kenyan Laboratory Attacked
https://vaccineimpact.com/2018/mass-sterilization-of-millions-of-african-girls-through-tetanus-vaccine-scandal-broadens-as-kenyan-laboratory-attacked/

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/16-year-old-girl-became-infertile-from-gardasil-vaccine-british-medical-jou    Dr. Deirdre Little, the Australian physician who treated the girl, provides solid evidence that Gardasil caused the destruction of the girl's fertility.
 how many american girls daughters have become infertile?

https://vactruth.com/2013/07/20/vaccines-can-cause-infertility/
I have been investigating whether there is a proven link between vaccines and infertility. What I have uncovered will shock many readers because I have discovered that innocent women and girls in developing countries have been deliberately experimented on, with the use of infertility vaccines, for many years.

They are not the only victims. Recently several vaccines used worldwide have also been found to cause infertility, including the HPV vaccines and many of the swine flu vaccines.

https://rense.com/general79/vaxcc.htm
And then, the latest stunt: Vaccination of 12 year old girls in many countries ­ allegedly against the HPV virus which might (or might not) eventually cause Cervical Cancer. Target group: Girls in the age of just becoming fertile. In some states mandatory, in others just heavily propagandized.

[Beardo]

Anti vaxxers...that’s just natural selection at work. People who are educated by Jenny McCarthy or random internet sites, and are also likely flat earthers or moon landing denyers, probably shouldn’t have been able to figure out how to procreate. Alas, they have. So by not vaccinating their children, dying from disease is just nature’s way of correcting that mistake.

Unfortunately, it’s not just their children that will die off, babies who haven’t been vaccinated yet may be taken with them.

[98valk]

Anti vaxxers...that’s just natural selection at work. People who are educated by Jenny McCarthy or random internet sites, and are also likely flat earthers or moon landing denyers, probably shouldn’t have been able to figure out how to procreate. Alas, they have. So by not vaccinating their children, dying from disease is just nature’s way of correcting that mistake.

Unfortunately, it’s not just their children that will die off, babies who haven’t been vaccinated yet may be taken with them.

foolish uneducated statements. 
here I'll help u to be educated
The unvaccinated are healthier.

Dr. Mawson’s analysis of parent data reveal that:

– The odds of ear infection were almost four fold higher among their vaccinated children
– The odds of pneumonia were significantly higher among the vaccinated children
– The odds of chicken pox and whooping cough were higher in the unvaccinated children as compared to the vaccinated children
– The odds of ear tube placement were eight-fold higher than their unvaccinated children

– The vaccinated children were also significantly more likely than the unvaccinated children to have been diagnosed with the following
(% in vaccinated vs % in unvaccinated):

    allergic rhinitis (hay fever)- 10.4% vs. 0.4%)
    other allergies- (22.2% vs. 6.9%)
    eczema/atopic dermatitis- (9.5% vs. 3.6%)
    a learning disability- (5.7% vs. 1.2%)
    ADHD- (4.7% vs. 1.0%)
    autism spectrum disorder- (4.7% vs. 1.0%)
    any neurodevelopmental disorder- (i.e., learning disability, ADHD or ASD) (10.5% vs. 3.1%)
    any chronic illness- (44.0% vs. 25.0%)

– The vaccinated children were also more likely to have increased healthcare utilization – to have had ear tubes placed; to have used antibiotics, to have used allergy and fever medications; to have visited a doctor for a health issue in the previous year, and to have been hospitalized.

Since Mawson’s data were published last spring, there have been near-hysterical calls by certain individuals for the retraction of Dr. Mawson’s published results, even fake rumors that the published data have been retracted.
Chronic Disease on the Rise

According to Barbara Loe Fisher of the National Vaccine Information Center:

    1 highly vaccinated child in 45 develops autism in America today;24 1 in 6 has learning disabilities; 25  1 in 9 has asthma;26 1 in 10 has ADHD;27 1 in 12 suffers with depression;28 ,29 1 in 400 become diabetic30 and millions more struggle with other kinds of immune and brain disorders marked by chronic inflammation in the brain and body.31,32, 33, 34

http://www.vaxchoicevt.com/science/studies-comparing-vaccinated-to-unvaccinated-populations/

[Serk]

Please, I beg of ya'll, check out this website, read the material on it, it is highly researched, scientifically proven information on this topic:

http://howvaccinescauseautism.org/

[Beardo]

Sorry, not gonna bite.

Just as I wouldn’t waste my time arguing with a flat earther, I won’t waste my time arguing with an anti-vaxxer.

[Gavin_Sons]

Anti vaxxers...that’s just natural selection at work. People who are educated by Jenny McCarthy or random internet sites, and are also likely flat earthers or moon landing denyers, probably shouldn’t have been able to figure out how to procreate. Alas, they have. So by not vaccinating their children, dying from disease is just nature’s way of correcting that mistake.

Unfortunately, it’s not just their children that will die off, babies who haven’t been vaccinated yet may be taken with them.

foolish uneducated statements. 
here I'll help u to be educated
The unvaccinated are healthier.

Dr. Mawson’s analysis of parent data reveal that:

– The odds of ear infection were almost four fold higher among their vaccinated children
– The odds of pneumonia were significantly higher among the vaccinated children
– The odds of chicken pox and whooping cough were higher in the unvaccinated children as compared to the vaccinated children
– The odds of ear tube placement were eight-fold higher than their unvaccinated children

– The vaccinated children were also significantly more likely than the unvaccinated children to have been diagnosed with the following
(% in vaccinated vs % in unvaccinated):

    allergic rhinitis (hay fever)- 10.4% vs. 0.4%)
    other allergies- (22.2% vs. 6.9%)
    eczema/atopic dermatitis- (9.5% vs. 3.6%)
    a learning disability- (5.7% vs. 1.2%)
    ADHD- (4.7% vs. 1.0%)
    autism spectrum disorder- (4.7% vs. 1.0%)
    any neurodevelopmental disorder- (i.e., learning disability, ADHD or ASD) (10.5% vs. 3.1%)
    any chronic illness- (44.0% vs. 25.0%)

– The vaccinated children were also more likely to have increased healthcare utilization – to have had ear tubes placed; to have used antibiotics, to have used allergy and fever medications; to have visited a doctor for a health issue in the previous year, and to have been hospitalized.

Since Mawson’s data were published last spring, there have been near-hysterical calls by certain individuals for the retraction of Dr. Mawson’s published results, even fake rumors that the published data have been retracted.
Chronic Disease on the Rise

According to Barbara Loe Fisher of the National Vaccine Information Center:

    1 highly vaccinated child in 45 develops autism in America today;24 1 in 6 has learning disabilities; 25  1 in 9 has asthma;26 1 in 10 has ADHD;27 1 in 12 suffers with depression;28 ,29 1 in 400 become diabetic30 and millions more struggle with other kinds of immune and brain disorders marked by chronic inflammation in the brain and body.31,32, 33, 34

http://www.vaxchoicevt.com/science/studies-comparing-vaccinated-to-unvaccinated-populations/

Guess my kids are lucky to not have ADHD or autism. I'll keep with vaccines for my boys.

[Willow]

Sorry, not gonna bite.

Just as I wouldn’t waste my time arguing with a flat earther, I won’t waste my time arguing with an anti-vaxxer.

Good choice, Beardo.  People got tired of listening to Chicken Little also.  They didn't believe him when he was correct but then the odds in this case, even if correct, are twenty to one or more.

I'm with the crowd and not with the Chicken.   

[The emperor has no clothes]

Sorry, not gonna bite.

Just as I wouldn’t waste my time arguing with a flat earther, I won’t waste my time arguing with an anti-vaxxer.

Good choice, Beardo.  People got tired of listening to Chicken Little also.  They didn't believe him when he was correct but then the odds in this case, even if correct, are twenty to one or more.

I'm with the crowd and not with the Chicken.   

[f6gal]

The anti-vaccine crap has been debunked... repeatedly.  Too bad we can't bring back a few souls that witnessed the devastation wrought by rampant diseases.  Today, the debilitating and lethal natures of vaccine preventable diseases are vastly underestimated.  These diseases do not occur as isolated cases, but as widespread pestilence.
 
As an example, consider small pox.  Small pox is a terrifying infectious disease that claims 80% of the lives of affected children and causes blindness in 65%- 85% of those that manage to survive.  In the 19th century the disease stole 300 to 500 million lives.  During one dire European epidemic, one of every seven children was dying from small pox.  As recently as 1967, yet another small pox epidemic claimed an estimated two million additional lives.  In the decade following the 1967 outbreak, the efficiency of small pox vaccination was clearly and indisputably validated; when this latest scourge prompted a global vaccination program, small pox was effectively eradicated.

Measles, mumps, and pertussis (whooping cough) are on the rise in the U.S.  Why stop there?  Let's bring back smallpox, polio, and all the other catastrophic PREVENTABLE diseases.  

*Stepping off my soapbox*

[The emperor has no clothes]

The anti-vaccine crap has been debunked... repeatedly.  Too bad we can't bring back a few souls that witnessed the devastation wrought by rampant diseases.  Today, the debilitating and lethal natures of vaccine preventable diseases are vastly underestimated.  These diseases do not occur as isolated cases, but as widespread pestilence.
 
As an example, consider small pox.  Small pox is a terrifying infectious disease that claims 80% of the lives of affected children and causes blindness in 65%- 85% of those that manage to survive.  In the 19th century the disease stole 300 to 500 million lives.  During one dire European epidemic, one of every seven children was dying from small pox.  As recently as 1967, yet another small pox epidemic claimed an estimated two million additional lives.  In the decade following the 1967 outbreak, the efficiency of small pox vaccination was clearly and indisputably validated; when this latest scourge prompted a global vaccination program, small pox was effectively eradicated.

Measles, mumps, and pertussis (whooping cough) are on the rise in the U.S.  Why stop there?  Let's bring back smallpox, polio, and all the other catastrophic PREVENTABLE diseases.  

*Stepping off my soapbox*

Thanks. It needs to be said. Probably over and over.

On a side note. I used to be really proud of my small pox vaccination scar. I think I must have been at the tail end of when they did it by hand, scratching with a needle. My younger siblings all got the gun that gave a uniform looking scar. Mine looked bad ass ! Sadly, I'm so old now I can barely even make it out.

[Serk]

On a side note. I used to be really proud of my small pox vaccination scar. I think I must have been at the tail end of when they did it by hand, scratching with a needle. My younger siblings all got the gun that gave a uniform looking scar. Mine looked bad ass ! Sadly, I'm so old now I can barely even make it out.

If you make it to Taos I'll show you mine.....

(That could be taken SO wrong!)

Most people my age don't have one at all, I got vaccinated courtesy of Uncle Sam since we were deploying overseas, as a wiggly toddler. Evidently the Air Force used a pneumatic multi needle gun contraption thing that when it was pressed into the arm would fire forecefully.

I was very wiggly and not cooperative. I've got 7 scars in a cluster.

[The emperor has no clothes]

On a side note. I used to be really proud of my small pox vaccination scar. I think I must have been at the tail end of when they did it by hand, scratching with a needle. My younger siblings all got the gun that gave a uniform looking scar. Mine looked bad ass ! Sadly, I'm so old now I can barely even make it out.

If you make it to Taos I'll show you mine.....

(That could be taken SO wrong!)

Most people my age don't have one at all, I got vaccinated courtesy of Uncle Sam since we were deploying overseas, as a wiggly toddler. Evidently the Air Force used a pneumatic multi needle gun contraption thing that when it was pressed into the arm would fire forecefully.

I was very wiggly and not cooperative. I've got 7 scars in a cluster.

one of my most vivid memories of boot camp involved those guns. A hundred or more of us were lining both sides of the hallway as they would go down and shoot. Guys were flinching which caused blood to fly, then guys were fainting at the sight and fear of that. It was great ! My buddy next to me was poring sweat out by the time they got to us. If I remember correctly my brothers got the needle gun like you are talking about. The ones they had in boot camp had no needles, just air pressure.

[J.Mencalice]

In 1954, actually knew a kid who lived his life in an iron lung until he reached the age of 17. 
Then he died.

"Load up the needle, doc, I'm ready" was all I needed to tell Dr. Reilly when it was my turn.

So many nut jobs...so little time.

[..]

The anti-vaccine crap has been debunked... repeatedly.  Too bad we can't bring back a few souls that witnessed the devastation wrought by rampant diseases.  Today, the debilitating and lethal natures of vaccine preventable diseases are vastly underestimated.  These diseases do not occur as isolated cases, but as widespread pestilence.
 
As an example, consider small pox.  Small pox is a terrifying infectious disease that claims 80% of the lives of affected children and causes blindness in 65%- 85% of those that manage to survive.  In the 19th century the disease stole 300 to 500 million lives.  During one dire European epidemic, one of every seven children was dying from small pox.  As recently as 1967, yet another small pox epidemic claimed an estimated two million additional lives.  In the decade following the 1967 outbreak, the efficiency of small pox vaccination was clearly and indisputably validated; when this latest scourge prompted a global vaccination program, small pox was effectively eradicated.

Measles, mumps, and pertussis (whooping cough) are on the rise in the U.S.  Why stop there?  Let's bring back smallpox, polio, and all the other catastrophic PREVENTABLE diseases.  

*Stepping off my soapbox*

  1,000

[..]

I got all the vaccines a kid would needed having been born in Singapore and then living in Cyprus and Germany and travelling to quite  a few less than civilized countries.
 
I was going to drive a mini bus of cross country tourists to Iran from the UK. Had to get a bunch of vaccines in a hurry.

I think it was 6 in one arm and 5 on the other.

Survived all of them and have never had a contagious problem apart from chicken pox.

Don't want to have your kids vaccinated then keep them away from everyone else you selfish plonkers.

[98valk]

The anti-vaccine crap has been debunked... repeatedly.  Too bad we can't bring back a few souls that witnessed the devastation wrought by rampant diseases.  Today, the debilitating and lethal natures of vaccine preventable diseases are vastly underestimated.  These diseases do not occur as isolated cases, but as widespread pestilence.
 
As an example, consider small pox.  Small pox is a terrifying infectious disease that claims 80% of the lives of affected children and causes blindness in 65%- 85% of those that manage to survive.  In the 19th century the disease stole 300 to 500 million lives.  During one dire European epidemic, one of every seven children was dying from small pox.  As recently as 1967, yet another small pox epidemic claimed an estimated two million additional lives.  In the decade following the 1967 outbreak, the efficiency of small pox vaccination was clearly and indisputably validated; when this latest scourge prompted a global vaccination program, small pox was effectively eradicated.

Measles, mumps, and pertussis (whooping cough) are on the rise in the U.S.  Why stop there?  Let's bring back smallpox, polio, and all the other catastrophic PREVENTABLE diseases.  

*Stepping off my soapbox*

you are wrong. read the latest studies FROM DOCTORS and other professionals who are exposing the truth.  otherwise it seems on this board the medical field and drug companies did a great job in fooling the public. Remember the vac industry is a multi-billion dollar industry and Dr Oz does not allow his own children to get shot up, yet he pushed it on all others to preserve his huge paychecks.
Did u see the medical reports I posted which clearly state outbreak of measles is from people who WERE vaccinated already for measles and those who had Measles Vaccination came down with measles. It can't be any clearer than that.
"As we reported back in 2011, the Institute of Medicine even admitted in a report claiming that MMR vaccines don't cause autism that the vaccines can, in fact, cause measles. On page 574, in fact, this report claims that the evidence "convincingly supports" the notion that MMR vaccines cause measles."
https://www.naturalnews.com/048391_measles_MMR_vaccines_Disneyland.html

[Jess from VA]

I tend to agree with majority here.

There may well be credible evidence of some problems, but this is probably the case of needing to do the greatest good for the greatest number.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism

Schools (and epidemics) seem to be the key factor.

But I tell you when the military came out with an Anthrax vaccine policy (5 doses over a period of 18 months), and talked about court martialling anybody who refused, I was very conflicted.  I didn't want it, didn't want to get court martialled, and didn't want to court martial anybody who didn't want it.

It seemed too much like the Marines they stuck in a ditch close to atomic tests. 

 

[98valk]

Willow, I see there is a lot of mild name calling to me, and zero posts have been removed of those people. although it seems I do something mild in other posts and I'm Zapped. that's ok shoot the messenger.

[Savago]

Please, I beg of ya'll, check out this website, read the material on it, it is highly researched, scientifically proven information on this topic:

http://howvaccinescauseautism.org/

Pure class!
 

[..]

Given the recent outbreak of measles in the Northwest, I got curious what is the opinion on the subject you guys have and if you had your kids immunized.

If you haven't them have all the recommended vaccines, which ones (if any) have them received?

Also, when a kid, did your parents vaccinate you?

And your perspective is..............................................???

[Psychotic Bovine]

Wasn't Patient Zero of this anti-vax stuff Jenny McCarthy?
If vaccines caused autism there would be a lot more autism.

This is kind of funny, too.

[hubcapsc]

you are wrong. read the latest studies FROM DOCTORS

Well, she works on a highway paving crew, so what does she know?  

Did u see the medical reports I posted

I scrolled back to look for medical reports but only found stuff from "intellihub" and "vaccine-injury.info".
How about something from the Journal of the American Medical Association or some other peer reviewed
scholarly medical journal?

-Mike "a lady at my church works on a highway paving crew, and I'd choke if I had to read a scholarly medical journal..."

[John Schmidt]

I got the natural vaccination back in the early 40's for both the measels and mumps....and chicken pox. I suffered through all of them 'cuz present day vax's weren't available then. Then when I was about 26 or so, I got another strain of measels, turned ugly red and blotchy all over. When I asked why I caught it the dr. told me it's a different strain or type of measels and by the time I was red and blotchy I was no longer a threat, but most definitely not socially acceptable looking like that. Got a week off with pay working for Xerox at the time in the Chicago area. As for flu shots, the early versions were a live virus and caused many a person to get sick, myself included. In recent years that's no longer the case, I get the flu shot every year now cuz I figure my immune system isn't like it was 50-60 years ago. To each their own, but when considering the danger involved by not being vaccinated I feel it's a chance not worth taking. I even had the shingles vaccination a couple years back, partly because I did have the chicken pos as a child. I plan to get the new version which is even more effective than the one I got, if you've ever seen how someone with shingles suffers you'll understand why.

(I can't believe I misspelled "meezuls" throughout my entire post/reply. Don't tell my kids I made a mistake)