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Author Topic: Neutral question about presidential politics (believe it or not)  (Read 670 times)
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« on: April 25, 2019, 06:46:52 AM »

It seems to me that presidential primaries are held if a party either does not have their member sitting as president or if their president is in his second term.

If a president in his first term is intending to run for a second term, is it automatic that primaries are not held and the sitting president is affirmed at the national convention, or do other candidates withhold their candidacy until four years later out of courtesy (or, more likely, a realistic perspective of their chances of beating a sitting president), or are there times when a sitting president has been challenged for his party's nomination?
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2019, 06:50:12 AM »

It seems to me that presidential primaries are held if a party either does not have their member sitting as president or if their president is in his second term.

If a president in his first term is intending to run for a second term, is it automatic that primaries are not held and the sitting president is affirmed at the national convention, or do other candidates withhold their candidacy until four years later out of courtesy (or, more likely, a realistic perspective of their chances of beating a sitting president), or are there times when a sitting president has been challenged for his party's nomination?
It is relatively rare. But there times when a current president has been challenged. I’m sure there are more, but the last one I remember was Edward Kennedy challenging Carter.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2019, 06:54:46 AM »

Any eligible (age, citizenship, etc)  person can run anywhere they file according to each states rules & timeline. Takes a lot of money. If they file in some early states and do well or win, it can help them advance to the next primary and helps raise money. Happens often in senate & congressional, and local races with success.  
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2019, 06:56:42 AM »

Although a first term sitting president is generally heavily favorited to win the nomination of their party, there are indeed primaries to decide that just the same. There are several Republican (In name at least) challengers that have hinted about or come out saying they will challenge President Trump for the 2020 Republican nomination.

"Those running a primary campaign against a sitting president have little chance of success—the only elected president to lose his bid for a second term in the following primary was Franklin Pierce in 1857, according to NPR—but that doesn’t mean their campaign won’t have an impact."

http://fortune.com/2019/04/22/republican-presidential-candidates-2020/
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2019, 07:10:09 AM »

A quick review of recent sitting presidents challenged in the primaries provides an interesting list.

Buchanan  -  Bush     1992
Kennedy   -   Carter   1980
Reagan     -   Ford     1976

Interestingly in these cases a sitting President who was challenged in the primaries failed to be re-elected.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2019, 07:16:43 AM »


Interesting.  If challenges to Trump have made it into the news in Canada, I hadn't seen it.

A quick review of recent sitting presidents challenged in the primaries provides an interesting list.

Buchanan  -  Bush     1992
Kennedy   -   Carter   1980
Reagan     -   Ford     1976

Interestingly in these cases a sitting President who was challenged in the primaries failed to be re-elected.

Hmm...
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2019, 07:40:49 AM »

There is one declared "R" candidate ( Bill Weld) running. There will be at least one more.

Like it or not, as it stands Trump is the only thing standing between the U.S. and socialism. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2019, 10:42:40 AM »

The thing that really bothers me the most about the presidential elections, on both sides of the tickets, is the fact that the vast majority of people running for office are pretty much all senators, congresspersons, governors, essentially all government employees. They are going to be spending the next 2-1/2 years "campaigning" for president. But they will be still collecting their government salaries and benefits, but not doing their job because they are trying to get another job.
I feel that if you want to campaign for a different political position, especially for 2+ years, you need to resign your position so someone can go in there and do the job you are supposed to be doing.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2019, 10:55:14 AM »

The thing that really bothers me the most about the presidential elections, on both sides of the tickets, is the fact that the vast majority of people running for office are pretty much all senators, congresspersons, governors, essentially all government employees. They are going to be spending the next 2-1/2 years "campaigning" for president. But they will be still collecting their government salaries and benefits, but not doing their job because they are trying to get another job.
I feel that if you want to campaign for a different political position, especially for 2+ years, you need to resign your position so someone can go in there and do the job you are supposed to be doing.

 I agree 100%. Mike Pence ender his governor reelection campaign to run for Vice president with Donald Trump in 2016..
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