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Author Topic: short ride report, with alternator issue.  (Read 742 times)
Hook#3287
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« on: May 26, 2019, 05:06:45 AM »

I met Craig, (Newvalker) for breakfast at 8am at Olde Village Grill in Sturbridge.  Great local place to get chow with home cooked, large portioned, reasonable priced breakfast & lunch.

It was a beautiful sunny brisk morning with temps in the 50's.

After eating, we headed north up 148 to the Brookfields and hopped on 9west to 202 north, all secondary roads in great condition for New England. Roll Eyes

Got off 202 and took the local roads thru Shutesbury and Levertt over to 116.

They just paved the lower part of 116 from I-91 to Colrain and they had paved from Colrain to Ashfield last year.  So other than a bridge repair in Colrain, it's all new pavement from Deerfield to Ashfield on one of the best roads in New England, certainly the best in Mass.  It reminds me of the BRP.

Great riding on a beautiful day with low traffic, being a Saturday morning on a holiday weekend. cooldude:

We gassed up in Ashfield, but as I always make it a must stop, the Ashfield Lake House was probably not open that early.  Sad

Craig is a semi train freak, not a geek about it, but a interest and knowledge not held by most folk.  I told him I wanted to chase a train with him, so we were looking.

We cruised up 112 north to Buckland and got back on a local road called Charlemont Rd to Charlemont, go figure. Got on rte 2 west.  The Deerfield River is up, so there were a ton of water sports people getting ready to hit the water.

We got off 2 on Zoar Rd and that turned into River Rd.  My experience is, any road with the name "River" in it, is usually a great ride.  This one didn't disappoint.

We stopped at the East Entrance to the Hoosac Tunnel in Florida.

I took the only picture of the ride there, but then saw the exact same one on the Wikipedia website and being mostly lazy, I'm not going through all the steps to post it.

If you don't take the time to read the website, I've included the line that made me laugh out loud.

(sorry Jess & Oss)

The project was nicknamed "The Great Bore" by its critics, including future Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., who said he'd like to "wall up a dozen lawyers at one end of the tunnel and put a good fee at the other."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosac_Tunnel

Awesome story.

We headed north to Vermont and got on Rte 100, which has mostly been rebuilt within the last 10 years or so after Hurricane Irene hit, taking out just about every bridge and road in southern vermont.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Irene

We're hitting it, enjoying the weather, great clear roads and staying just a head of a Cafe Triumph, when I look down and see I got no clock, fuel gage, odometer.

ut oh.

About 2 miles later, the motor starts to stumble, then quits.

Luckly, I had a hill to stop at, cause I was sure I'd need to bump start, if I could start at all.

We pulled the seat and battery cover and discovered the ground was slightly loose.  Could it be that simple?  We hoped.  Tightened it down, turned the key and the electrics fired up.   Won't turn over, but she started on bump start.

Seemed good, for about 2 miles, then the electrics went out again, then the motor quit again.

It was Craigs idea, we put my drained battery in Craigs bike and his fully charged battery in mine, bump started his bike and bogeyed for home, about 100 miles or 2 hours. We also pulled the headlight fuse in my bike, to save as much battery as possible.

Rte 100 to Rte 8 to I-91 to I-90.  Got all the way to Palmer, about 5 miles from my house and the electrics quit.

We swapped batteries again, Craig bumped started again and he followed me to my road, then split off.

End of ride.

Moral of the story, check your alternator.

That bike has just under 70K.  99 Interstate, which I understand is prone to this, more than most.

My original 99 Tourer has 116K and it's original alt is running fine.

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2019, 05:15:28 AM »

Good to ride with a good friend  Happy ending is the best kind

It is not just 99's my 1st alt in my 01 went out under 20k

The replacement went out about a month or so ago,  I used my battery charger for  2 hrs pulled the fuse for headlight and made it home   Ebay used alt now in bike.   A friend is soldering new brushes on my old alt. which will go in saddle bag as a spare

Great line about the tunnel by the way !   Would love to get up your way if the roads are REALLY paved now,  at the end of the summer,
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2019, 05:32:41 AM »

Good report Bill.

Sorry for your troubles.  The idea of swapping batteries to get home is a good one, and something I can't remember ever hearing in an alternator story before. 

A friend in need, is a friend indeed!

I visited Old Sturbridge Village in my '67 A100 Dodge van in 1972 (or so).  A buddy of mine was part of the hippie crew doing summer stock there that summer.  Back when I had hair.   Grin
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2019, 05:48:50 AM »


Here's a tunnel picture  Wink



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Gary
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2019, 06:01:52 AM »

Great ride report, thanks for sharing. Definitely a good time to have a valk travel companion along.  cooldude

I'd say 95% of my travel is solo. I have 90k+ on my 97 and the 00 IS (now my sons) has a good 80k+ on it, both original alts. What would you say is the best way to check your alternator?
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2019, 06:12:42 AM »

Yeah we don’t need no stinking tow truck!!

I was amazed that my battery lasted most of the way home though.
Few years ago, a friends battery died on Mt. Washington, he coasted to the bottom, then we switched another wing battery and we were off. Switched them out a few times to get home, but we made it.

My battery didn’t charge fully on the way home, so I left it on the charger all night. All set this morning, heading out to the daughters for Q in a bit.

Always a good time Bill!

Craig
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2019, 06:18:15 AM »

Great ride report Bill  cooldude if you have to get a new alternator, don’t bother with the cheap internet ones. Get the Goldwing one.

Craig, best wishes on your upcoming new hip.  cooldude
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Hook#3287
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2019, 08:08:44 AM »

Great ride report Bill  cooldude if you have to get a new alternator, don’t bother with the cheap internet ones. Get the Goldwing one.

Craig, best wishes on your upcoming new hip.  cooldude
Yeah, took it apart, the brushes were pass the wear holes and the slip rings are at 26.4 mm with a service limit of 26 mm.    Honda don't sell those, so I'm thinking new alt.  I'll get the goldwing one, like you suggest.

I removed the center cover and the alt slipped out no problem.  Smiley Smiley  But, the bolt without the collar broke off.    Angry    Can't get a drill bit straight in there  tickedoff , so I gotta get a right angle drill or say frig it and just go with the two.  Roll Eyes I remember someone here did that w/o issue.

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What would you say is the best way to check your alternator?

Take it out and check the guts.  I think, like any alternator, it's working one minute, then it ain't.

Gonna get me one of those chargers to tote around case it happens again.

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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2019, 09:29:42 AM »

Yeah, there have been a few people that just used the 2 bolts. If you can’t get it out, I’ll think you’ll be fine.  cooldude
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2019, 11:11:36 AM »

Sounds like fun, I would have enjoyed it.....

I've been busy prepping my bike for the ride to Taos. I just replaced my alternator with 80K on the clock. Haven't had any problems, but don't want any far from home. I went with the HO rebuild from MARS.

I have pix to share, but I can't upload from here at work. Website is blocked. 
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2019, 04:21:33 PM »

Craig, best wishes on your upcoming new hip.  cooldude
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Thanks Rob, going in June 17. Looking forward to the Pow Wow next week, then it’s park it until the Dr. says I can ride again.  Cry

Hey Bob, hope you & Scott have a great And safe trip!

Craig
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Hook#3287
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2019, 01:41:16 AM »

Sounds like fun, I would have enjoyed it.....

I've been busy prepping my bike for the ride to Taos. I just replaced my alternator with 80K on the clock. Haven't had any problems, but don't want any far from home. I went with the HO rebuild from MARS.

I have pix to share, but I can't upload from here at work. Website is blocked. 

Hey Bob, you and Scott have a great trip cooldude

You'll have to do a "she digs me" tally. Let us know how many waitresses fall for Scott Grin

On the alternator story, I bought a new Goldwing one and sent the original to Ken Heming for a rebuild to keep as a spare.
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Savago
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2019, 08:32:09 AM »

@Hook: if you do the alternator job replacement yourself, be extra careful while removing the 3 mounting bolts. They have the tendency of getting stuck (rust?) and will crack in the block if you try to force them out.

Don't ask me how I learned this...
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2019, 08:37:37 AM »

@Hook: if you do the alternator job replacement yourself, be extra careful while removing the 3 mounting bolts. They have the tendency of getting stuck (rust?) and will crack in the block if you try to force them out.

Don't ask me how I learned this...

Where were you 3 days ago ?  Grin (evidently one broke) I don't remember how you got yours out, or if you just left it ?
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2019, 08:40:55 AM »

Sounds like fun, I would have enjoyed it.....

I've been busy prepping my bike for the ride to Taos. I just replaced my alternator with 80K on the clock. Haven't had any problems, but don't want any far from home. I went with the HO rebuild from MARS.

I have pix to share, but I can't upload from here at work. Website is blocked. 

Hey Bob, you and Scott have a great trip cooldude

You'll have to do a "she digs me" tally. Let us know how many waitresses fall for Scott Grin


Bob will have add on an app to his phone to keep track of them all.  Smiley

Bob, you guys ride safe and have a good time.  cooldude
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2019, 09:11:04 AM »

We rode from Gettysburg to Detroit MI doing battery swaps after Scar's alternator quit on him on the Blue Gray ride a few years back.
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2019, 11:02:46 AM »

Bill,

Nice report! Lots of adventure in there... and, like Oss said, a happy ending. Swapping batteries is something I've had to do on a few occasions, but it does work. Annoying and a bit bothersome, but way better than being stuck along the side of a road someplace in the boondocks! Glad it all worked out... Also, glad y'all are able to get some wind therapy now! See ya one of these days...

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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2019, 11:18:49 AM »

I've been riding for some years now with a Passport Escort radar detector.  You can set it to show volts when not warning of radar.  If wired correctly - basically it's own connection to the battery - it's pretty accurate.  I use it in all my cages too.  The volt readout has helped me many times, indicating right away I have a problem with the charge, before it surprises me later.  I won't ride without it now.  Normal output from a good alternator is 14.3v, on all cages and bikes.  I see my new Amazon alternator is not up to snuff right away.  Normally varies between 13.6 - 13.9.  I have a spare alternator with me on all bike road trips now.  Also carry a 6v charger & 50ft extension cord.
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2019, 12:22:14 PM »

@Hook: if you do the alternator job replacement yourself, be extra careful while removing the 3 mounting bolts. They have the tendency of getting stuck (rust?) and will crack in the block if you try to force them out.

Don't ask me how I learned this...

Where were you 3 days ago ?  Grin (evidently one broke) I don't remember how you got yours out, or if you just left it ?

Answering the question: I was riding the CA-36 (a.k.a. The Serpent to the Sea, 1811 curves in 140 miles) and next the CA-01 from Fortuna back to the SF Bay Area.

To quote the 'Dangerous roads' website: "Every road will seem very trivial after you ride this. "
https://www.dangerousroads.org/north-america/usa/4666-california-route-36.html
:-)

If you broke only 1, you are still fine (i.e. the alternator will stay put with just 2 bolts).

I broke 2 of them. I managed to drill one bolt using a dremmel (took forever) but I eventually came to my senses and gave up, brought the I/S to a goldwing motorcycle shop to have the mess sorted out.
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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2019, 12:34:31 PM »

CA 36 is pretty cool. Did you do Platina Road also ? I thought it was great.
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Savago
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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2019, 12:47:41 PM »

CA 36 is pretty cool. Did you do Platina Road also ? I thought it was great.

I did Platina last year.
 cooldude
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