JIS screwdriver update info

[98valk]

most phillips screwdrivers today work on JIS screws due to a new standard as stated below. I have some recently purchased harbor freights  https://www.harborfreight.com/2-x-4-inch-phillips-screwdriver-94707.html
and a few yrs old craftsman and they work great on JIS screws. The craftsman still had a point which I flattened which made it to work even better. The new standard already has the flat tip.

"The reason these companies have changed to DIN 5260/ISO 8764-1 is because the new standard is designed to work in both Phillips and JIS screws. For the most part that is true, it does work on both screw types, but like anything meant to work with multiple things, the middle ground means compromise. The JIS standard screwdriver will always outperform a DIN/ISO screw driver in the worst of conditions on a JIS screw, and the same is true in reverse."
http://rtstools.com/jis-vs-phillips-screwdrivers-and-where-to-buy-a-jis-screwdriver/

[Jess from VA]

Figures, I just today finally got around to adding a good JIS screwdriver to an Amazon order.  

Who else goes on Amazon for 2-3 best-buy things they need, then wanders around the house looking for small things that should have been fixed years ago, and running back to the puter and adding them to the order?  Ergo, the JIS, and a couple minimalist Sticky holsters.  

[Chrisj CMA]

My tactics are this: Use Philip screwdrivers that are in very good condition. Place in Japanese screw. Tap a few times with hammer.  BOOM magic. Japan screw changes to Philips screw from then on. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it

[98valk]

from the same web site.

"Most JIS advertised screwdrivers sold today by companies like Vessel, Hozan, and others are actually conforming to a new standard: DIN 5260 which is identical (at the tip) to the newer ISO 8764-1."

"To date, I have only been able to find one confirmed manufacturer that still uses and builds to JIS B 4633, and that is SUNFLAG otherwise known as New Turtle in Japan:

http://www.sunflag.co.jp/english/company/company.html"

[Gryphon Rider]

Which JIS screwdriver number are the most common screws, such as the brake reservoir cover screws? #1? #2? #3?
My guess is #2, but I wouldn't want to assume.

[mello dude]

Dunno about specs, but a few years back I bought a Hozan set + the stubby and just remind myself to always use them on the bikes.... .

https://www.amazon.com/Hozan-D-69-Stubby-Screwdriver-Japan/dp/B007I6HF5W/ref=pd_bxgy_469_img_2/131-8651496-4106231?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B007I6HF5W&pd_rd_r=97b6e340-83fc-4d53-a665-02a8f7ba77af&pd_rd_w=Zkgjp&pd_rd_wg=O3nAs&pf_rd_p=a2006322-0bc0-4db9-a08e-d168c18ce6f0&pf_rd_r=MXZDQJ050EN8JMDCWA3X&psc=1&refRID=MXZDQJ050EN8JMDCWA3X

https://www.amazon.com/Hozan-JIS-5-JIS-Screwdriver-Gen/dp/B003F63WI8/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=hozan+JIS+screwdriver+set&qid=1566325985&s=gateway&sr=8-3

They flat out work

Worth the money to have in the toolbox...

[Bagger John - #3785]

I got my 5pc Hozan set in the mail today.

The really long #2 standard driver works like a champ on the float bowl screws. 

Bought a #2 stubby as well.

[Fazer]

I have a set of JIS but rarely use them.  I saw somewhere that unless you see a small dimple on the screw head, they are not JIS and a regular Phillips will work.

[Bagger John - #3785]

I saw somewhere that unless you see a small dimple on the screw head, they are not JIS and a regular Phillips will work.

The stock float bowl screws all have the dimple...at least on the set of carbs I'm looking at.

[98valk]

I have a set of JIS but rarely use them.  I saw somewhere that unless you see a small dimple on the screw head, they are not JIS and a regular Phillips will work.

on the page
http://rtstools.com/jis-vs-phillips-screwdrivers-and-where-to-buy-a-jis-screwdriver/

[Gryphon Rider]

from the same web site.

"Most JIS advertised screwdrivers sold today by companies like Vessel, Hozan, and others are actually conforming to a new standard: DIN 5260 which is identical (at the tip) to the newer ISO 8764-1."

"To date, I have only been able to find one confirmed manufacturer that still uses and builds to JIS B 4633, and that is SUNFLAG otherwise known as New Turtle in Japan:

http://www.sunflag.co.jp/english/company/company.html"

Thanks for the tip.  I just ordered #2 150mm and stubby screwdrivers through Amazon.

[Paladin528]

a #2 Phillips fits the fairing screws better than the JIS screwdriver.  Just sayin'

[h13man]

I use my Vessal JIS screwdrivers on most all Phillips screws now. Just seem to grip better but I still have my Snap On's for backup.

[Bagger John - #3785]

a #2 Phillips fits the fairing screws better than the JIS screwdriver.  Just sayin'

The several Craftsman #2s I have in my chest fit those very well but won't engage the carb bowl screws with sufficient grip to avoid damaging them.

This is why I'm always looking for more toolsa bigger rollaway cabinet...