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t-man403
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« on: August 22, 2019, 10:28:01 AM »

It's just wrong!!!

I don't care if it's a pen from the office......it's not yours so don't take it  tickedoff!

Some low life's broke into my ARMED van last night and walked off with all my tools and whatever else.
Can't express how tired I am of this crap. Lived here for 25 years and my vehicles have been broke into no less than 5 times and my RV had the battery stolen last fall.

I'm not sure how to prevent this from happening as all had alarms of which not one ever activated  ??? and they are all were parked in well lit areas. Next step is to get cameras I suppose. 3 neighbors also got hit but it was in their garages.  Sitting here for 4 hours waiting for the  police why I don't know.
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2019, 10:43:01 AM »

Man, that sucks bad !

My SIL has a camera system that alerts her phone. Don’t know if it will stop them though.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2019, 11:12:02 AM »

Man, that sucks bad !

My SIL has a camera system that alerts her phone. Don’t know if it will stop them though.

It might not stop them, but might help identify them.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2019, 11:15:45 AM »

i'd like to bring back the old law of get caught stealing, loose a hand!  tickedoff 1 had ppl stealing scrap iron from me that was behind a gate. it was really annoying at 1st but then they took a $3000 pump! that's when my brother put up one of his game trail cameras. we had real nice pics of them the next few days. called the sheriff and they had them picked up and in jail in just a few hours.  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2019, 12:02:16 PM »

Inside job?

Since no alarm ever went off.
 
Some automotive alarm systems have a battery backup so even if they cut the wires to the battery, which is fairly common the alarm still goes off. A perimeter system that notifies you by the key fob if someone is even close to the vehicle is also a good idea. 

  Actually you could also wire up a house alarm rather than a car alarm to the thing and it could have motion sensors, glass breakage, and even cell coverage to call a central station if anything happened. A house alarm also has one heck of a siren and automatically has battery backup. Another advantage is a spot protector, which is a little sensor that sticks on to something like a box and if its moved the alarm goes off. The house alarm systems mostly run off of 12v and have a key fob so its not a stretch to put one into a van. Contact switches on the doors are also a plus and it would be wired independently of the vehicles electrical system so no matter what they do it would go off. You could have cameras and central station monitoring. Most house systems use wireless devices so there is no wires and its plug and play. Just a thought for some real security.

A decent house system would run around 500.00 and install is not hard so its a thought.

Sorry, loosing your stuff is never good especially when it concerns making a living with them.
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2019, 12:06:39 PM »

I like the idea of shooting them, then lining them up on the street for trash pickup, with thief signs on their heads.  

The state (or province) could even pay a nominal $50 a head bounty on them, just to show their support for the program.

This is terrible legal advice, but I like it anyway.

Sorry for your trouble.

In my experience, the best advice you're going to get is from professional security and lock and safe/tech companies.  

Adding extra insurance just makes insurance companies richer, and they find ways not to pay anyway.  Or they charge enough to buy new tools every two years anyway.  And I don't want my money back, I want to stop the theft.

I had a buddy (ex Navy ET tech) who wired in a CS grenade to explode on break in.  I don't know where he got a CS grenade.  He also had a sawed off double bbl shotgun (with no tax stamp).  He was a good old boy from Alabama (long gone, and I miss him).

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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2019, 12:13:27 PM »

now days you will have some folks who will feel sorry for the thief if the booby trap or punishment does them harm. In fact you could be charged in some places.
Sign of the times.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2019, 12:23:33 PM »

Believe me, you'd be charged with a crime (and convicted) for any form of booby trap on a house, shed, boat, or vehicle (resulting in injury or death), anywhere in the US or Canada.

After a year of trying to keep my little brother out of my room and stuff (with no success), I spent an entire day rigging up my BB gun to shoot him in the nuts (not the face), next time he did it.  After tying the gun to a chair, it took forever to get all the eye hooks in the door and wall, running the string, and getting it to shoot when the door was opened.  He did it the next day, and it worked perfectly.  That was one of most enthusiastic whippin's I ever got too.

This serves as a perfect example of going easy on criminals.  During that year, I could not keep him out, and my parents never punished him for trashing up my room.  When they saw the amount of time and effort I put in to my spring gun, they realized how important it was to me, so as dad was whacking on my backside, he told my brother this was exactly what would happen if he ever did it again.  My brother was convinced, and he never did it again.   

Spring guns have been against the law everywhere for 100 years.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2019, 12:32:40 PM »

Hate to hear you lost your tools to some idiot or idiots.
Would have been nice if the most expensive tool that
got stolen had been hooked up to high voltage somehow.
Because in my opinion once inside your vehicle where
no one should have been in the first place their ass is
paid for. I'm pro death penalty for stealing and a lot of
things other than murder. Like Texas put in an Express
Lane and weed out the sorry people and make more room
for the good. If these Jackasses knew they would quickly
be put to death for stupidity a lot of it would stop I believe.
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2019, 12:37:00 PM »

Oh man, losing tools like that is a real bummer. It takes years to build up just the right stuff and then they're gone in an instant. Even remembering everything you had is almost impossible.

I've started etching my name on my larger tools. Won't stop them getting stolen. but might cause the thief some inconvenience
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2019, 12:57:00 PM »

It sucks man, put some cameras, they're a great deterrent , also watch your local Craigslist and offer up  site they might list them there, pawn shops too, you can catch the offenders easy
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2019, 01:04:30 PM »

I haven't heard if the cops caught my 4runner thief.  But I came out better off than before with the dealer taking ownership of it, with it happening on their watch.  Including replacing the Milwaukee M18 "Fuel" brushless hammer drill (considerably better than DeWalt) and replacing the running boards when one side already had some dents.  They also didn't debit my bank the $440 charge they had levied for the shop work the truck was in there for in the first place.  They paid for the return tow and the rental car I had for 3 weeks.  And replaced the key fobs, mechanical door lock and key, and the body work needed from the miscreant banging it up going offroad. Not to mention a premium detail inside and out including the engine bay.  Looks brand new again.  The thief ran it for 196 miles, running the gas almost empty.  I think that's why they abandoned it.
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2019, 05:54:55 PM »

as said,  cameras are the way to go probably the cheapest thing.

around me there have been several young kids under age 16 or so stealing cars parked in driveways unlocked going for joy rides and then dumping them off wherever once done joy riding.  Who leaves there car unlocked in the driveway and/or keys in them outta know better.   uglystupid2

Doubt it will happen, but if I see someone say sneaking up on me pumping gas which I do 2xs or so weekly attempting to open the passenger door to rob me,  I might just light him up at the pump spraying gas on him/her. 

I went ATVing last weekend and some bunghole who pulled up next to me in their car walked by my ATV and my wife saw him nearby but I had my back turned.  He kept walking but was gone before I saw him set an empty beer can on my rear luggage rack of my ATV.  I set it back by his car tire.  He is lucky I did not see it or he would have been told to remove ASAP or else.    Some people have NO respect for other people's property look but do NOT touch without asking first is common sense.
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2019, 07:16:32 PM »

First, I don't know how this is done but, at one time I had an acquaintance that had a similar problem with thieves breaking into his shop.   He had had several thousand dollars worth of tools and electronic equipment stolen in the past.   

He set up an security system as many have described in the posts above but, he went one step further.  He got hold of some skunk piss and set it up to spray whomever entered unwelcomed.    Wasn't long after that, someone broke in again and it wasn't hard to catch or id who the thief was.

I wish I knew how he did it but I don't.

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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2019, 10:15:25 PM »

Gun free zones make for easy targets.  j/s.
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2019, 10:35:55 PM »

+1 on that f6gal

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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2019, 05:19:47 AM »

         These days we are currently living in seem to have less and less personal responsibility for some individuals. Maybe the courts should be less interested in the perps childhood than what the low life sumbitch is doing now. When THIEVES are caught 12 14 hours a day with a broom rake shovel doing something constructive. I also believe when peoples lively hood is stolen the owner of the tools should have some leeway to protect his/her investment. I along with a Lot of others here KNOW how expensive quality tools are. Someone mentioned removing a hand. Let em keep their hand BUT render the hand totally completely utterly useless. Use yer imagination here.  Evil Personally i fer one DO NOT CARE what the perps childhood was like. You try ripping me off at the best you WILL be in the E R. Fairly certain there is No One on the planet that can outrun even a .22 caliber round. Hoping and Praying for the return of Your Tools and the swift prosecution of the dumb asses that stole your paycheck. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2019, 06:25:46 AM »

Well I found one of those storage things that attaches to your sun-visor on the battery box of my trailer. Had a tire gauge, tiny flashlight along with insurance and registration papers in it. Was my neighbors 4 doors down. He too lost all his tools and his alarm didn't sound either. So somehow the crooks have something to disarm the system.



A friend of mine says he has a baby monitor in his work van with the receiver in the bedroom. Came in handy for him twice over the years.
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2019, 07:33:37 AM »

Sometimes there is instant karma.  Last week here in the Detroit area, the police caught 2 guys that broke into a gun shop by cutting a hole in the roof and dropping down into the store.  The problem was, that I think they planned to exit via the front door once they gathered their loot.  There were bars on the windows and doors, and the doors were securely locked and needed a key to unlock them.  The hole they entered through was out of their reach to use as an exit.  The cops showed up and watched them trying to break out.  AWESOME!
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2019, 07:42:33 AM »


So somehow the crooks have something to disarm the system.

Professional thieves come prepared to disrupt your wireless, cut your wires
and kill your dog. Its their job.

-Mike :-(
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2019, 09:13:10 AM »

Sometimes there is instant karma.  Last week here in the Detroit area, the police caught 2 guys that broke into a gun shop by cutting a hole in the roof and dropping down into the store.  The problem was, that I think they planned to exit via the front door once they gathered their loot.  There were bars on the windows and doors, and the doors were securely locked and needed a key to unlock them.  The hole they entered through was out of their reach to use as an exit.  The cops showed up and watched them trying to break out.  AWESOME!
          Supremely kewl!  2funny That's why you'll most likely Never see a reality show entitled-really smart criminals!  Roll Eyes RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2019, 09:41:29 AM »

I like the baby monitor idea  Those things are pretty sensitive as are the wireless doorbell and other cameras that alert your phone  You can set the app to make alarm noise when triggered YMMV

Trail cam also good,

Too bad you cant lock the truck inside a garage

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Had to put metal lathe in the walls and concrete them.  There is no money here the thieves messed everything up and left without finding my scotch  
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2019, 10:45:57 AM »

Cameras won't stop thieves but they sure can help in catching them. If a surveillance camera defects motion and notifies you, you would at least know something's going on.
There are many options and many various types and price ranges. As far as I'm concerned the "Ring" brand is the best on the consumer market. I have them around my house and install them for customers. I do not sell cameras of any kind.
But here's something you can take a look at. Wyze cameras are $25.00. They basically do everything an expensive camera will do... for $25.00! They do not currently have an outdoor camera but you can buy "outdoor" cases for them, also very inexpensive from Amazon. I have some of those also mounted outside underneath the overhangs so they're not in direct rain.
The cameras are mangaged from a phone app and send you alerts to the phone. You can look at them live from anywhere as well as view recordings.

They provide a level of security and give you a little peace of mind.

There's also another option that is very inexpensive. Trail cameras. Basically dirt cheap and easily mounted to a tree or someplace overlooking your areas of concern. They don't alert you in any way but you can pull the camera card, plug it into your computer and see all the pictures.

You should give some thought to looking into the options that are available theses days and you can probably hook up something that can help you out.
Here's a link to the Wyze cams so you can read about their products and see some videos.

https://www.wyze.com

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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2019, 05:03:31 PM »

Cameras won't stop thieves but they sure can help in catching them. If a surveillance camera defects motion and notifies you, you would at least know something's going on.
There are many options and many various types and price ranges. As far as I'm concerned the "Ring" brand is the best on the consumer market. I have them around my house and install them for customers. I do not sell cameras of any kind.
But here's something you can take a look at. Wyze cameras are $25.00. They basically do everything an expensive camera will do... for $25.00! They do not currently have an outdoor camera but you can buy "outdoor" cases for them, also very inexpensive from Amazon. I have some of those also mounted outside underneath the overhangs so they're not in direct rain.
The cameras are mangaged from a phone app and send you alerts to the phone. You can look at them live from anywhere as well as view recordings.

They provide a level of security and give you a little peace of mind.

There's also another option that is very inexpensive. Trail cameras. Basically dirt cheap and easily mounted to a tree or someplace overlooking your areas of concern. They don't alert you in any way but you can pull the camera card, plug it into your computer and see all the pictures.

You should give some thought to looking into the options that are available theses days and you can probably hook up something that can help you out.
Here's a link to the Wyze cams so you can read about their products and see some videos.

https://www.wyze.com


Those Wyze cameras look pretty good. Thanks for the link  cooldude
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2019, 06:57:45 AM »

would one of those wyze cameras work to be mounted on our Valks?

just put a large storage card inside and be prepared for seeing all kinds of idiots cutting you off and for accident purposes.
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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2019, 04:17:43 PM »

would one of those wyze cameras work to be mounted on our Valks?

just put a large storage card inside and be prepared for seeing all kinds of idiots cutting you off and for accident purposes.

No sir. It requires WiFi internet access to work at all.
And the video stored on the SD card can only be read through the camera from the phone app which is a PITA.

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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2019, 04:41:46 PM »

Here is one way to stop the creeps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vvuaDoSYd8

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