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I've listened to about 10 minutes. The blatant slant is laughable.
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2019, 04:01:19 PM » |
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If it wasn’t I would really be suspicious! Question is, will they start on each other before it’s over?
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2019, 04:14:40 PM » |
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If I wanted to watch video of people arguing over who hates America more, I'd just watch some videos from ISIS..... No thanks...
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Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2019, 03:55:50 AM » |
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I recorded the debate and watched a little over an hour of it in an effort to understand what hard core Democrats will have to chose from. They finally started chewing on each other a little bit even though Trump was still the main course. One surprise for me was Spartacus, who is really just an also ran, cautioned the other candidates to not be attacking one another. The other take away, Biden is toast.
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2019, 06:55:15 AM » |
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Every time they asked Biden a question he starts out rather mild then he gets worked up and by the time he's done he's yelling and stabbing his finger at whomever. I guess he thinks he's showing his passion but he comes off as angry. This is going to get him votes? He argued that him being so old provides WISDOM. Really? Not seeing it. Still bragging about HIS accomplishments actually pushed by his former boss. And still tripping over his fumbled words. "That's number one. Number two:..."
The anti-gun arguments are still front and center and they still spout the rhetoric but actually have no idea on how to implement them in the real world. Still assume taking guns from honest Americans will somehow put an end to violent crime and active shooters. Beto TRUSTS Americans to follow the law and submit their firearms to mandated "buy-backs" - actually compensated confiscation. Sans knowing who has what. Still calling the guns they talk about confiscating horrible "weapons of war". And refer to 2A as being about hunting. "'Weapons of War' have no place in the woods or in the public's hands." Yet I've never seen or heard of a deer trying to implement tyranny. "Those guns are for killing people." No ѕhit. That's the point. "70% of NRA members want universal background checks." REALLY? Where do you get your stats? Still characterizing the NRA as a homegrown evil terrorist organization for them all to fight. The wimmin claiming they will issue executive actions willy-nilly in clear violation of the Constitution. Now that they saw Obama set precedent.
Ol Bernie is selling his socialism a bit more softly but with the same backstory. If you tied down his right arm pretty sure he couldn't spout off. Finshes every rant with a flipping tongue. Don't get me started on the wimmen. Rich Little would have a blast mimicking these jokers.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2019, 07:13:54 AM » |
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Catch words and phrases
Biden : Look,
Warren : So,
Bernie : Let me perfectly clear,
I’m sure there are more but they are well rehearsed, except for Uncle Joe, he kinds of goes off the rails soon after Look.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2019, 07:44:57 AM » |
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What the gun community is concerned with, is background checks morphing into a defacto registry - the necessary precedent to confiscation - which has occurred historically in every govt gun roundup. As it is now, a natl registry is proscribed by law. But it's a small LIBERALS step to change that. Or even take the NICS applications now kept at FFL holders who sold the guns, to be confiscated by the govt and entered into a dB. As it is now, when a FFL goes out of business the govt gets those records. I have bought several, including at Gander Mountain (closed), at Dick's (no more business with them) and from small private sellers with FFLs. I have stopped buying guns.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2019, 07:47:57 AM » |
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by slamming the President Donald Trump they are only hurting themselves. I have not met one person who voted for Trump last election that is not going to vote for him again. Surely some of the democrats are getting tired of it too.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2019, 08:38:10 AM » |
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I seem to recall polls that said Hillary was going to be our POTUS. I don't give polls much credence. What we need is more Credence(CCR). |
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2019, 08:42:26 AM » |
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You might want to pick a more current poll there Rob. That story is 20 months old. With that said unless they poll all 5+ million members it's not a accurate poll. I was never polled nor was any NRA member I know. I personally have no problem with background checks. One is performed on me every time I purchase a new firearm. But I will never support a bill for background check if it includes ANY form of registration /confiscation or banning so called "assault weapons". Mark my words. The dirty dems will try to slip a registration or ban into a background check and when the GOP kills it they will say "see look,the Republicans don't care about background checks". I would say to the Democrats. IT'S THE CRMINALS STUPID.. |
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2019, 10:28:49 AM » |
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Or even take the NICS applications now kept at FFL holders who sold the guns, to be confiscated by the govt and entered into a dB. As it is now, when a FFL goes out of business the govt gets those records.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2019, 05:31:11 PM » |
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Apparently more folks watched cooking shows than the debate!!  |
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2019, 05:58:11 PM » |
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Apparently more folks watched cooking shows than the debate!! Because there is nothing to see or hear worth a poo. |
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2019, 06:17:49 PM » |
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I figured there would be a fair amount of discussion here as well as other sources, so I watched my usual TV shows.
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2019, 06:41:09 PM » |
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You guys moan about the Dem. debate's , did any of you watch the Rep. debates. Nothing but Trump calling everybody names, making fun of their looks or just plain slamming everyone on stage.
I think it is time for a new president, one who is on our side, and not Russia's. Seems a lot of Republicans are starting to call him out for his idiotic policies like opening the door for the Turks to slaughter the Kurds who helped us fight ISIS. Now they are back free to replenish and start fighting us again. Trump say's no trouble, they are 7000 miles away, let them go after the EU. He is a real friend to our allies,not. The whole world now see's us as undependable and not trustworthy.
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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2019, 07:01:17 PM » |
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I still think of the words between Rand Paul and Donald Trump
Rand Paul “he buys and sells politicians”
Donald Trump “ I gave you money”
Moderator “let’s change the subject”
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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2019, 07:28:35 PM » |
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I am surprised Serk that you think that is a joke, I don't find any humor in what he has been doing lately.
He throws our allies under the bus daily, and praises our adversaries, not funny. It's going to suck if we have to send troops back in to fight ISIS again because of his bad policies. I would much prefer to see Pence take over, at least he has morals.
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2019, 02:33:10 AM » |
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Elijah Cummings, the long-serving Democratic congressman and chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, has passed away at the age of 68
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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2019, 02:47:22 AM » |
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Elijah Cummings, the long-serving Democratic congressman and chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, has passed away at the age of 68
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2019, 02:58:57 AM » |
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My opinion on Joe Biden is he is to old, and as far as news networks, I watch all I can so I can wade through the crap. But maybe all you watch is Fox and Friends Trumps favorite for now network because they are the one's that stoke his ego. Even Fox has become more critical of him, and he is getting pi$$ed at them too.
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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2019, 05:42:55 AM » |
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My opinion on Joe Biden is he is to old, and as far as news networks, I watch all I can so I can wade through the crap. But maybe all you watch is Fox and Friends Trumps favorite for now network because they are the one's that stoke his ego. Even Fox has become more critical of him, and he is getting pi$$ed at them too.
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So you watch Fox News, interesting. If all media outlets were tough but fair we would all see a different Trump. The man calls a spade a spade and has made himself more available to the press than any other President than I can remember. He bristles when asked those “ do you still beat your wife” questions but so would any self respecting person. I used to love Meet the Press on Sunday mornings and they had some great moderators in the past, now NBC and Chuck Todd have turned it into another DNC outlet. Any fair and balanced minded person can see what’s going on and Fox is shining a light on the actions of their colleagues. We just need all journalists to return to their roots and dig all they want but report the truth and leave their personal politics out of it. |
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« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2019, 07:11:04 AM » |
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Trump has a thin skin in general, about anything, especially anything that is even close to "fake news material".
He's trying to run the Presidency like it was a sole propietary business, and it just isn't like that at all.
There are 3 seperate but equal branches of government, and he acts like he has forgotten that, and he gets all bent out of shape when someone (mostly by action) reminds him that it is not anything resembling what he runs a business as.
The democrats are not entirely blameless either. And neither is the press.
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Elijah Cummings, the long-serving Democratic congressman and chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, has passed away at the age of 68
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« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2019, 07:59:56 AM » |
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Just so you know Robert, I did not have any issue's with your report. I thought Cummings was a fair and respected man on both side's of the isle, and had friends on both the Left, and the Right. He lived in his district and worked hard for the rights of both white an black. Sorry to see he is gone.
As far as Trump lying, heck he does that every day, and all you have to do is open your eye's and clean your ears to see it. Nobody in any country trusts him because of his lies. And he can't be depended on to keep his promises. Well you supporters can bash away.
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« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2019, 08:09:37 AM » |
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Just so you know Robert, I did not have any issue's with your report. I thought Cummings was a fair and respected man on both side's of the isle, and had friends on both the Left, and the Right. He lived in his district and worked hard for the rights of both white an black. Sorry to see he is gone.
As far as Trump lying, heck he does that every day, and all you have to do is open your eye's and clean your ears to see it. Nobody in any country trusts him because of his lies. And he can't be depended on to keep his promises. Well you supporters can bash away.
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You can keep your plan and you can keep you Doctor. Lies told by our previous leader on his signature piece of legislation he took 2 years to pass with the help of a Republican who was so thin skinned he turned on his values because he too hated Trump. Seems the same leader drew a line in the sand and all he got was sand in the face which does wonders for our reputation in the international community. Obama was a doormat for the rest of the world. |
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Well we may have had health care if the republicans had helped out a little. They have been trying to get rid of the affordable care act for some 9 years now and have come up with nothing. Trump said he was going to replace it with something great and beautiful, and it would be easy, well what happened, nothing.
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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2019, 08:24:49 AM » |
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Well we may have had health care if the republicans had helped out a little. They have been trying to get rid of the affordable care act for some 9 years now and have come up with nothing. Trump said he was going to replace it with something great and beautiful, and it would be easy, well what happened, nothing.
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It’s Congress to be blamed for that, they have to have something to present to be signed by the President. Who knows what could have been accomplished if not for the millions spent on trying to frame Trump for the Democrats collusion with the Russians. |
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Well we may have had health care if the republicans had helped out a little. They have been trying to get rid of the affordable care act for some 9 years now and have come up with nothing. Trump said he was going to replace it with something great and beautiful, and it would be easy, well what happened, nothing.
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The democrat candidates are ensuring the re-election of our President.
One thing I've observed over the past couple years is the number of hard core democrats that I've known that have changed their party to republican or independent. I see that their front yards now have republican signs. I see that as a change for the better, better late than never. This is in a liberal democrat controlled state.
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If you don't have anything nice to say... (you know the rest, I'll leave it at that). I didn't kill him, I didn't make any comment I only reported, so is there an issue? No Issue. I don't have anything nice to say about the man, so I stopped there. What is to be gained by belittling a dead man? |
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Just so you know Robert, I did not have any issue's with your report. I thought Cummings was a fair and respected man on both side's of the isle, and had friends on both the Left, and the Right. He lived in his district and worked hard for the rights of both white an black. Sorry to see he is gone.
As far as Trump lying, heck he does that every day, and all you have to do is open your eye's and clean your ears to see it. Nobody in any country trusts him because of his lies. And he can't be depended on to keep his promises. Well you supporters can bash away.
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You can keep your plan and you can keep you Doctor. Lies told by our previous leader on his signature piece of legislation he took 2 years to pass with the help of a Republican who was so thin skinned he turned on his values because he too hated Trump. Seems the same leader drew a line in the sand and all he got was sand in the face which does wonders for our reputation in the international community. Obama was a doormat for the rest of the world. It was Obama's failed foreign ploicies that got us where we are today. cursed if do, cursed if we don't. Obama also caused the European refugee crisis which lead to Brexit and strife within European communities. And every time a Dem candidate is asked what they would do, on any issue, their response is always the same........ "Well, I wouldn't do what Trump is doing." Then ramble on about how bad Trump is and never actually answering the question. THAT'S why impeachment is so important. It's the only way to shut him down. All I heard was Taxes, Taxes, Taxes and free, free, free. Do Bernie and Elizabeth really think we believe them when they say only the rich will pay? The rich have lawyers and accountants and thousands of pages of tax codes on their side. Guess who now has to pay for all that free stuff,..... You and me. That's what they are running on. And they have half the voters brainwashed that these ideas are good. They, and the media, have done an incredible job. I mean, I know highly educated and successful people that cry "emoluments clause" as if on cue like a dog that drools when he hears a bell. |
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Well we may have had health care if the republicans had helped out a little. They have been trying to get rid of the affordable care act for some 9 years now and have come up with nothing. Trump said he was going to replace it with something great and beautiful, and it would be easy, well what happened, nothing.
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I call B/S. The Republicans were NOT asked for input on the ACA AT ALL. It was written by that guy who said they were banking on the stupidity of the American voter and by Rom Emanuel's brother who declared that to be a good citizen, you shouldn't want to live past 75. I guess you get your health insurance through work. If you had to purchase your own, I'm sure you didn't save $2,500 like Obama said we ALL would, but instead you saw a 200% increase in premiums and a 400% increase in your deductible and zero choice. But, we're gonna give all illegal immigrants FREE healthcare as EVERY Dem candidate declared by raising their hands high. |
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Well we may have had health care if the republicans had helped out a little. They have been trying to get rid of the affordable care act for some 9 years now and have come up with nothing. Trump said he was going to replace it with something great and beautiful, and it would be easy, well what happened, nothing.
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