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Socialist Leeches Rule I Guess
When the Leeches Outnumber the Contributors, this is the result:
And that result is...Socialist China Loving Trudeau is re-installed BUT in a minority position and with the help of the Marxist Leaning NDP they will continue to hold the balance of power.
They will be holding that Socialist/Marxist/Environmental Albatross around Alberta and Saskatchewan's neck for the next four years....Pipelines...what pipelines?
It is time for Alberta and Saskatchewan to begin the move towards collecting ALL Federal and Provincial Taxes within their borders...just like Quebec has been doing all along.
They MUST also remove ALL Provincial Funding for VERY EXPENSIVE Federal Policing by the RCMP and install Provincial Police Forces.
Both Provinces must also remove all federal ability to collect Pension "Taxes" and set up Provincially Operated Retirement Security Benefits and stop the Federal Theft of our pension contributions...again just like Quebec. Both provinces have very young populations compared to the National Average, so why should we be tapped to cover the rest of Canada.
This is the Real Meaning of "Separation of Powers" that Alberta and Saskatchewan MUST INSIST UPON FOR US TO REMAIN part of this Sorry Crumbling Confederation.
If there is no wholesale change in how Ottawa and the rest of the Provinces View Alberta, it is then time to take the next step. Alberta and Saskatchewan cannot function the way they are being treated as pariahs within this screwed up excuse for Confederation. I am absolutely including British Columbia in my deep reaching disgust and disappointment as they have been blocking pipelines and the movement of Alberta oil for some time now.
Left Wingers in Canada seem bent on saving the world somehow while China and India with a total population of almost 3 Billion people keep spewing out the pollution at probably 100 times the rate of Canada.
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2019, 04:50:14 PM » |
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A while back I commented on how some here of the Democrat persuasion on the USA side of the border are unhappy about how the framers of your Constitution included the Electoral College. You now have a ringside seat as to why it was so important...take heed Left Leaning Members... this is directed mostly at people like you who, I am assuming, really don't understand why the Electoral College is there. If the abolition of the Electoral College was forced through by the Democrats IF AND WHEN they ever get hold of the reigns of power at all three levels of your Federal Government, those of you who live between the massive populations of New York and California will no longer have a say as to how your country is run....BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR Democrats...you might just get it.
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2019, 05:08:15 PM » |
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I'm all for Alberta and Saskatchewan achieving all necessary independence from the socialist leeches.
By any means necessary.
We call it States Rights.
When in the course of human events....
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2019, 05:13:27 PM » |
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I won't speak in reference to the Canadian election, not my country. But, this I will say, when the Left gets full control (and eventually, that will happen) they will bleed the our nation dry to the point where the leeches out number the contributors and all hell will break loose. At that point, I expect at least one of two things, a civil conflict and most likely the break up of the US. The east and west coasts out number the flyover states in population. But, they will have a problem feeding themselves and will run short on energy. The majority of resources are located in the flyover states, refining capacity is located most in the flyover states, most crop production is located in the flyover states, most meat production is the same. Cut the rail service and highways that pass through those flyover states, cut the power and gas pipe lines off and watch what happens. The West Coast will do better than the East but, I fully expect hunger and weather (due to energy shortfalls) to bring them to their knees. I can see this nation breaking down into three different countries.
I don't think they understand how important those flyover states are to their own survival.
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2019, 05:40:17 PM » |
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The rest of Canada does not even buy their oil from Alberta...Quebec gets their's from the Saudis. That is how we get treated here and it won't fly much longer. There is plenty of discussion here about secession.
Alberta has offered to send oil East...Quebec would have none of it!!
Yep it is time to get the secession process in motion if things don't change real soon.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2019, 05:40:57 PM » |
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Uh Ron the leeches already out number the contributors.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2019, 07:41:37 PM » |
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Uh Ron the leeches already out number the contributors.
I guess that depends on how one defines leeches. https://brandongaille.com/welfare-statistics-by-race-state-and-payment/Rams |
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2019, 03:42:18 AM » |
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Those stats surprised me. |
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2019, 04:49:51 AM » |
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They are 2 years old, (buy date on post). I would love to see some updated stats.
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2019, 06:05:15 AM » |
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They are 2 years old, (buy date on post). I would love to see some updated stats.
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While I’m all in for complete separation from this country...I fear that with a minority government in place that certainly won’t last the 4 year term...all that will happen in the next year or 2 if there is another vote is the people who want separation will simply split the vote on the right...therefore handing another election to the Liberals. The way the AB and SK premiers are handling it now is a start, saying we need to renegotiate our deal with Canada....no more sucking tens of billions out of our economies and handing it to Quebec. And let us get our energy products to market. If they won’t allow it...a good start might be sending every person from the Liberal voting Atlantic provinces living and working in AB and SK back home. A couple generations of Maritimers heading home and being unemployed might serve as a wake up call as to what it’s like here now. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2019, 03:42:48 PM » |
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We down here in the states once tried separating and ended up fighting a war over it. Things got nasty. I won't go into the why of it.
About 20 yrs or so ago a separation was tried ,or at least seriously discussed, here in NYS about splitting downstate from upstate. I won't go into the why of that either.
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2019, 11:21:48 AM » |
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7th_Son,
Separating wouldn't do you any good. Alberta and Saskatchewan would last about a decade and then go into financial ruin. You would still only be able to sell your oil to the US as you do now because you would be land locked. People delude themselves into thinking that the grass is greener on the other side. Quebec does the same dreaming.
If the Cons would have elected someone who was appealing to the rest of Canada, then they would have won a majority. Scheer has about as much appeal and charisma as Elizabeth May. Bernier wasn't any better with his racist thinking. As soon as Scheer made the comment about not supporting gays, he was done for. A PM needs Ontario to gain a majority and Ontario is a lot more inclusive than most of the other Provinces. That is why D!pSh!it Trudeau won Ontario.
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2019, 12:52:10 PM » |
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7th_Son,
Separating wouldn't do you any good. Alberta and Saskatchewan would last about a decade and then go into financial ruin. You would still only be able to sell your oil to the US as you do now because you would be land locked. People delude themselves into thinking that the grass is greener on the other side. Quebec does the same dreaming.
If the Cons would have elected someone who was appealing to the rest of Canada, then they would have won a majority. Scheer has about as much appeal and charisma as Elizabeth May. Bernier wasn't any better with his racist thinking. As soon as Scheer made the comment about not supporting gays, he was done for. A PM needs Ontario to gain a majority and Ontario is a lot more inclusive than most of the other Provinces. That is why D!pSh!it Trudeau won Ontario.
And that's why we need to separate. Ontario voters would rather have a PM with low intellect, low integrity, but high charisma, than one who is competent and of high character but with less charisma. "Alberta and Saskatchewan would last about a decade and then go into financial ruin." - What a load of pure bovine excrement. You exhibit the typical Ontario conceit: "We know best and you won't be able to get by without us." |
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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2019, 02:51:32 PM » |
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7th_Son,
Separating wouldn't do you any good. Alberta and Saskatchewan would last about a decade and then go into financial ruin. You would still only be able to sell your oil to the US as you do now because you would be land locked. People delude themselves into thinking that the grass is greener on the other side. Quebec does the same dreaming.
If the Cons would have elected someone who was appealing to the rest of Canada, then they would have won a majority. Scheer has about as much appeal and charisma as Elizabeth May. Bernier wasn't any better with his racist thinking. As soon as Scheer made the comment about not supporting gays, he was done for. A PM needs Ontario to gain a majority and Ontario is a lot more inclusive than most of the other Provinces. That is why D!pSh!it Trudeau won Ontario.
The Complete Lack of Vision and Business Acumen is a "Rest of Canada" problem that the West has dutifully dealt with for several decades. Alberta oil added about 50 billion to the Canadian Economy Annually. Federally Mandated Wealth Transfer Taxes to the ROC is about 20 billion dollars Annually...even now with Trudeau 2.0 actively undermining and destroying the further development of our resources...and especially now that we no longer have Wealth Transfer Money to spare...Ottawa still continues to take more than their share of our money. With our population of 4.5 Million...do the math. Trudeau 1.0, decades back, stole about 100 billion from Alberta through Unconstitutional Taxation and Lost Business Opportunities between 1980 to 1985 with the National Energy Program that Alberta will never forgive him for. The Energy Industry refused to invest any further in Alberta while that was going on. SO BESCRIVE...HOW ABOUT YOU START DOING THE MATH. If we'd had the balls back in the Eighty's to walk away, Alberta would be one of the wealthiest economies globally and the ROC Socialist Rat Bastards would be Tits Up without that Filthy Alberta Lucre that you got so used to spending , like it was rightfully yours. |
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2019, 05:38:29 PM » |
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Again, to my American Friends, hold on to your Electoral College...like I said, you have a ringside seat to witness what happens if you were to lose it. Sorry to burden you folks with this, but it will take a while for me to cool down, especially with brain dead comments coming from Eastern Canada.
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2019, 03:54:13 AM » |
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The electoral college was created for a reason. The problem is that reason doesn't seem to have a place today in our politics.
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2019, 06:49:09 AM » |
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The electoral college was created for a reason. The problem is that reason doesn't seem to have a place today in our politics.
It actually does more today that in the 18th century. In fact, the density of population in a small number states should increase the per state additions to the College. |
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2019, 07:15:55 AM » |
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Considering the minimum number of EC votes a state gets is 3, with the max determined by population, it almost seems the smaller states get more votes proportionally
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2019, 08:01:04 AM » |
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7th_Son,
Separating wouldn't do you any good. Alberta and Saskatchewan would last about a decade and then go into financial ruin. You would still only be able to sell your oil to the US as you do now because you would be land locked. People delude themselves into thinking that the grass is greener on the other side. Quebec does the same dreaming.
If the Cons would have elected someone who was appealing to the rest of Canada, then they would have won a majority. Scheer has about as much appeal and charisma as Elizabeth May. Bernier wasn't any better with his racist thinking. As soon as Scheer made the comment about not supporting gays, he was done for. A PM needs Ontario to gain a majority and Ontario is a lot more inclusive than most of the other Provinces. That is why D!pSh!it Trudeau won Ontario.
The Complete Lack of Vision and Business Acumen is a "Rest of Canada" problem that the West has dutifully dealt with for several decades. Alberta oil added about 50 billion to the Canadian Economy Annually. Federally Mandated Wealth Transfer Taxes to the ROC is about 20 billion dollars Annually...even now with Trudeau 2.0 actively undermining and destroying the further development of our resources...and especially now that we no longer have Wealth Transfer Money to spare...Ottawa still continues to take more than their share of our money. With our population of 4.5 Million...do the math. Trudeau 1.0, decades back, stole about 100 billion from Alberta through Unconstitutional Taxation and Lost Business Opportunities between 1980 to 1985 with the National Energy Program that Alberta will never forgive him for. The Energy Industry refused to invest any further in Alberta while that was going on. SO BESCRIVE...HOW ABOUT YOU START DOING THE MATH. If we'd had the balls back in the Eighty's to walk away, Alberta would be one of the wealthiest economies globally and the ROC Socialist Rat Bastards would be Tits Up without that Filthy Alberta Lucre that you got so used to spending , like it was rightfully yours. That's like me saying that if I had bought a LottoMax ticket last week I might be a millionaire now. Booohoooo, you are so oppressed. You guys sound like Quebec. Like I said, if the Cons had got someone that was electable in Ontario and Quebec, they would be in power now. Blame them. |
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Come on Canadians, ya'll should politely discuss your political differences, like we do here in The States! Sorry, Serk....  |
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Like I said, if the Cons had got someone that was electable in Ontario and Quebec, they would be in power now. Blame them.
Well, if a hypocritical, brown-painted, polished Trud is what is electable in Ontario today, I don't think we want to provide a blue-tinged version of that. The problem is the mindset of Ontarians and what appeals to them. Quebec will never in the foreseeable future support a Conservative leader from outside Quebec, so there's no point in trying to appeal to them with a non-Quebecer. |
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Like I said, if the Cons had got someone that was electable in Ontario and Quebec, they would be in power now. Blame them.
Well, if a hypocritical, brown-painted, polished Trud is what is electable in Ontario today, I don't think we want to provide a blue-tinged version of that. The problem is the mindset of Ontarians and what appeals to them. Quebec will never in the foreseeable future support a Conservative leader from outside Quebec, so there's no point in trying to appeal to them with a non-Quebecer. Look at what there was to offer. Green Party...ya riiiight Libs....the devil that you know with Mr Blackface NDP...no way, we did that in the 90's with a provincial gov't and that put Ontario in the 'have not' position Peoples Party...sounds like a communist party run by a racist Cons....the devil that you don't know who is an ultra religious guy that don't like gays By the way, I voted Con. Our MP, Pierre Poilievre is a sycophant, but he gets stuff done. |
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The electoral college was created for a reason. The problem is that reason doesn't seem to have a place today in our politics.
I guess this can be confusing. What I meant was that reason/ intelligent thought doesn't seem to have a place today in our politics. I think it can be also taken as THAT reason for the origin of the electoral college doesn't have a place today. Still clear as mud, eh. |
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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2019, 01:14:48 PM » |
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The electoral college was created for a reason. The problem is that reason doesn't seem to have a place today in our politics.
... Still clear as mud, eh. Yes. The purpose (originally) was a compromise to influence the lesser populated states (southern agricultural?) to join the effort to form a federation. The electoral college (and the number of senators per state) was to avoid the more populated states domination of the election and law making processes. It didn't give the lesser populated equal representation but it did bite into the popular vote imbalance. Today the ratio of states more highly populated to those with fewer populations is more out of balance than it was a couple of centuries ago. The Senate does what it was intended to do. The electoral college, in my opinion, does less than it was intended to do. |
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Like I said, if the Cons had got someone that was electable in Ontario and Quebec, they would be in power now. Blame them.
Well, if a hypocritical, brown-painted, polished Trud is what is electable in Ontario today, I don't think we want to provide a blue-tinged version of that. The problem is the mindset of Ontarians and what appeals to them. Quebec will never in the foreseeable future support a Conservative leader from outside Quebec, so there's no point in trying to appeal to them with a non-Quebecer. @Gryphon Rider...There is no real purpose in trying to make Western Common Sense to anyone from Ontario>>>East. Coastal BC and Eastern Canada are Socialist Eco Turds now, and act like they are entitled to steal that Oil Soaked Filthy Lucre from Alberta/Saskatchewan....Blocking All Pipelines but still expecting the Equalization Lucre because they can no longer stand on their own. Ontario is the most indebted(per capita) place in North America now surpassing California. Bescrive refused to "do the math" because he already knows the answer...with neighbors like these who needs Russian Enemies. He "Talks" conservative but he ain't walking it...in America they call them RINO'S. I gave it one try, but will No Longer Reply to him. The Best Way to Starve TROLLS is to Quit Feeding them. |
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7th_son, Make sure that you keep sending those payments to Ottawa. I retire soon from cushy high paying job with the federal gov't and I need it to cover my pension. It's a big pension, so I will need lots of money.  Freedom 55 baby!!! |
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7th_son, Make sure that you keep sending those payments to Ottawa. I retire soon from cushy high paying job with the federal gov't and I need it to cover my pension. It's a big pension, so I will need lots of money. Freedom 55 baby!!! And then you can spend the winters in Florida. |
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