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Freebird93
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« on: December 18, 2019, 03:47:31 PM » |
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Help I pulled the rear wheel to do a tire swap and put it all back according to the shop talk post. Now the rear wheel won't spin in neutral? Any advice is appreciated.
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3W-lonerider
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2019, 03:52:24 PM » |
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do you have the shocks hooked up or is the swing arm hanging down, if the swing arm is hanging down the tire won't turn because of the bind in the ujoint.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2019, 05:14:40 PM » |
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Did you forget the internal wheel spacer?
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2019, 06:00:30 PM » |
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Did you forget the internal wheel spacer?
This is my bet also. |
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2019, 06:56:27 PM » |
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Did you forget the internal wheel spacer?
This is my bet also. Didn't this just happen to someone else a couple weeks ago? It's like deja vu all over again. |
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indybobm
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2019, 05:46:26 AM » |
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I answered this on FB but I will put it here also.
If the shocks are not on and the swingarm is down as far as it can go, the ujoint could be in a bind. Do not use force to turn the wheel, it could damage the ujoint. Install the shocks or raise the swingarm and see if that helps.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2019, 07:40:09 AM » |
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Did you put the plastic thrush washer back in ?
Thrust (not thrush) washer and how in the world could the absence of this cause the wheel to lock up? I think Lonerider has it. Many have been there before |
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0leman
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2019, 08:12:20 AM » |
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I agree on the shocks on being on. I did that on my first tire change. Lead to replacing U-Joint.
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2019, 12:50:38 PM » |
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Did you put the plastic thrush washer back in ?
Thrust (not thrush) washer and how in the world could the absence of this cause the wheel to lock up? I think Lonerider has it. Many have been there before Thanks  I've not done it so I don't know, but I would think it would put a bind on the wheel after torquing it down. (I guess I was subconsciously thinking of the mufflers I put on my Caprice 45 years ago) |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2019, 01:29:47 PM » |
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Did you put the plastic thrush washer back in ?
Thrust (not thrush) washer and how in the world could the absence of this cause the wheel to lock up? I think Lonerider has it. Many have been there before Thanks I've not done it so I don't know, but I would think it would put a bind on the wheel after torquing it down. (I guess I was subconsciously thinking of the mufflers I put on my Caprice 45 years ago) No that nylon washer is not a sort of lubricant between moving parts. The flange and the hub of the wheel move together. The washer just puts the teeth of the splines in the right place like a shim and also protects the shoulder of the hub from wear. The wheel will turn just fine without that thrust washer even though parts would wear out prematurely. |
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Forge
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2019, 04:38:46 AM » |
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This happened to me a couple of months ago. I forgot the wheel spacer when I was swapping out pumpkins. I was certain that I had installed it after cleaning it up real good, but was distracted when I answered my phone. It literally ate my lunch as I pulled the wheel and pumpkin at least 5 or 6 times trying different adjustments, o-rings, and “tricks.” After someone posted here asking if I left out the spacer and I said I had installed it, I got fed up and started cleaning up my mess to walk away from it and spotted the spacer. I felt like a dumbass. I pulled the pumpkin, installed the spacer, and all was great.
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Cracker Jack
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2019, 08:51:53 AM » |
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Did you put the plastic thrush washer back in ?
Thrust (not thrush) washer and how in the world could the absence of this cause the wheel to lock up? I think Lonerider has it. Many have been there before Thanks I've not done it so I don't know, but I would think it would put a bind on the wheel after torquing it down. (I guess I was subconsciously thinking of the mufflers I put on my Caprice 45 years ago) No that nylon washer is not a sort of lubricant between moving parts. The flange and the hub of the wheel move together. The washer just puts the teeth of the splines in the right place like a shim and also protects the shoulder of the hub from wear. The wheel will turn just fine without that thrust washer even though parts would wear out prematurely. "The flange and the hub of the wheel move together." There is movement of the hub of the wheel relative to the flange as allowed by the dampers. Without that movement, no cushioning would be provided. The greater the wear of the dampers, the more movement you have and the more slack you have in the drive train. This back and forth movement is occurring almost constantly while the bike is moving. The purpose of the spacer is to keep the cast iron flange from rubbing on the face of the aluminum wheel hub and the accelerated wear caused from that. There have been many pictures posted on this board showing wheels ruined from wear because of failure to install the spacer. The sad part is that there is no symptom to indicate the spacer is missing until the next teardown. |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2019, 04:26:25 PM » |
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There is movement of the hub of the wheel relative to the flange Yes but what I meant by move together was that metal to metal between the flange and hub could in no way account for the wheels’ failure to rotate. |
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