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Author Topic: Well here is a story too good to pass up. Safe school czar promotes fisting?  (Read 6712 times)
Jeff K
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« on: December 07, 2009, 09:11:11 AM »

Sorry... I tried to resist but I just couldn't pass this up.  Shocked


http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/07/fistgate-barack-obamas-safe-schools-czars-2000-conference-promoted-fisting-to-14-year-olds/#idc-ctools
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2009, 10:26:45 AM »

hmmm... maybe training them to be congressional pages for Republicans like Mark Foley and Larry "Wide-Stance" Craig?
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2009, 10:52:52 AM »

hmmm... maybe training them to be congressional pages for Republicans like Mark Foley and Larry "Wide-Stance" Craig?

Or maybe they are just teaching our kids how to "loosen up" a bit for the policies that are going to be rammed up their backsides by this administration?  ???
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2009, 10:53:28 AM »

......as opposed to cigar training for Democratic office holders....?
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2009, 10:54:19 AM »

Would be interesting to see the Administrations respopnse to these vile instructions.  Ill bet Obama doesnt do anything and this swept under the carpet.  Just one more example of the hidden agendas this corrupt "new" government is perpetrating on the country silently but aggressively.
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2009, 11:23:01 AM »

hmmm... maybe training them to be congressional pages for Republicans like Mark Foley and Larry "Wide-Stance" Craig?

Or maybe they are just teaching our kids how to "loosen up" a bit for the policies that are going to be rammed up their backsides by this administration?  ???

Hey, if they "loosen up" (is that what you guys call that?) enough to fit their heads up there they can become Republicans!!!
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2009, 11:28:28 AM »

I'm anxious to see how Puff D spins this one!   Lips Sealed
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2009, 11:30:24 AM »

hmmm... maybe training them to be congressional pages for Republicans like Mark Foley and Larry "Wide-Stance" Craig?

Or maybe they are just teaching our kids how to "loosen up" a bit for the policies that are going to be rammed up their backsides by this administration?  ???

Hey, if they "loosen up" (is that what you guys call that?) enough to fit their heads up there they can become Republicans!!!

I'm pretty sure that position is generally reserved for Democrats from the Pacific northwest.

It's easier for them, though, because they normally have small heads and very easily accessed anal orifices.

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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2009, 11:34:08 AM »

I'm not doubting it but noticed most of the links on that site are broken.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2009, 11:43:38 AM »

hmmm... maybe training them to be congressional pages for Republicans like Mark Foley and Larry "Wide-Stance" Craig?

Or maybe they are just teaching our kids how to "loosen up" a bit for the policies that are going to be rammed up their backsides by this administration?  ???

Hey, if they "loosen up" (is that what you guys call that?) enough to fit their heads up there they can become Republicans!!!

I'm pretty sure that position is generally reserved for Democrats from the Pacific northwest.

It's easier for them, though, because they normally have small heads and very easily accessed anal orifices.

 Grin

Wouldn't know Willow, I'll leave that to you experts on both.   Wink:
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2009, 11:47:58 AM »

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hmmm... maybe training them to be congressional pages for Republicans like Mark Foley and Larry "Wide-Stance" Craig?

Typical cowardly response. Instead of trying in any way to stop this scumbag's "agenda",
just say "Oh, yeah, well what about what so-and-so did?" Can't change the past, why not
help with the present and future? Unless you want your kids/grandkids to be shown
 a film about fisting? Maybe they could teach it in biology?
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2009, 12:03:29 PM »

It doesn't make much difference to repudiate these "reports".  The smear merchants will just question the source. But here's one for you.

Gateway Pundit's false, rehashed Jennings smears

December 06, 2009 4:29 pm ET by Matt Gertz

Gateway Pundit's Jim Hoft has published blog posts this weekend targeting Department of Education official Kevin Jennings under the hair-on-fire headlines, "Breaking: Obama's Safe Schools Czar's Question to 14 Year Olds: 'Spit vs. Swallow?... Is it Rude?' (audio-video)" and "Fistgate: Barack Obama's Safe Schools Czar Promoted "Fisting" to 14 Year-Olds (audio-video)." Two problems: The audio isn't of Jennings, and these stories aren't even remotely new.

Back in 2000, Jennings' organization, the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), held a conference at Tufts University. The conference featured numerous workshops for students and educators, including "How to decide whether to come out at work," and "Strategies and curriculum ideas for addressing gay, lesbian, bisexual and trans-gender issues in a high school English curriculum." One of the workshops, titled "What They Didn't Tell You About Queer Sex and Sexuality in Health Class: Workshop for Youth Only, Ages 14-21," was run by two Massachusetts state Department of Education staffers and a state DoE consultant.

Basically, during the workshop, students asked a lot of very explicit questions about sex, and received explicit answers. As Hoft himself acknowledges in the body of his posts, it is the Department of Education staffers - not Jennings himself - who appear in the audio giving those answers. An activist for the anti-gay group Parents Rights Coalition (now MassResistance) snuck into the workshop and taped it, in a possible violation of state laws banning the taping of people without their permission (stop me if you've heard this one before).

Jennings subsequently criticized the workshop to the Boston Herald:

    "Like the Parents Rights Coalition and the Department of Education, GLSEN is also troubled by some of the content that came up during this workshop," said Kevin Jennings, national executive director of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network.

    He said people who run workshops in the future will get clearer guidelines, though Jennings said the network's annual conference at Tufts University should not be judged on the 30-student seminar "What They Didn't Tell You About Queer Sex and Sexuality in Health Class."

    "We need to make our expectations and guidelines to outside facilitators much more clear," said Jennings. "Because we are surprised and troubled by some of the accounts we've heard." [Boston Herald, 5/18/2000]

And to the Boston Globe:

    Meanwhile, officials at the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, said they would also be looking further into the March workshops, because they would also be opposed to graphic sex talk that would be inappropriate for young adults.

    "From what I've heard, I have concerns as well," said executive director Kevin Jennings. "GLSEN believes that children do have a right to accurate, safer sex education, but this needs to be delivered in an age appropriate and sensitive manner."

    But, he was also critical of the coalition's agenda.

    "What troubles me is the people who have the tape know what our mission is, they know that our work is about preventing harassment and they know that session was not the totality of what was offered at a conference with over 50 sessions," he said. "Our mission is being misrepresented." [Boston Globe, 5/18/2000]

You'll notice that that's two separate articles quoting Jennings responding to the workshop. That's because contrary to Hoft's claim that this story is "Breaking," it was a big deal when it happened more than nine years ago.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/200912060012.
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2009, 12:16:19 PM »

It doesn't make much difference to repudiate these "reports".  The smear merchants will just question the source.

You are correct, using Media Matters hate site as a source of "facts" isn't going to fly.  2funny
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2009, 12:21:28 PM »

This thread oughta be good!

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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2009, 12:24:27 PM »

It doesn't make much difference to repudiate these "reports".  The smear merchants will just question the source.

You are correct, using Media Matters hate site as a source of "facts" isn't going to fly.  2funny

LMAO....Media Matters is a hate site?  Yeah, I guess any source who doesn't let the whackos get away with their lies unchallenged is certainly hated by those who lie....
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2009, 01:04:25 PM »

It doesn't make much difference to repudiate these "reports".  The smear merchants will just question the source.

You are correct, using Media Matters hate site as a source of "facts" isn't going to fly.  2funny

LMAO....Media Matters is a hate site?  Yeah, I guess any source who doesn't let the whackos get away with their lies unchallenged is certainly hated by those who lie....

Reading the comments by readers I saw one common factor... Lots of viscous name calling. I guess that's why you like that site so much.
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2009, 01:19:32 PM »

No, I like the site because it doesn't call names or give opinions. It just presents the facts and lets the reader decide.

 Now, some people are so fed up with the birthers, teabaggers, flat earthers and other people who spread that garbage that it does elicit a pretty strong reaction.  Understandable after 8 years of non-reality based government.

But you can't base an opinion on a site by some of it's readers comments. If so, people might think VRCC is a bunch of right wing whackos masquerading as a motorcycle blog. Wouldn't want that would we?
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2009, 01:24:45 PM »

No, I like the site because it doesn't call names or give opinions. It just presents the facts and lets the reader decide.

 Now, some people are so fed up with the birthers, teabaggers, flat earthers and other people who spread that garbage that it does elicit a pretty strong reaction.  Understandable after 8 years of non-reality based government.

Wow... Going off on people calling names, and then in the next breath referring to people in the tea party movement as "teabaggers"...

Wow... The hypocrisy just went off the scale...
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2009, 01:27:43 PM »

Teabaggers????  Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2009, 01:28:36 PM »

LOL, I believe that's what they are called aren't they?  Check out "the Urban Dictionary" or Wiki definition....

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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2009, 01:37:10 PM »

LOL, I believe that's what they are called aren't they?
It doesnt matter what you call Americans (Rep,Dem,and Other) that stand up and let the government know that what they are doing is NOT what the country wants, needs or will stand for much longer.  Just because the Witch Pelosi and her sidekick Reid tried to package the thousands of peaceful Americans that showed up at the T.E.A. parties as fringe loonie groups doesnt mean thats what we are.  Americans that have never been political from both sides of the fence have joined the voice of a bunch of real people that just dont want to be "socialized".  Ya, flame on.......ready.......bracing....lol
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2009, 01:41:43 PM »

LOL, I believe that's what they are called aren't they?
It doesnt matter what you call Americans (Rep,Dem,and Other) that stand up and let the government know that what they are doing is NOT what the country wants, needs or will stand for much longer.  Just because the Witch Pelosi and her sidekick Reid tried to package the thousands of peaceful Americans that showed up at the T.E.A. parties as fringe loonie groups doesnt mean thats what we are.  Americans that have never been political from both sides of the fence have joined the voice of a bunch of real people that just dont want to be "socialized".  Ya, flame on.......ready.......bracing....lol
"It doesnt matter what you call Americans (Rep,Dem,and Other) that stand up and let the government know that what they are doing is NOT what the country wants, needs or will stand for much longer."

It's called voting and that's exactly what happened in the last election.  By the way - your guys lost big time.
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2009, 02:19:10 PM »

LOL, I believe that's what they are called aren't they?  Check out "the Urban Dictionary" or Wiki definition....



C'mon guys...All my good buddy Scanner is sayin is 'dont knock it 'till ya try it' and this new czar will help you youngsters see what you are missing out on!
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2009, 02:20:51 PM »

Wow...not only has someone drank the koolaid....someone has chugged it!!!!   uglystupid2 2funny

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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2009, 02:22:53 PM »

LOL, I believe that's what they are called aren't they?
It doesnt matter what you call Americans (Rep,Dem,and Other) that stand up and let the government know that what they are doing is NOT what the country wants, needs or will stand for much longer.  Just because the Witch Pelosi and her sidekick Reid tried to package the thousands of peaceful Americans that showed up at the T.E.A. parties as fringe loonie groups doesnt mean thats what we are.  Americans that have never been political from both sides of the fence have joined the voice of a bunch of real people that just dont want to be "socialized".  Ya, flame on.......ready.......bracing....lol
"It doesnt matter what you call Americans (Rep,Dem,and Other) that stand up and let the government know that what they are doing is NOT what the country wants, needs or will stand for much longer."

It's called voting and that's exactly what happened in the last election.  By the way - your guys lost big time.

That is funny....I dont know how they lost because I didnt see "My Guys" were even in the competition.
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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2009, 02:37:38 PM »

LOL, I believe that's what they are called aren't they?  Check out "the Urban Dictionary" or Wiki definition....

Scanner, before you start using references that YOU don't know the meaning of, maybe you should find out.  Teabagger is a derogatory term used by the left wing media to refer to those involved  in the Tea Parties.  The term is sexual in nature and obviously they know what it means and the Tea Party members didn't.  A "teabagger" is defined as: a man who dips his testicles into the mouth of another person (as if dipping a tea bag into hot water).

As far as Tea Party members go, since you don't agree with their point of view that invalidates their 1st Amendment Rights?
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« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2009, 02:46:39 PM »

                                  http://mediamatters.org/blog/200912060012.
                      
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We're sorry, but the page you requested cannot be found.

Regardless of  the Error 404  


"One of the workshops, titled "What They Didn't Tell You About Queer Sex and Sexuality in Health Class: Workshop for Youth Only, Ages 14-21," was run by two Massachusetts state Department of Education staffers and a state DoE consultant."
   AND
"Basically, during the workshop, students asked a lot of very explicit questions about sex, and received explicit answers. As Hoft himself acknowledges in the body of his posts, it is the Department of Education staffers - not Jennings himself - who appear in the audio giving those answers."
   SO
Send yer gay kids to Massachusetts,Ted Kennedy's legacy can live on thru them!
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« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2009, 03:06:01 PM »


Scanner, before you start using references that YOU don't know the meaning of, maybe you should find out.  Teabagger is a derogatory term used by the left wing media to refer to those involved  in the Tea Parties.  The term is sexual in nature and obviously they know what it means and the Tea Party members didn't.  A "teabagger" is defined as: a man who dips his testicles into the mouth of another person (as if dipping a tea bag into hot water).

As far as Tea Party members go, since you don't agree with their point of view that invalidates their 1st Amendment Rights?

Damn!  I liked it better when I did not know what it meant!!   Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2009, 03:37:40 PM »

Neither the Republicrats or the Demarxists offered the kind of hope or change I was looking for in the '08 election.  It's insanity to believe, or even hope, that the two parties who have broken the system (and the country) can be the ones to repair anything.  If you want meaningful change, my opinion, backed by my voting record, is that you must go third-party.

For those who would say that a vote for Perot was, in fact, a vote for Clinton OR that my vote for Bob Barr was, in fact, a vote for the usurper denies that my vote was cast based on principle, not party loyalty or political calculation.  While Barr was not my first choice, he was the candidate of the largest party properly represented on the TX ballot.  What, you say?  Neither the DNC nor the RNC even bothered to get their "candidates" on the TX ballot before the deadline had passed.  Neither were there properly.  Talk about broken system.  

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« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2009, 03:41:06 PM »

lol, did I say I didn't know what it means?  I may not be a Republican but I know what it means.

"As far as Teabag partymembers go, since you don't agree with their point of view that invalidates their 1st Amendment Rights?"

 Never said that. They have a right to protests all they want to.  It's pretty amusing to the rest of us, them with their little teabags stapled to their clothes.
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« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2009, 03:44:41 PM »


It's called voting and that's exactly what happened in the last election.  By the way - your guys lost big time.
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It's funny, I have been seeing stories in the news that Dems are trying to distance themselves from President Obama now.

That does sound a little familiar.....

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« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2009, 04:24:43 PM »

LOL, I believe that's what they are called aren't they?  Check out "the Urban Dictionary" or Wiki definition....

Scanner, before you start using references that YOU don't know the meaning of, maybe you should find out.  Teabagger is a derogatory term used by the left wing media to refer to those involved  in the Tea Parties.  The term is sexual in nature and obviously they know what it means and the Tea Party members didn't.  A "teabagger" is defined as: a man who dips his testicles into the mouth of another person (as if dipping a tea bag into hot water).


Soooooo.......are we saying this is a bad thing?!  2funny No comment Steamer!
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« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2009, 04:26:18 PM »

hmmm... maybe training them to be congressional pages for Republicans like Mark Foley and Larry "Wide-Stance" Craig?

Or maybe they are just teaching our kids how to "loosen up" a bit for the policies that are going to be rammed up their backsides by this administration?  ???

Hey, if they "loosen up" (is that what you guys call that?) enough to fit their heads up there they can become Republicans!!!

I'm pretty sure that position is generally reserved for Democrats from the Pacific northwest.

It's easier for them, though, because they normally have small heads and very easily accessed anal orifices.

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That is the funniest thing I have read in a long time!  2funny  cooldude
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« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2009, 05:33:20 PM »



I'm pretty sure that position is generally reserved for Democrats from the Pacific northwest.

It's easier for them, though, because they normally have small heads and very easily accessed anal orifices.

 Grin

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« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2009, 06:05:59 PM »

                                 http://mediamatters.org/blog/200912060012.
                      Send yer gay kids to Massachusetts,Ted Kennedy's legacy can live on thru them!
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Ted Kennedy, now how did Ted get into this thread? We really should leave him out, R.I.P. Ted.

By the way, I did just read that he has finally earned his first ever "sober for 90 days" pin.

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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2009, 06:13:53 PM »

                                  http://mediamatters.org/blog/200912060012.
                      Send yer gay kids to Massachusetts,Ted Kennedy's legacy can live on thru them!
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Ted Kennedy, now how did Ted get into this thread? We really should leave him out, R.I.P. Ted.

By the way, I did just read that he has finally earned his first ever "sober for 90 days" pin.

Raymond


90 days ! ? Why would any one ever want t.....OHHHH,never mind...I get it, now.  uglystupid2
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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2009, 07:44:55 PM »

                                 http://mediamatters.org/blog/200912060012.
                      Send yer gay kids to Massachusetts,Ted Kennedy's legacy can live on thru them!
                                                      uglystupid2


Ted Kennedy, now how did Ted get into this thread? We really should leave him out, R.I.P. Ted.

By the way, I did just read that he has finally earned his first ever "sober for 90 days" pin.

Raymond


Now this is the second funniest thing I've read today!  You Kansas guys are funny! 2funny
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« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2009, 09:49:00 PM »

So Scanner, you like this Jennings fellow that your god appointed to be involved in the lives of kids?
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« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2009, 08:10:57 AM »

    He said people who run workshops in the future will get clearer guidelines, though Jennings said the network's annual conference at Tufts University should not be judged on the 30-student seminar "What They Didn't Tell You About Queer Sex and Sexuality in Health Class."

    "We need to make our expectations and guidelines to outside facilitators much more clear," said Jennings. "Because we are surprised and troubled by some of the accounts we've heard." [Boston Herald, 5/18/2000]


As usual... the plot thickens...  Roll Eyes



"But despite Media Matters’ claims, Kevin Jennings and his GLSEN organization did nothing to clean up their act. In fact in 2001 activists handed out “fisting kits” to the children and teachers who attended the GLSEN conference.

That’s correct. Fisting kits.

At Kevin Jennings’ 2001 GLSEN Conference an estimated 400 student attendees were given their own “fisting kit.”"


http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/08/fistgate-ii-high-school-students-given-fisting-kits-at-kevin-jennings-2001-glsen-conference/#more-42618


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« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2009, 08:40:37 AM »

Disgraceful and disgusting.  Anyone remotely connected to handing out this material needs to be in jail, and When we take Obama at his word we are flamed as fanatics and worse......he did say we could judge him by the quality of people he surrounds himself with..........where is the accountability?  Surely Obama doesnt think this is ok that his appointee does these things.....This is Obama's he cant blame this one on GW!
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