2KVISRiderDan
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« Last Edit: January 25, 2020, 11:00:02 PM by 2KVISRiderDan »
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2005 Yamaha Midnight Star SOLD 1997 Yamaha Royal Star Std SOLD 2000 Blue & Grey Interstate 2001 Black & Champagne Solo Interstate 1998 Blue & Cream Valkyrie Standard Roadsmith Trike 1997 Black Standard
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2020, 12:31:09 AM » |
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Holy crap, that is one extremely unusual and unfortunate episode.
How does it come off, then bounce forward into the tire, and how does it actually make it all the way round inside the fender? Have you closely checked out the tire too?
I have a Cobra cover that snugs on the block, and an old style Hog shock cover that snugs on the filter itself. I've never checked them for tight, but they've always been tight on 6-8K oil changes.
I am not a superstitious type, but you may want to buy a lottery ticket (or something).
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The emperor has no clothes
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2020, 04:26:03 AM » |
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Holy crap ! You are right. It could have been a lot worse. Glad you are ok. 
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2020, 05:03:27 AM » |
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WOW. I just went over and checked my cobra cover. It was tight but now it’s tighter. I doubt that could happen again in a month of Sundays but who knows. Again....WOW
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Barnstormer
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2020, 09:31:13 AM » |
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I use a beer can that should crush easily.
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old2soon
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2020, 03:58:07 PM » |
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I use a beer can that should crush easily.
This!  Glad it weren't no worse than it was.  You ain't none the worse for wear you or the Valk did NOT git destroyed and now ya gotz a tale fer the fire pit!  I'd call it all good.  What Jess said on the lottery.  RIDE SAFE.
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Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check. 1964 1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam. VRCCDS0240 2012 GL1800 Gold Wing Motor Trike conversion
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2020, 04:15:43 PM » |
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I know this doesn't help.... but that is vaguely reminiscent of childbirth. But like in one second. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2020, 05:09:15 PM » |
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I'm still having a hard time visualizing how it got up in there ?
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2020, 05:35:48 PM » |
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When it came off, it had to bounce forward enough to get picked up by the spinning front tire, and lifted so the open or closed (narrowest) end of the cover was shoved up under the fender where the tire drug it around and out the front. It went through end to end. It could not have fitted up there sideways at it's wide point (it would have bounced off the fender and gone elsewhere). It had to be a pretty tight fit, and the tire probably deformed a bit flat, and carried it through. Residual dirt and road crud inside the fender acted as lube.
And remember, all front fenders have some rubber pad glued up under the fender, but that already came off one of my bikes.
I am thinking if there was no braking, then there was at least a throttle drop, enough to cause a perceptible slowing of forward speed, enough for inertia to initiate the last amount of (loose) forward filter cover movement, for it to come off the filter, hit the ground once, and bounce forward enough to get picked up by the spinning tire.
That or some kind of bump in the road made the suspension pitch it off, and forward.
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2020, 05:55:27 PM » |
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Aerodynamics can be weird. When riding in the rain, I occasionally see water droplets from somewhere around my chest shoot forward onto the back of the windshield.
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Farside
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2020, 05:58:08 PM » |
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 Wow that is really wild. I'm glad to hear that it didn't casue you to have an accident.  Do you suppose if you had a fender extender it might of kept that from happening? ???
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2020, 06:56:14 PM » |
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On repair, I'm thinking new-used will be cheaper than trying to bump it out to correct again (with a bunch of filler). You can always ride to a few shops for quotes.
Finding a nice blue and silver would be great (and hard to find), but otherwise new paint will be necessary either with a used or repaired fender. And a pinstripe.
The old bullet decal isn't going to do it.
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Bighead
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2020, 07:36:58 PM » |
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Nah just take the fender off and clear coat the way it is. The pattern it left is Pretty cool.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2020, 08:08:38 PM » |
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OK, but since it's Florida a much better story than a filter cover would be running over a fat 15 foot long python, end to end. With a big cat inside it.
Seriously, the pictures make it hard to see the extent of metal damage, except the big crease at the bottom.
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pocket aces
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2020, 07:04:10 AM » |
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Thanks for the heads up on the filter cover  I'm glad you are OK. Sorry i missed you on Saturday. Sounded like it was another great RTE.
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cagrote
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2020, 06:29:08 PM » |
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Thanks for the warning I was considering 1 just haven' gotten around to it.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2020, 07:41:00 PM » |
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OK, but since it's Florida a much better story than a filter cover would be running over a fat 15 foot long python, end to end. With a big cat inside it.
Seriously, the pictures make it hard to see the extent of metal damage, except the big crease at the bottom.
Many years ago I ran over the tail of a gator in the middle of the night. He/she was laying on the still warm blacktop surface and as I rounded a sharp curve there he was. I swung to the side and clipped his tail with my '92 Wing, was quite a bump and caused him to swing around and snap at me but I wasn't going to stop to check his damage. It was a good 6' long, but again I didn't feel it necessary to make a positive ID. Also had a wild hog chase me on that same road while on the Valk a few years later. A handful were feeding on something in the ditch when I came upon them and a big boar looked up as I rode past and decided to take chase. It was Valkyrie don't fail me now cuz I had slowed down in case one bolted out in front of me. Those suckers are fast for sure. 
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Mikerthebiker
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2020, 07:17:24 AM » |
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You could just use an Amsoil chrome filter and be done with it.
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pastmast95
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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2020, 02:37:25 PM » |
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I use a BUSH beer can! Works great!
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Bighead
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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2020, 03:51:12 PM » |
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I use a BUSH beer can! Works great!
Only problem with this is, you have to drink ??? a Bush beer to have an empty 
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old2soon
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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2020, 06:12:36 PM » |
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I use a BUSH beer can! Works great!
Only problem with this is, you have to drink ??? a Bush beer to have an empty  Actually NO you could pour it out on something or someone ya dasn't like.  RIDE SAFE.
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Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check. 1964 1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam. VRCCDS0240 2012 GL1800 Gold Wing Motor Trike conversion
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2020, 09:15:55 PM » |
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The idea of a filter cover is not to add chrome, but to add protection to a thin-walled oil filter from a rock (or other) strike, sitting out there low in the front of the bike behind the wheel. The cover in this post was pitched up under the fender, and pitching a hard object through the thin-wall filter is entirely possible. Even with a check valve, you would lose oil and have trouble.
Most of them are chrome, but that's not the main reason for one.
I would not use an equally thin-walled beer can which could also be penetrated, though it's better than nothing for adding strength to the filter.
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wirral_biker
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« Reply #23 on: February 29, 2020, 05:15:50 AM » |
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The idea of a filter cover is not to add chrome, but to add protection to a thin-walled oil filter from a rock (or other) strike, sitting out there low in the front of the bike behind the wheel. The cover in this post was pitched up under the fender, and pitching a hard object through the thin-wall filter is entirely possible. Even with a check valve, you would lose oil and have trouble.
Most of them are chrome, but that's not the main reason for one.
I would not use an equally thin-walled beer can which could also be penetrated, though it's better than nothing for adding strength to the filter.
Disagree....100% pure bling !! 
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I will never learn, on my 4th Valkyrie now !
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2020, 03:46:11 AM » |
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"AMSOIL EaOM Chrome Motorcycle Oil Filters $22.30" (WOW!) 
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h13man
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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2020, 06:09:05 AM » |
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I like the protection point of view as the oil filter is a little thin wall and exposed to all the elements. The SS kitchen shaker container from Meijer fits perfectly on the Bosch filter, the clamping method is my biggest drawback as far as the bling aspect of it. What happened to that front fender kinda scares the hell out of me as it could have been a worse case scenario.
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Ken aka Oil Burner
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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2020, 09:30:48 AM » |
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"AMSOIL EaOM Chrome Motorcycle Oil Filters $22.30" (WOW!)  Amsoil filters are not inexpensive, but they are premium quality. Many filters show an efficiency rating on the package. Pay attention to the micron rating. Amsoil is rated at 20 Microns per ISO 4548-12. Many others show high ratings, but at 25 or 30 Microns. The Amsoil filter will trap smaller particles of debris. The non-chrome is $5 less, too. I don't ever tell anyone that they need to use a particular product; your bike, your choice. Take the info and look into it yourself. Also, Amsoil has a Preferred Customer program, where you save about 25% on products, as well as receive shipping deals and other periodic specials. If you are interested in Amsoil products, but don't want to pay retail, check out the PC program. https://www.amsoil.com/offers/pc.aspx?zo=5889580
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