Alabama...mandatory snip,snip bill in the works

[Jersey mike]

Someone asked what the Dems are doing, well here’s a fine example


https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/alabama-lawmaker-responds-to-abortion-ban-with-mandatory-vasectomy-bill-it-always-takes-two-to-tango-201058496.html

“ a state legislator has introduced a bill that would require a man to undergo a vasectomy, at his own expense, “within one month of his 50th birthday or the birth of his third biological child, whichever comes first.” “

[sandy]

This is a tongue in cheek bill to protest the AL bill banning abortion.

[The emperor has no clothes]

This is a tongue in cheek bill to protest the AL bill banning abortion.

exactly  (pretty witty in my opinion)

[old2soon]

      gubmint mandated birth control.  what-we takin lessons from china? RIDE SAFE.

[Jersey mike]

This is a tongue in cheek bill to protest the AL bill banning abortion.

exactly  (pretty witty in my opinion)

Yeah, this is suppose to be one of those political attention getters, too bad it’s a huge waste of time and money. All this for the sake of getting some political name recognition and attention.

[The emperor has no clothes]

This is a tongue in cheek bill to protest the AL bill banning abortion.

exactly  (pretty witty in my opinion)

Yeah, this is suppose to be one of those political attention getters, too bad it’s a huge waste of time and money. All this for the sake of getting some political name recognition and attention.

I don't know how much it costs a Representative to submit a bill. But I doubt it's much. Surely not huge ? Kind of ironic how it's ok for a bunch of old men to dictate what women can do, but get one woman to propose what old men can do and it's a travesty. 

[Jersey mike]

This is a tongue in cheek bill to protest the AL bill banning abortion.

exactly  (pretty witty in my opinion)

Yeah, this is suppose to be one of those political attention getters, too bad it’s a huge waste of time and money. All this for the sake of getting some political name recognition and attention.

I don't know how much it costs a Representative to submit a bill. But I doubt it's much. Surely not huge ? Kind of ironic how it's ok for a bunch of old men to dictate what women can do, but get one woman to propose what old men can do and it's a travesty. 

There’s a whole plethora of arguments regarding the reproductive issue which I don’t really want to debate here.

The absurdity of writing and submitting the bill knowing it’s just an attention getter was the reason it was posted. For all I care it can be removed from the board before it gets out of hand.

[Rams]

Personally, I could not care less.

Required "Snip" after fifty or three kids.   No problem for me, I took care of that issue in my thirties when we had our second child.   My choice.   I realize others may feel differently but, I see way too many families living at or below poverty level because they don't know when to stop.   Yeah, I'm sure there are other reasons but honestly, to me if you can't provide for the family you have, you shouldn't be creating any more mouths to feed.
Edited: But, that doesn't mean I think Big Brother should be dictating such actions.  Although, such procedures are not taking a child's life, only preventing the creation of that child.

Rams

[Jersey mike]

Personally, I could not care less.

Required "Snip" after fifty or three kids.   No problem for me, I took care of that issue in my thirties when we had our second child.   My choice.   I realize others may feel differently but, I see way too many families living at or below poverty level because they don't know when to stop.   Yeah, I'm sure there are other reasons but honestly, to me if you can't provide for the family you have, you shouldn't be creating any more mouths to feed.
Edited: But, that doesn't mean I think Big Brother should be dictating such actions.  Although, such procedures are not taking a child's life, only preventing the creation of that child.

Rams

Had my own done after our 3rd, 19 years ago....tested it many times, seems to have worked.

[Jess from VA]

Personally, I could not care less.

Required "Snip" after fifty or three kids.   No problem for me, I took care of that issue in my thirties when we had our second child.   My choice.   I realize others may feel differently but, I see way too many families living at or below poverty level because they don't know when to stop.   Yeah, I'm sure there are other reasons but honestly, to me if you can't provide for the family you have, you shouldn't be creating any more mouths to feed.
Edited: But, that doesn't mean I think Big Brother should be dictating such actions.  Although, such procedures are not taking a child's life, only preventing the creation of that child.

Rams

Had my own done after our 3rd, 19 years ago....tested it many times, seems to have worked.

Me too, on active duty.  When I went in for the one week later test, I asked the military nurse if she could give me a hand with it.  She was a good sport and laughed and rolled her eyes, and said she'd never heard that one before; but that kind of humor can get you in trouble today.  

The freedom from worry was quite liberating.  Not that I ever felt the need to go sticking it in all sorts of strange places.  My Middle Eastern wife would not have approved, and might have removed the entire appendage... with a pair of bolt cutters that had not been properly sanitized.  I always found her enthusiasm quite invigorating, even tiring.

[Rams]

Mandatory vasectomy at age 50? Alabama lawmaker proposes response to abortion ban

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mandatory-vasectomy-at-age-50-alabama-lawmaker-proposes-response-to-abortion-ban/ar-BB106ezS?ocid=spartanntp

Will this get traction and move forward?
I have my doubts but, do agree with Rep. Rolanda Hollis, we (as men) are just as responsible as the ladies we see.
Edited: IF passed (doubtful), I'm sure there will be some very interesting court challenges.

Rams

[old2soon]

         Dad told me a long time ago it takes two to tango. He weren't talkin bout dancin. Far far Too many "men" refuse to accept any responsibility. And I M H O those duds need to lose their "man" card. And Woman on the other hand nee to recognize their choice. RIDE SAFE.

[Chrisj CMA]

It will never become law.  What are they going to make every man get an exam to see if he has everything hooked up or not?  Its not going to happen

[The emperor has no clothes]

It will never become law.  What are they going to make every man get an exam to see if he has everything hooked up or not?  Its not going to happen

Mandatory exam at 49 years 9 months.  (As Sandy explained it was tongue in cheek)

[Moonshot_1]

I would amend the bill to attach it to current Welfare recipients and specific convicted criminals. Rapist, abusers, and the like. And not make it a tongue in cheek bill.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I would amend the bill to attach it to current Welfare recipients and specific convicted criminals. Rapist, abusers, and the like. And not make it a tongue in cheek bill.

A vasectomy is likely to have NO EFFECT on rapists, abusers, and the like. I would amend the Bill to only include over the age of 50 gay men. (Definitely tongue in cheek)

[GiG]

I would amend the bill to attach it to current Welfare recipients and specific convicted criminals. Rapist, abusers, and the like. And not make it a tongue in cheek bill.

A vasectomy is likely to have NO EFFECT on rapists, abusers, and the like.

So, rhetorically speaking, according to your post, you would rather a female family member is molested by a non-vasectomy rapist, abuser and the like. Truely fascinating.

[scooperhsd]

I would amend the bill to attach it to current Welfare recipients and specific convicted criminals. Rapist, abusers, and the like. And not make it a tongue in cheek bill.

A vasectomy is likely to have NO EFFECT on rapists, abusers, and the like. I would amend the Bill to only include over the age of 50 gay men. (Definitely tongue in cheek)

If you want to deal with rapists and other sexual predators - you need to flat out castrate them - IOW, cut them off.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I would amend the bill to attach it to current Welfare recipients and specific convicted criminals. Rapist, abusers, and the like. And not make it a tongue in cheek bill.

A vasectomy is likely to have NO EFFECT on rapists, abusers, and the like.

So, rhetorically speaking, according to your post, you would rather a female family member is molested by a non-vasectomy rapist, abuser and the like. Truely fascinating.

Gig, I believe you are more perceptive than that.

Having no effect on their actions, means it would not impede them from their heinous acts. For me personally, the act would be just as atrocious were they clipped or not. (Truly ?)

[The emperor has no clothes]

I would amend the bill to attach it to current Welfare recipients and specific convicted criminals. Rapist, abusers, and the like. And not make it a tongue in cheek bill.

A vasectomy is likely to have NO EFFECT on rapists, abusers, and the like. I would amend the Bill to only include over the age of 50 gay men. (Definitely tongue in cheek)

If you want to deal with rapists and other sexual predators - you need to flat out castrate them - IOW, cut them off.

I would be more in line with this. Actually, I think child molestors should be punished with death. Sexual predators, a minimum of 20 years.

[MAD6Gun]

I would amend the bill to attach it to current Welfare recipients and specific convicted criminals. Rapist, abusers, and the like. And not make it a tongue in cheek bill.

A vasectomy is likely to have NO EFFECT on rapists, abusers, and the like. I would amend the Bill to only include over the age of 50 gay men. (Definitely tongue in cheek)

If you want to deal with rapists and other sexual predators - you need to flat out castrate them - IOW, cut them off.

I would be more in line with this. Actually, I think child molestors should be punished with death. Sexual predators, a minimum of 20 years.

 STOP THE PRESSES. Something Rob and I agree on. Oh the humanity of it all.

 Seriously though,I agree. All child molesters should get a 45 caliber lobotomy.

[Moonshot_1]

I would amend the bill to attach it to current Welfare recipients and specific convicted criminals. Rapist, abusers, and the like. And not make it a tongue in cheek bill.

A vasectomy is likely to have NO EFFECT on rapists, abusers, and the like. I would amend the Bill to only include over the age of 50 gay men. (Definitely tongue in cheek)

If you want to deal with rapists and other sexual predators - you need to flat out castrate them - IOW, cut them off.

Why that would make an EXCELLENT amendment to the bill! See, this is how legislation is made!