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« on: March 07, 2020, 03:54:34 PM » |
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Anyone here know if those L E D fluorescent tube replacements are plug and play? I've replaced a bunch of incandescent bulbs with L E Ds and already seeing my tricity bill lowered some. My shop has too many shadow areas. Thinkin those L E D fluorescents Might help a bunch. As always T I A fer any and all help!  RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2020, 06:35:36 PM » |
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I picked up new LED shop light fixtures for about $30 each at Menards. It was cheaper to replace the entire fixture than buying the replacement bulbs. These are daylight, 4 ft, 2 bulb style with plug and pull switch even though mine are direct wire on a wall switch. I just replaced the cover plate on the electrical ceiling box and cut the plug off to wire them up. I suppose I could have just added outlets to the ceiling boxes but....These are similar to the fixtures I used https://www.menards.com/main/lighting-ceiling-fans/commercial-lights/smart-electrician-reg-5000-lumens-46-x-6-led-tread-plate-shop-light/pes120led-st1-s-4800/p-1493360352403.htm. There are some fixtures on their site for less than $20. As soon as I had them all up a buddy of mine who is an electrician by trade found some 4 ft x 4 bulb direct wire LED fixtures at a supply house that they were clearing out at the same price as the Menards lights. I added a few of those to the others and now I need sun glasses when I turn them all on.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2020, 07:11:21 PM » |
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Sometimes the ballast is not compatable with the bulbs. This is the case where it is easier and cheaper to replace the entire unit. As me how I know.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2020, 07:33:09 PM » |
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I put these up. They are regularly on sale for $19.99. They are the brightest lights I've ever had in any garage. https://harborfreight.com/4-ft-led-hanging-shop-light-64410.html
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2020, 08:23:22 PM » |
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blue light is bad for eyes and what LEDs put out https://news.yahoo.com/led-light-damage-eyes-health-authority-warns-002221659.htmlThe "blue light" in LED lighting can damage the eye's retina and disturb natural sleep rhythms, France's government-run health watchdog said this week. New findings confirm earlier concerns that "exposure to an intense and powerful [LED] light is 'photo-toxic' and can lead to irreversible loss of retinal cells and diminished sharpness of vision," the French Agency for Food, Environmental and Occupational Health & Safety (ANSES) warned in a statement. The agency recommended in a 400-page report that the maximum limit for acute exposure be revised, even if such levels are rarely met in home or work environments. The report distinguished between acute exposure of high-intensity LED light, and "chronic exposure" to lower intensity sources.
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2020, 05:56:37 PM » |
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Led lighting is variable by color temperature. 2600 Kelvin is the same as soft white incandescent bulbs, 3000 Kelvin will be daylight incandescent, 4000 Kelvin will be still mostly white starting into the blue spectrum, 5000 Kelvin is ice blue and 6000 Kelvin is blue. A shop light to eliminate shadows should be in the 3000-4000 Kelvin range. I wonder if the French health folks even know that based on that short, condensed blurb of a 400 page report that was presented. I have 3000 Kelvin ceiling lights throughout my home, 4000 Kelvin in the shop, and I have no more trouble sleeping than any other 60+ YO male adolescent.  The use of LED lighting has significantly lowered my power bill.
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2020, 06:37:39 AM » |
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Sometimes the ballast is not compatible with the bulbs. This is the case where it is easier and cheaper to replace the entire unit. As me how I know.
da prez
Recently replaced tubes in the old fixtures. You reroute the old wires bypassing the ballast. A bit confusing as there was no instruction at first. Went online and every site had different thought/description on how to do it. Finally by accident the instructions fell out one of the boxes  then all was good.
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2020, 06:53:30 AM » |
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I replaced my 4' tubes with the ballast delete style. Removed ballast and rewired. There is a type available that is plug and play using the original ballast, but the buzzing from the ballast is what I wanted to eliminate. Love them, instant on and no flickering or noise. 
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2020, 08:17:10 AM » |
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Sometimes the ballast is not compatible with the bulbs. This is the case where it is easier and cheaper to replace the entire unit. As me how I know.
da prez
Recently replaced tubes in the old fixtures. You reroute the old wires bypassing the ballast. A bit confusing as there was no instruction at first. Went online and every site had different thought/description on how to do it. Finally by accident the instructions fell out one of the boxes  then all was good. I've always heard if all else fails read the instructions!  RIDE SAFE.
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Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check. 1964 1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam. VRCCDS0240 2012 GL1800 Gold Wing Motor Trike conversion
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2020, 08:34:09 AM » |
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I put in four 8foot T8's a few years ago, really lit my garage up! Guess I'm going to go blind now since are Microbiologist turned Dermatologists turned Optometrist member has posted his studies again 
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2020, 11:35:38 AM » |
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I put in four 8foot T8's a few years ago, really lit my garage up! Guess I'm going to go blind now since are Microbiologist turned Dermatologists turned Optometrist member has posted his studies again  Its "our" and not "are". grammar  I just posted info for people to peruse and discern. I did not tell anyone to not use LED lights! It has been a well known medical fact for decades that the blue light wave spectrum accelerates the aging of the eyes. This is why the blu blocker sunglasses became available over a decade ago. now called all type of fancy names. You must've seen the commercials?
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2020, 06:31:16 AM » |
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I put in four 8foot T8's a few years ago, really lit my garage up! Guess I'm going to go blind now since are Microbiologist turned Dermatologists turned Optometrist member has posted his studies again  Its "our" and not "are". grammar  I just posted info for people to peruse and discern. I did not tell anyone to not use LED lights! It has been a well known medical fact for decades that the blue light wave spectrum accelerates the aging of the eyes. This is why the blu blocker sunglasses became available over a decade ago. now called all type of fancy names. You must've seen the commercials? Thanks for correcting, No need to get excited, I understand sarcasm can be difficult to decipher meaning from text.  Like the "as seen on TV" commercials? TAC Glasses? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD44F25rocU 
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