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Corono worldwide
3/19/20 8,500 total deaths 3/20/20 10,500 3/21/20. 11,800 3/22/20 13,548 313,415 cases 3/23/20. 15,303 349,600 3/24/20 16,585. 383,894 3/25/20 19,606 434,839 3/26/20. 21,566. 479,472 3/27/20. 24,872. 549,572
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3/22/20. 348 deaths. 26,900 cases 3/23/20. 458. 35,070 3/24/20. 582 46,148 3/25/20. 784. 54,963 3/26/20. 1,036. 68,57 3/27/20. 1,304. 85,704
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2020, 07:11:28 AM » |
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I am not a statistician or a mathematician but...... What would you expect when you have s simpler, more readily available test for the virus available? It was fully expected that as testing increased, the number of "known" cases of the virus would increase. Dr. Brix addressed this yesterday very eloquently during the Presidents press conference. I am no longer a fan of "The Hill" but here is an article based on Dr. Birx's statements yesterday. One quote: “That’s almost 40 percent of the country with extraordinarily low numbers and they are testing,” Birx said https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/489774-birx-cautions-against-inaccurate-models-predicting-signficant-coronavirus
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2020, 07:30:44 AM » |
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To put things within perspective, if you live in Spain, the most hard struck of large population countries, your chance of being diagnosed with COVID-19 would be a little less than 1 in 750. In the U.S.A. your chances are about one fifth of that.
Your chances of being significantly impacted by the prevent shutdown are much, much higher.
I'm not saying the isolation is not needed. I don't know. I do know that both the virus and the measures taken to fight the virus cause damage, and death. It's not a choice of bad or good. It's a choice of bad or worse.
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2020, 07:35:00 AM » |
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It's a choice of bad or worse.
Lest we forget it didn't have to be. (s) Again, thanks to China for getting on this right away, and being upfront with the world from the get go. (/S)
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2020, 07:39:36 AM » |
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It's a choice of bad or worse.
Let we forget it didn't have to be. (s) Again, thanks to China for getting on this right away, and being upfront with the world from the get go. (/S) I recognize the sarcasm, Valkorado, and it may be true but nonetheless it is speculation of what might have happened if something had been different.
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2020, 08:14:26 AM » |
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I agree, just blowing steam. I haven't caught Chinavirus yet, but I've taken an economic blow already and on that front we've all been affected. The lockdowns will be a killer fiscally and emotionally. I'm afraid not just short term. And every time I think of that whistleblower doctor who was forced to publicly deny his findings... grr. That heads up sure could have changed the current state of affairs.
(s)It's OK the ChiCom government apologized for the incident, and "mourned" his death.(/s)
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2020, 08:20:05 AM » |
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Here's my take. The infection increase isn't very meaningful since it reflects the vastly increasing number of tests performed, but the number of deaths is accurate. Since the ratio of deaths to actual (not just tested) infections is probably constant, the REAL infection curve should be similar in shape to the fatality curve. I built the chart below from fatality data I found online. These numbers can vary a bit based on the time of day the count is made. There's no real trend at this time, but when this curve begins to flatten it's likely the infection curve may already be flattening. 
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2020, 08:40:55 AM » |
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Misinterpreted the first time around, I see you are considering the untested. I think you're on to something here...
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2020, 09:08:27 AM » |
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Misinterpreted the first time around, I see you are considering the untested. I think you're on to something here...
I thought that since the testing has been so hit or miss, and it sometimes takes weeks to get results, the infection counts may be interesting but not very significant statistically. But the fatality data is accurate, timely, and useful. Another thought I had is the fatalities lag the infection onset by as much as several weeks. So when the fatality curve begins to flatten, the infection curve may have been improving for a while.
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2020, 01:52:42 PM » |
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Current stat for US is 5 deaths per one million people Total cases per one million people 303 2465 are serious cases of the 96,384 active cases 2465 recovered total deaths 1543 100,392 cases While not good, the stats on what is happening to the economy will be interesting. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2020, 02:19:09 PM » |
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Current stat for US is 5 deaths per one million people
Ya, those who are not infected with the virus do not die from it!  But I see your point. Most of those who are don't either! I'd still bet the ranch that China's case numbers blow ours out of the water. For some reason, I just don't trust 'em.
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2020, 02:25:22 PM » |
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Current stat for US is 5 deaths per one million people Total cases per one million people 303 2465 are serious cases of the 96,384 active cases 2465 recovered total deaths 1543 100,392 cases While not good, the stats on what is happening to the economy will be interesting. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/Unfortunately, most of the experts figure it’s just getting started. Let’s hope and pray these lockdowns will mitigate it.
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2020, 02:47:36 PM » |
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Unfortunately, most of the experts figure it’s just getting started. Let’s hope and pray these lockdowns will mitigate it.
My third biggest fear in this is that we stay locked down for several weeks/months, the number of dead is minimal, and when it's all over people start saying the lockdown was for nothing. Kinda like Y2K, people after said it was blown out of proportion; no it wasn't, there was a TON of work put into MAKING it a non-issue.
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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2020, 02:51:54 PM » |
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Unfortunately, most of the experts figure it’s just getting started. Let’s hope and pray these lockdowns will mitigate it.
My third biggest fear in this is that we stay locked down for several weeks/months, the number of dead is minimal, and when it's all over people start saying the lockdown was for nothing. Kinda like Y2K, people after said it was blown out of proportion; no it wasn't, there was a TON of work put into MAKING it a non-issue. The best scientists all say the lockdown is saving lives. How many, I don't know. I'm merely a lowly peasant.  What are your first and second fears, BTW?
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2020, 03:02:59 PM » |
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What are your first and second fears, BTW?
1st is that it's worse than anyone thinks and 2nd is that government has gotten a taste for how quickly and easily we're willing to give up our basic rights and won't willingly relinquish that power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuP2wvTAj0E
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2020, 03:20:02 PM » |
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What are your first and second fears, BTW?
1st is that it's worse than anyone thinks and 2nd is that government has gotten a taste for how quickly and easily we're willing to give up our basic rights and won't willingly relinquish that power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuP2wvTAj0E  frighteningly feasible. I never liked that Jar Jar! I think Palpatine was easier to warm up to!
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2020, 04:09:08 PM » |
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Current stat for US is 5 deaths per one million people ...
That's interesting. I wonder what is the deaths per million in automobile accidents over the past two months? 
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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2020, 04:26:47 PM » |
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Current stat for US is 5 deaths per one million people ...
That's interesting. I wonder what is the deaths per million in automobile accidents over the past two months?  I was wondering how many automobile deaths involved vehicle operators with COVID-19? I'm inquisitive.
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2020, 04:30:28 PM » |
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Current stat for US is 5 deaths per one million people ...
That's interesting. I wonder what is the deaths per million in automobile accidents over the past two months?  I was wondering how many automobile deaths involved vehicle operators with COVID-19? I'm inquisitive. I was wondering how many auto deaths were avoided because they were on a ventilator in ICU ?
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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2020, 04:34:45 PM » |
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Current stat for US is 5 deaths per one million people ...
That's interesting. I wonder what is the deaths per million in automobile accidents over the past two months?  I was wondering how many automobile deaths involved vehicle operators with COVID-19? I'm inquisitive. I was wondering how many auto deaths were avoided because they were on a ventilator in ICU ? 
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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2020, 04:46:23 PM » |
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Kinda like Y2K, people after said it was blown out of proportion; no it wasn't, there was a TON of work put into MAKING it a non-issue.
Yes Y2K was an event mitigated by prior planning and addressing of issues both by changes to methods and programs and, in some cases, simply taking units off line and restarting. Reminds me of the Five Ps Prior Planning Prevent Piss-Poor Performance. I guess it could be six Ps.
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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2020, 05:45:49 PM » |
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Current stat for US is 5 deaths per one million people ...
That's interesting. I wonder what is the deaths per million in automobile accidents over the past two months?  I was wondering how many automobile deaths involved vehicle operators with COVID-19? I'm inquisitive. I was wondering how many auto deaths were avoided because they were on a ventilator in ICU ?  LOL! We have been told many times during question and answer sessions that the only stupid question is the one not asked. We have now seen demonstrated the falsity of that premise. 
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« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2020, 05:56:29 PM » |
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I just read that in Italy, patients over 60 are denied ventilators. Isn't socialized medicine great! The equal sharing of misery may not be as 'fair' as advertised.
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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2020, 06:03:33 PM » |
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LOL! We have been told many times during question and answer sessions that the only stupid question is the one not asked. We have now seen demonstrated the falsity of that premise.  Sort of like wondering what the folks were thinking when they saw that headless deer running into traffic, ay? 
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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2020, 06:43:36 PM » |
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Sort of like wondering what the folks were thinking when they saw that headless deer running into traffic, ay?  That had to be spooky! I could have nightmares thinking about that. 
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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2020, 06:58:38 PM » |
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Sort of like wondering what the folks were thinking when they saw that headless deer running into traffic, ay?  That had to be spooky! I could have nightmares thinking about that.  It's good to have that inquisitive, childlike imagination! Glad we share that!  And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 18:3
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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2020, 09:24:09 PM » |
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People 3 words. WASH YOUR HANDS!
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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2020, 09:57:33 PM » |
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People 3 words. WASH YOUR HANDS!
Bighead if I remember correctly you work in the medical profession? ER field? If so and if you have any personal stories regarding this virus to share please do! I'd like to hear from someone we know who is seeing firsthand what's going on. Be really careful, Bro '. You guys deserve lots more money than you're earning! Thanks.
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« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2020, 09:29:21 PM » |
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My wife is a math whiz so we are playing with the numbers.
As of 3-26-2020 we are 737.8 times more likely to get the Flu (Influenza) than the CoronaVirus, and we are 36 times more likely to die from The Flu than the CoronaVirus.
Not down playing the virus, whereas uncertainty is in the air. There are however 10's of millions of people with the flu, and families who have lost a love one who are like, "HELLO!"
And of course not a mention of the Flu in the news.
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« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2020, 09:37:09 PM » |
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My wife is a math whiz so we are playing with the numbers.
As of 3-26-2020 we are 737.8 times more likely to get the Flu (Influenza) than the CoronaVirus, and we are 36 times more likely to die from The Flu than the CoronaVirus.
Not down playing the virus, whereas uncertainty is in the air. There are however 10's of millions of people with the flu, and families who have lost a love one who are like, "HELLO!"
And of course not a mention of the Flu in the news.
Josh, maybe if the CDC or DHHS hires your wife we can put all this nonsense behind us and get back to some semblance of normalcy! Love ya Bro! 
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« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2020, 05:23:55 AM » |
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USA had over 500 deaths last 24 hrs
Corono worldwide
3/19/20 8,500 total deaths 3/20/20 10,500 3/21/20. 11,800 3/22/20 13,548 313,415 cases 3/23/20. 15,303 349,600 3/24/20 16,585. 383,894 3/25/20 19,606 434,839 3/26/20. 21,566. 479,472 3/27/20. 24,872. 549,572 3/28/20. 27,610. 605,314 3/29/20. 31,737. 677,660
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3/22/20. 348 deaths. 26,900 cases 3/23/20. 458. 35,070 3/24/20. 582 46,148 3/25/20. 784. 54,963 3/26/20. 1,036. 68,57 3/27/20. 1,304. 85,704 3/28/20. 1,704. 104,256 3/29/20. 2,229. 123,781
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« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2020, 05:47:22 AM » |
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In the news question was asked if you already have the regular flu is it possible to get the coronovirus at the same time. CDC says yes you can have multiple viruses at the same time
World Health Organization says Coronovirus cannot be spread by Mosquito bites
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« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2020, 07:10:15 AM » |
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I'll just drop these "stats" here. Keep in mind these are potential numbers and not stats yet, but Fauci seems confident in them. Don't shoot the messenger.From Anthony Fauci. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/29/anthony-fauci-predicts-millions-us-coronavirus-cas/WASHINGTON -- The U.S. government’s foremost infection disease expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci, says the U.S. will certainly have “millions of cases” of COVID-19 and more than 100,000 deaths.As the U.S. tops the world in reported infections from the new coronavirus, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases predicts 100,000-200,000 deaths from the outbreak in the U.S. The U.S. is currently reporting more than 124,000 cases and more than 2,100 deaths. Fauci was speaking to CNN’s “State of the Union” as the federal government is discussing rolling back guidelines on social distancing in areas that have not been hard-hit by the outbreak. Fauci says he would only support the rollback in lesser-impacted areas if there is enhanced availability of testing in place to monitor those areas. He acknowledged “it’s a little iffy there” right now. Well, heck, that could be worse than -- but in addition to -- the flu we all know and love so! Something I've said numerous times. I hope Fauci is wrong!EDIT: As of this morning Deborah Birks is in agreement with these numbers saying 100,000 deaths in the US is a best case scenario based on us doing everything right. Current deaths in Italy about 10,000  BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES! DONT PANIC! WASH YOUR DAMN HANDS!
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Corono worldwide
3/19/20 8,500 total deaths 3/20/20 10,500 3/21/20. 11,800 3/22/20 13,548 313,415 cases 3/23/20. 15,303 349,600 3/24/20 16,585. 383,894 3/25/20 19,606 434,839 3/26/20. 21,566. 479,472 3/27/20. 24,872. 549,572 3/28/20. 27,610. 605,314 3/29/20. 31,737. 677,650 3/30/20. 34,866. 736,326 3/31/20. 39,040. 803,547
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3/22/20. 348 deaths. 26,900 cases 3/23/20. 458. 35,070 3/24/20. 582 46,148 3/25/20. 784. 54,963 3/26/20. 1,036. 68,57 3/27/20. 1,304. 85,704 3/28/20. 1,704. 104,256 3/29/20. 2,229. 123,781 3/30/20. 2,490 142,793 3/31/20. 3,177. 164,665
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