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« on: March 29, 2020, 03:13:15 PM » |
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Get HF email 2 or 3 times a week, Items reduced,our part to help during virus.
Same sale prices as a year ago and some higher. BS
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2020, 09:18:01 PM » |
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they gotta do something to get you to shop since businesses all over going down the tubes and will continue to well into May am sure now.
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Valkorado
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Gunnison, Colorado (7,703') Here there be twisties.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2020, 09:26:29 PM » |
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Cheap Chinese crap! Somehow much less appealing nowadays.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2020, 08:07:57 AM » |
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Cheap Chinese crap! Somehow much less appealing nowadays.
Agreed. After this, many of us will think twice before buying products from China. I know I will. But over the years I did buy some HF tools, and to be fair the quality has improved. Several years ago I needed a rotary hammer for a single project. I thought about a rental, but HF had one that cost less than renting. When I bought it the checkout guy asked if I wanted the extended warranty. I answered, if it works today, I'll be fine! |
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MarkT
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2020, 11:18:09 AM » |
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When I need quality, I buy American. That's pretty much ALL power tools. Fond of Milwaukee - especially since they have a factory service center here. I've bought a lot of HF hand tools. Sometimes I just can't justify Snap-On prices. And the fact my ex retired from Snap-On headquarters has nothing to do with it.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2020, 08:50:32 AM » |
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When I need quality, I buy American. That's pretty much ALL power tools. Fond of Milwaukee - especially since they have a factory service center here. I've bought a lot of HF hand tools. Sometimes I just can't justify Snap-On prices. And the fact my ex retired from Snap-On headquarters has nothing to do with it.
I don't know which Milwaukee tools you are buying that are made in USA, unless you're buying old used tools. They might make some or assemble some in USA, but I don't know of any. I love the old Milwaukee tools I have, but most parts for these are hard to find or no longer made. |
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2020, 09:55:55 AM » |
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Quote from: Valkorado on Yesterday at 03:44:29 AM
Cheap Chinese crap! Somehow much less appealing nowadays.
Agreed. After this, many of us will think twice before buying products from China. I know I will. But over the years I did buy some HF tools, and to be fair the quality has improved.
Several years ago I needed a rotary hammer for a single project. I thought about a rental, but HF had one that cost less than renting. When I bought it the checkout guy asked if I wanted the extended warranty. I answered, if it works today, I'll be fine!
Ditto here. I do buy their heat guns, as we go thru them in the sign shop. I buy one extended warranty and use it to replace the guns when they burn up. What amazes me about HF is the size of their advertising budget. Have no idea how much they spend, but virtually any publication I pick up has at least a full page ad. Even the Smithsonian and Rotary International. Blows me away... |
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MarkT
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2020, 10:18:42 AM » |
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I buy the parts that wear out on the Milwaukee 4 1/2" angle grinders and chop saws, and keep them available. Brushes, switches, wires. As I said Milwaukee has a factory service shop here and I've used them several times as a result of exceeding duty cycles - until they advised me to keep them running in between so the armatures cool off. It's possible for China to make good stuff - if they have to build to American company standards. eg, Apple products are made there. If it's made to usual Chinese standards - well the bets are off. Power tools from Harbor Freight have failed for me on their FIRST use. They like to name them that implies American. "Chicago Electric" tools are mostly pure junk. With a few exceptions, but especially battery tools. I have a bench drill press, a floor drill press, and a dual grinder setup as a polisher, that have been reliable for 20 years. Oops I take that back, just checked, they aren't Chicago Electric but Central Machinery from HF, so Chicago Electric keeps the crap status. The 3 belt/disc sanders, wet bench grinder, and bandsaw are all CM and have kept running with minor repairs for 20m years - repairs being replaced switches on 2 of them. The CE multi-function machine, I've repaired repeatedly; now the drill press part is dead, wouldn't buy another. I don't ever buy Chicago Electric power tools anymore. HF sold me a Campbell Hausfeld compressor that soldiered on for 15 years. The pump finally failed because I let it run low on oil. That company isn't Chinese - says "Made in the USA" right on it - while the motors were assembled in Mexico, the first compressor motor is labelled Emerson Electric out of St Louis while the newer one is labelled Century out of Ohio. I replaced the compressor with a bigger C-H 2-stage 5hp 80 gal for $1,000, competitive compressors were around $1500, which works well. Replaced the pump on the first one with Chinese junk from HF then had to take it back. Replaced again with the original pump and it is standing by as my backup now. BTW, there was a scandal several years ago wherein compressor makers were exaggerating their hp ratings. However they couldn't lie about the UL rated kw power used on the motors which directly computes to hp. They were sued on the issue. My first compressor was claimed at 7hp but the power use is 2.98kw which equals 4.0hp. The new 2-stage claims 5hp but the 5.28kw computes to 7.08hp. I suspect the power rating is startup not continuous and they have obviously gone conservative on their claims after losing the lawsuit.
Most of my battery tools are DeWalt. Except 2 Milwaukee 18v FUEL tools, a hammer drill and an impact driver - really powerful, works great. As long as they are quality and don't let me down, I'll stick with them.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2020, 11:05:17 AM » |
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Enjoy, BTW I've been buying from HF since '81, the cheapest stuff back then was junk, pay a little bit more and good quality tools. most of the junk stuff has been gone for a long time. https://www.protoolreviews.com/news/power-tool-manufacturers-who-owns-them/43632/Every wonder who owns Craftsman tools? How about Milwaukee, Mac Tools, or Skilsaw? It may surprise you to know that only a handful of companies own your favorite power tool manufacturers. That’s right, most tool brands fall under a parent company which also controls additional brands. We break it down for you…with charts! https://advrider.com/f/threads/rate-your-harbor-freight-tool-experiences.752036/ |
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2020, 04:25:48 PM » |
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I received a set of assorted Horrible Fright "vise grips' for Christmas a couple years ago and I'll have to say that they work every bit as good as USA Vice Grips. The finish much better than the Wuhan Vice Grips.
Paul Harvey is turning over in his grave.
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