Indiana

[Wizzard]

This morning the State of Indiana reported that over the last week they sent out 4700 random corona tests around the state and the results showed 45% tested asymptomatic with no ill effects.
How they going to control that?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Kudos to Indiana for doing this testing. This is the kind of stuff the ENTIRE nation needs.

The way you worded it didn't make sense to me. The way I understand it 1.1% were determined to have the virus, 1.7% were determined to have had it in the past. For a total of 2.8% infection rate. Of that 2.8%, 45% were asymptotic.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/opinion/indiana-reopening-coronavirus-testing.html

[Wizzard]

you read it right. And they are doing another round in 2 weeks. I think they are going to continue it.My point is, given this information Rob, how does it change our lives?
I could go get tested today and tomorrow I may get it. Or I may have it and exhibit no symptoms, so then what? Go to quarantine prison? If that were the case I would be reluctant to get tested.

If this keeps holding true going forward how will that change things?

[The emperor has no clothes]

you read it right. And they are doing another round in 2 weeks. I think they are going to continue it.My point is, given this information Rob, how does it change our lives?
I could go get tested today and tomorrow I may get it. Or I may have it and exhibit no symptoms, so then what? Go to quarantine prison? If that were the case I would be reluctant to get tested.

If this keeps holding true going forward how will that change things?

I am certainly no expert in pandemics. So, this is just coming from a lay person. But, I think more testing could be helpful in a couple ways. 1) if a person tests as asymptomatic then they can self quarantine in order to not infect others unknowingly. 2) if a person tests as previously having the virus they can work, socialize without fear of contaminating others. 3) having more thorough, better info for the experts should always be a good thing. 14 days is not really much to give up to help your friends and family.

[f6john]

you read it right. And they are doing another round in 2 weeks. I think they are going to continue it.My point is, given this information Rob, how does it change our lives?
I could go get tested today and tomorrow I may get it. Or I may have it and exhibit no symptoms, so then what? Go to quarantine prison? If that were the case I would be reluctant to get tested.

If this keeps holding true going forward how will that change things?

I am certainly no expert in pandemics. So, this is just coming from a lay person. But, I think more testing could be helpful in a couple ways. 1) if a person tests as asymptomatic then they can self quarantine in order to not infect others unknowingly. 2) if a person tests as previously having the virus they can work, socialize without fear of contaminating others. 3) having more thorough, better info for the experts should always be a good thing. 14 days is not really much to give up to help your friends and family.

I thought the jury was still out on #2.

[Willow]

you read it right. And they are doing another round in 2 weeks. I think they are going to continue it.My point is, given this information Rob, how does it change our lives?
I could go get tested today and tomorrow I may get it. Or I may have it and exhibit no symptoms, so then what? Go to quarantine prison? If that were the case I would be reluctant to get tested.

If this keeps holding true going forward how will that change things?

I am certainly no expert in pandemics. So, this is just coming from a lay person. But, I think more testing could be helpful in a couple ways. 1) if a person tests as asymptomatic then they can self quarantine in order to not infect others unknowingly. 2) if a person tests as previously having the virus they can work, socialize without fear of contaminating others. 3) having more thorough, better info for the experts should always be a good thing. 14 days is not really much to give up to help your friends and family.

Regarding #2, if a person is immune that does not preclude his spreading the virus.  For example the immune person touches something that has been touched by an infected person picking up the virus on his hand.  He touches something or someone else that is then touched by a vulnerable person.  When that vulnerable person touches his nose he acquires the virus.

The virus does not have to be directly spread such as exchanging spit with a sick person.  It at some point is around us.  We being asked to jump through hoops to avoid something that is simply there and will spread.  Wash your hands.  Carry sanitizer with you.  Live your life.  With this virus you have a 1.4% chance of getting sick and a .042 chance of dying.  Live while you can.  Be clean.  Your time will come to die no matter how strongly you try to push it off.

[The emperor has no clothes]

you read it right. And they are doing another round in 2 weeks. I think they are going to continue it.My point is, given this information Rob, how does it change our lives?
I could go get tested today and tomorrow I may get it. Or I may have it and exhibit no symptoms, so then what? Go to quarantine prison? If that were the case I would be reluctant to get tested.

If this keeps holding true going forward how will that change things?

I am certainly no expert in pandemics. So, this is just coming from a lay person. But, I think more testing could be helpful in a couple ways. 1) if a person tests as asymptomatic then they can self quarantine in order to not infect others unknowingly. 2) if a person tests as previously having the virus they can work, socialize without fear of contaminating others. 3) having more thorough, better info for the experts should always be a good thing. 14 days is not really much to give up to help your friends and family.

Regarding #2, if a person is immune that does not preclude his spreading the virus.  For example the immune person touches something that has been touched by an infected person picking up the virus on his hand.  He touches something or someone else that is then touched by a vulnerable person.  When that vulnerable person touches his nose he acquires the virus.

The virus does not have to be directly spread such as exchanging spit with a sick person.  It at some point is around us.  We being asked to jump through hoops to avoid something that is simply there and will spread.  Wash your hands.  Carry sanitizer with you.  Live your life.  With this virus you have a 1.4% chance of getting sick and a .042 chance of dying.  Live while you can.  Be clean.  Your time will come to die no matter how strongly you try to push it off.

#2 is not foolproof for sure. Would you agree more testing helpful ?

[Detn8er]

you read it right. And they are doing another round in 2 weeks. I think they are going to continue it.My point is, given this information Rob, how does it change our lives?
I could go get tested today and tomorrow I may get it. Or I may have it and exhibit no symptoms, so then what? Go to quarantine prison? If that were the case I would be reluctant to get tested.

If this keeps holding true going forward how will that change things?

I am certainly no expert in pandemics. So, this is just coming from a lay person. But, I think more testing could be helpful in a couple ways. 1) if a person tests as asymptomatic then they can self quarantine in order to not infect others unknowingly. 2) if a person tests as previously having the virus they can work, socialize without fear of contaminating others. 3) having more thorough, better info for the experts should always be a good thing. 14 days is not really much to give up to help your friends and family.

Regarding #2, if a person is immune that does not preclude his spreading the virus.  For example the immune person touches something that has been touched by an infected person picking up the virus on his hand.  He touches something or someone else that is then touched by a vulnerable person.  When that vulnerable person touches his nose he acquires the virus.

The virus does not have to be directly spread such as exchanging spit with a sick person.  It at some point is around us.  We being asked to jump through hoops to avoid something that is simply there and will spread.  Wash your hands.  Carry sanitizer with you.  Live your life.  With this virus you have a 1.4% chance of getting sick and a .042 chance of dying.  Live while you can.  Be clean.  Your time will come to die no matter how strongly you try to push it off.

#2 is not foolproof for sure. Would you agree more testing helpful ?

Nope. We can spend several more billions to test every citizen or none citizen in the whole country.... It will not change or stop anything..... For example there are many ways to test for intelligence or the lack of it..... taking the test may find intelligence or it may find pure stupidity. It changes neither. 

[The emperor has no clothes]

Kind of a strange analogy.  ??? Intelligence (or lack of it) isn't communicable. Testing for a virus isn't meant to change it. It's meant to give information to use.

[f6john]

The example of an intelligence test or the lack thereof would certainly provide information to use, and would probably have a direct correlation to the administering of tests for Covid 19.

[Willow]

#2 is not foolproof for sure. Would you agree more testing helpful ?

It depends on what you want to get from the testing.  It would provide info on how many people are catching the virus if you do them in large random numbers.  Test me today and it may tell you I'm clear today but doesn't tell you a thing about me tomorrow.

I don't think testing will do anything to help "control" the virus.

[Wizzard]

you read it right. And they are doing another round in 2 weeks. I think they are going to continue it.My point is, given this information Rob, how does it change our lives?
I could go get tested today and tomorrow I may get it. Or I may have it and exhibit no symptoms, so then what? Go to quarantine prison? If that were the case I would be reluctant to get tested.

If this keeps holding true going forward how will that change things?

I am certainly no expert in pandemics. So, this is just coming from a lay person. But, I think more testing could be helpful in a couple ways. 1) if a person tests as asymptomatic then they can self quarantine in order to not infect others unknowingly. 2) if a person tests as previously having the virus they can work, socialize without fear of contaminating others. 3) having more thorough, better info for the experts should always be a good thing. 14 days is not really much to give up to help your friends and family.

How long can you be Asymptomatic?  Further, so you go get tested today, that does not mean you do not have it tomorrow? So you going to get tested every day?  Willow is right, if you are going to get this virus, you can prolong it but not stop it until a vaccine is developed.

[Gavin_Sons]

Several people i work with got sick early this year.  They went and got the ass antibody test and 5 out of the 6 tested positive for antibodies. So apparently they had it back in January and February.

[F6Dave]

I'm quite sure Indiana distributed the rapid antibody tests.  Those are inexpensive and quickly becoming widely available.  They're great for determining past infections, but not the best way to check if you're currently infectious, whether you have symptoms or not.

The rapid test comes in a kit and requires a small amount of blood, and is easily administered in a doctor's office.  About 10-15 minutes after applying the blood sample to the kit's cassette, 1 to 3 lines should appear.  One is a control line to make sure all is working.  Another line indicates the presence of Immunoglobulin M (IgM), which the body makes shortly after infection.  It usually peaks in a week or two and levels drop quickly as the person recovers.  A positive IgM test indicates a current infection.

The third line indicates the presence of Immunoglobulin G (IgG), which the body starts making as the patient recovers.  It peaks several weeks later but remains detectable for months or years.  A positive IgG but negative IgM indicates a past infection.  If both are positive the person could be somewhere in the recovery phase.  IgG antibodies give you some immunity from future infections.

To determine if a person is currently shedding the virus (infectious), a PCR (genetic) test needs to be run to determine the presence of the RNA of the virus (not the antibodies) in a person's mouth or nasal passages.  These are more expensive and must be processed in a lab, taking hours or even days to get accurate results.  They can't identify a past infection if the person has recovered.  Obviously they're usually run on those showing symptoms.