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« Reply #80 on: June 06, 2020, 03:57:13 AM »



I concluded large crowds of humans are NEVER a good place to be.  

Talk at my local bar tonight about the scheduled protest happening tomorrow, Saturday afternoon.

Organised by a local white, female, liberal, realtor.

Some are going in support with their families including children.

Why would you do that???

She’s a realtor, she thinks it will be good for her publicity, give her credibility...good for business.
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« Reply #81 on: June 06, 2020, 06:48:43 AM »

The problem is not lacking of resources for founding the police. It is bad training and lack of accountability in my personal view.



This is something that we can agree on.  cooldude


But:


Pointing the abuse of force by the State is totally different from supporting (civil) criminals.



I would say that the lack of people shot and killed by the police during this time, shows that they have exercised GREAT restraint nationwide.

Make no mistake ANTIFA is behind the unrest.

They may not have lit the fuse but they are certainly fueling the flames.

And they will NOT be satisfied until the police have been goaded into shooting protesters.

I hope that they fail to obtain their goal.


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« Reply #82 on: June 06, 2020, 06:52:16 AM »

This level of behavior is what shocked me.


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Girl is making her boyfriend in front of a smashed T Mobil

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But this is something we can ALL get behind

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« Reply #83 on: June 06, 2020, 07:16:15 AM »

Sorry the elderly man was injured but why was he approaching the officers? The one that pushed him with one hand I might add didnt grab him and throw him tothe ground also the man was reaching to his arm on the the video. #1 rule would be dont touch an officer especially on in riot gear.

Simple way to avoid injury:  don't be there.
Yes, I feel bad he got injured, but you put yourself in that situation, you have to assume something will happen. I read some of his posts online, he's kind of an asshole.


From the Buffalo Mayor:

"Byron Brown, the mayor of Buffalo, N.Y., said Friday the 75-year-old man who was shoved to the ground by two cops the previous day was an “agitator” who had been asked to leave the area “numerous” times."

Told you the old guy was a prick.
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« Reply #84 on: June 06, 2020, 07:39:54 AM »

Sorry the elderly man was injured but why was he approaching the officers? The one that pushed him with one hand I might add didnt grab him and throw him tothe ground also the man was reaching to his arm on the the video. #1 rule would be dont touch an officer especially on in riot gear.

Simple way to avoid injury:  don't be there.
Yes, I feel bad he got injured, but you put yourself in that situation, you have to assume something will happen. I read some of his posts online, he's kind of an asshole.


From the Buffalo Mayor:

"Byron Brown, the mayor of Buffalo, N.Y., said Friday the 75-year-old man who was shoved to the ground by two cops the previous day was an “agitator” who had been asked to leave the area “numerous” times."

Told you the old guy was a prick.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.



Without the benefit of audio it is nearly impossible to tell if the old man or the police was the aggressor.

What disturbs me is that once the old guy was on the ground, clearly unconscious and bleeding NOT a single officer rendered aid.

I can guarantee that if you or I accidentally knocked an old person to the ground and then just walked away.

We would be facing criminal charges.
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« Reply #85 on: June 06, 2020, 07:58:39 AM »

What disturbs me is that once the old guy was on the ground, clearly unconscious and bleeding NOT a single officer rendered aid.

Mr. Gugino was approaching officers who were clearing the area of people remaining post-curfew. Mr. Gugino had been told to leave the area multiple times, and instead of doing so chose to go towards the riot officers who were tasked with clearing the area.

("Brown" in the below quote is Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown)

"One of the officers appears to lean over and say something to the fallen Gugino before a fellow officer pulls him back and they marched past the injured senior citizen.

While Brown said he was troubled by the shove, he defended the officers walking away.

They're trained to stay in formation and allow medics, who are part of this squad, to swoop in and tend to the wounded, Brown said.

"It was seconds and within seconds, first aid was rendered to Mr. Gugino," Brown told MSNBC."

In other words, they weren't being callous, they were following their training, the front line moves forward to clear the area of folks breaking curfew, while the medics a few seconds behind come in and help anyone who needs it.

Source - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/buffalo-officers-shoving-75-year-old-ground-decried-governor-where-n1225776
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« Reply #86 on: June 06, 2020, 08:11:38 AM »

Deadly "knockout game": what it is and why teens are playing it

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/deadly-knockout-game-what-it-is/

Where were the protests for this?

Where was the help for the victims.
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« Reply #87 on: June 06, 2020, 09:07:40 AM »

What disturbs me is that once the old guy was on the ground, clearly unconscious and bleeding NOT a single officer rendered aid.

Mr. Gugino was approaching officers who were clearing the area of people remaining post-curfew. Mr. Gugino had been told to leave the area multiple times, and instead of doing so chose to go towards the riot officers who were tasked with clearing the area.

("Brown" in the below quote is Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown)

"One of the officers appears to lean over and say something to the fallen Gugino before a fellow officer pulls him back and they marched past the injured senior citizen.

While Brown said he was troubled by the shove, he defended the officers walking away.

They're trained to stay in formation and allow medics, who are part of this squad, to swoop in and tend to the wounded, Brown said.

"It was seconds and within seconds, first aid was rendered to Mr. Gugino," Brown told MSNBC."

In other words, they weren't being callous, they were following their training, the front line moves forward to clear the area of folks breaking curfew, while the medics a few seconds behind come in and help anyone who needs it.

Source - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/buffalo-officers-shoving-75-year-old-ground-decried-governor-where-n1225776

But he was a poor old grandpa.  Evil
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« Reply #88 on: June 06, 2020, 09:07:45 AM »

The left complaining about the left.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_and_government_of_Buffalo,_New_York

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« Reply #89 on: June 06, 2020, 10:37:57 AM »

When will some start to realize they are being HAD???

They're starting to, although this just means they wanna go to the left of the already radical leftist Democrats.... Extreme leftist race baiter white guy pretending to be a black guy Talcum-X (Shaun King) had this to day:

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« Reply #90 on: June 06, 2020, 11:23:44 AM »

What disturbs me is that once the old guy was on the ground, clearly unconscious and bleeding NOT a single officer rendered aid.

Mr. Gugino was approaching officers who were clearing the area of people remaining post-curfew. Mr. Gugino had been told to leave the area multiple times, and instead of doing so chose to go towards the riot officers who were tasked with clearing the area.

("Brown" in the below quote is Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown)

"One of the officers appears to lean over and say something to the fallen Gugino before a fellow officer pulls him back and they marched past the injured senior citizen.

While Brown said he was troubled by the shove, he defended the officers walking away.

They're trained to stay in formation and allow medics, who are part of this squad, to swoop in and tend to the wounded, Brown said.

"It was seconds and within seconds, first aid was rendered to Mr. Gugino," Brown told MSNBC."

In other words, they weren't being callous, they were following their training, the front line moves forward to clear the area of folks breaking curfew, while the medics a few seconds behind come in and help anyone who needs it.

Source - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/buffalo-officers-shoving-75-year-old-ground-decried-governor-where-n1225776


I still say that the Cops, "Screwed the Pooch" on this one.

I don't believe the officer intentionally harmed the old man, but to offer no help when it became obvious that the man was seriously injured presents an image that is extremely callous.

I understand that the officers were, "following" their training.

This could be a time when training that looks good on paper proves to be bad practice.


I have long been a critic of the Paramilitary style training of local police.

This along with lowered hiring standards since Sept 11th, 2001 have created the problems resulting in the civil unrest that we are seeing today.

These lowered standards especially psychological testing have resulted in many people becoming police officers that would've never been hired before 2001.

Another element is that fewer and fewer people are applying for jobs as police officers.

This has resulted in even further lowering of the standards.

Simply put, we have far too many people working as police officers that shouldn't be.



With that said, I do appreciate the job that most police officers do.

I understand that it is a dangerous and thankless job.

I give PROPS to the officers that have faced these recent protests.

I think the fact that there aren't stacks of the bodies of dead protesters lining the streets of America speaks volumes to the integrity of the police as a whole.   



However, there needs to be a strong critique of the training that police officers receive and that critique needs to result in some substantial and lasting changes for the better.

 
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« Reply #91 on: June 06, 2020, 02:38:52 PM »

The vast majority of LEOs are just trying to do a good job - as always, it's the few bad apples that cause the rest to look bad.
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« Reply #92 on: June 07, 2020, 07:43:18 AM »



We need national carry law and we need it now


X 1000 I carry every day. If I travel to a state that don’t recognize my permit F them. I still do.

When I leave the house, I carry.  But I don't carry in states that don't recognize my CCW.  Instead I boycott them and stay out.  Example, I drive around Illinois rather than through it if I'm going East of it.  To my mind, the legal consequences of USING my carry in Illinois et al, would be more severe than I want to deal with.  So the threat of the consequences would at least cause hesitation - perhaps fatal.  And I'm pretty sure my legal insurance would be void there so I would be on my own for legal defense.
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« Reply #93 on: June 08, 2020, 05:56:10 AM »

Your emotional response just failed big time, I wonder if this was a photo op and how many more there were. I wonder how much it will cost us the US taxpayer to have these photos.

City Pays Antifa Militant Who Praises Cop Killers for Taking Rubber Bullet During Violent Protest

Among the rioters was a 31-year-old Antifa leader named James Mathew Mattox who praises cop killers on social media. Mattox was dressed in black bloc and a mask during the event and carried a shield with an anarchist symbol. Mattox provoked officers when they tried to disperse rioters by flipping them off, waving his shield and arms in the air and yelling profanities. When an officer shot a rubber bullet, Mattox taunted him for missing his left thigh before a second rubber bullet hit him in the right arm. This caused a “large gash,” according to his federal court complaint which includes other Portland-area Antifa rioters as plaintiffs. Mattox and his radical pals allege their civil rights were violated and he claims he suffered sharp pain, insomnia and limitations in functioning and movement for weeks. He was unable to return to work for over a week due to the seriousness of his injuries, according to the lawsuit. “In addition to the financial costs of having his injuries treated and missing work, Mr. Mattox suffered from the physical and emotional pain of having been subjected to extreme police violence,” the complaint states. “Mr. Mattox experienced depression and the lasting effects of trauma from extreme police violence.”

This month the Portland City Council agreed to pay Mattox $23,000 to settle the case while taxpayers in the city of about 655,000 are being forced to give him money because elected officials will not stand up to him.

Judicial Watch has successfully gone after one of the movement’s most popular figures, a national organizer for a radical leftist group called By Any Means Necessary (BAMN) which was founded by the Marxist Revolutionary Workers League and uses raucous militant tactics to disrupt conservative speaking engagements. Among its prominent figures is a California public school teacher, Yvette Felarca, well known for her violent Antifa activism.

Joe Biden's staff donate to get dangerous ANARCHISTS out of jail.
And NOW, celebrities have joined in and are bailing out ANTIFA THUGS!

https://www.judicialwatch.org/corruption-chronicles/city-pays-antifa-militant-who-praises-cop-killers-for-taking-rubber-bullet-during-violent-protest/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=corruption_chronicles

I'm aghast of seeing this image. For snuggles sake, could be my daughter coming back from buying groceries.
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« Reply #94 on: June 08, 2020, 07:08:09 AM »

I ask myself what would Andy Griffith do  not Barnie fife

If we act like the people are our neighbors when we start, the finish is usually better

If it isnt the body cam tells the full story
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« Reply #95 on: June 08, 2020, 11:05:04 AM »

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2020/06/07/heres-what-you-didnt-know-about-that-heros-take-down-of-antifa-with-ar-15-at-seattle-riot-n503840
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« Reply #96 on: June 08, 2020, 12:01:26 PM »


That is one hell of a story. 

George Orwell famously said “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”   

True then, true forever. 
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« Reply #97 on: June 08, 2020, 12:11:44 PM »

What disturbs me is that once the old guy was on the ground, clearly unconscious and bleeding NOT a single officer rendered aid.

Mr. Gugino was approaching officers who were clearing the area of people remaining post-curfew. Mr. Gugino had been told to leave the area multiple times, and instead of doing so chose to go towards the riot officers who were tasked with clearing the area.

("Brown" in the below quote is Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown)

"One of the officers appears to lean over and say something to the fallen Gugino before a fellow officer pulls him back and they marched past the injured senior citizen.

While Brown said he was troubled by the shove, he defended the officers walking away.

They're trained to stay in formation and allow medics, who are part of this squad, to swoop in and tend to the wounded, Brown said.

"It was seconds and within seconds, first aid was rendered to Mr. Gugino," Brown told MSNBC."

In other words, they weren't being callous, they were following their training, the front line moves forward to clear the area of folks breaking curfew, while the medics a few seconds behind come in and help anyone who needs it.

Source - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/buffalo-officers-shoving-75-year-old-ground-decried-governor-where-n1225776


I still say that the Cops, "Screwed the Pooch" on this one.

I don't believe the officer intentionally harmed the old man, but to offer no help when it became obvious that the man was seriously injured presents an image that is extremely callous.

I understand that the officers were, "following" their training.

This could be a time when training that looks good on paper proves to be bad practice.


I have long been a critic of the Paramilitary style training of local police.

This along with lowered hiring standards since Sept 11th, 2001 have created the problems resulting in the civil unrest that we are seeing today.

These lowered standards especially psychological testing have resulted in many people becoming police officers that would've never been hired before 2001.

Another element is that fewer and fewer people are applying for jobs as police officers.

This has resulted in even further lowering of the standards.

Simply put, we have far too many people working as police officers that shouldn't be.



With that said, I do appreciate the job that most police officers do.

I understand that it is a dangerous and thankless job.

I give PROPS to the officers that have faced these recent protests.

I think the fact that there aren't stacks of the bodies of dead protesters lining the streets of America speaks volumes to the integrity of the police as a whole.   



However, there needs to be a strong critique of the training that police officers receive and that critique needs to result in some substantial and lasting changes for the better.

 

That whole thing with the old guy falling down and bleeding was fake.  Fake blood, staged...that's why the cops just kept walking om by because they could tell it was fake.
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« Reply #98 on: June 08, 2020, 12:30:31 PM »



That whole thing with the old guy falling down and bleeding was fake.  Fake blood, staged...that's why the cops just kept walking om by because they could tell it was fake.

Really?
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« Reply #99 on: June 08, 2020, 01:00:44 PM »


That whole thing with the old guy falling down and bleeding was fake.  Fake blood, staged...that's why the cops just kept walking om by because they could tell it was fake.

I dont think the blood was fake but a man that cannot stand on his own two feet gets pushed not hard and falls, how did he get there in the first place, he cannot even walk he shuffles and then puts his hands on both officers by their guns, really, I mean really?

Staged events and false flags are the staple of communisim to rile the people.
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« Reply #100 on: June 08, 2020, 01:26:31 PM »


That whole thing with the old guy falling down and bleeding was fake.  Fake blood, staged...that's why the cops just kept walking om by because they could tell it was fake.

I dont think the blood was fake but a man that cannot stand on his own two feet gets pushed not hard and falls, how did he get there in the first place, he cannot even walk he shuffles and then puts his hands on both officers by their guns, really, I mean really?

Staged events and false flags are the staple of communisim to rile the people.

No one bleeds that quickly and that much out their ear from a fall. There was a close up view showing the tubing under his shirt. Totally a set up
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« Reply #101 on: June 08, 2020, 01:59:57 PM »


That whole thing with the old guy falling down and bleeding was fake.  Fake blood, staged...that's why the cops just kept walking om by because they could tell it was fake.

I dont think the blood was fake but a man that cannot stand on his own two feet gets pushed not hard and falls, how did he get there in the first place, he cannot even walk he shuffles and then puts his hands on both officers by their guns, really, I mean really?

Staged events and false flags are the staple of communisim to rile the people.

No one bleeds that quickly and that much out their ear from a fall. There was a close up view showing the tubing under his shirt. Totally a set up

But he was a poor old grandpa. More like a stupid old grandpa.
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« Reply #102 on: June 08, 2020, 02:53:47 PM »



That whole thing with the old guy falling down and bleeding was fake.  Fake blood, staged...that's why the cops just kept walking om by because they could tell it was fake.

Really?

The truth is over 90% of the people who show up in all the protests in the US are literally paid protesters hired by Leftist political companies such as Crowds on Demand and a handful of others via Craig’s List, or other on-line advertising sites such as Google, and even local newspapers.

Adam Swart, founder and CEO of COD is literally responsible for most of the organization of individuals gathered for each BLM and ANTIFA riot in the US since his firm does most of the advertising for recruiting rioters and is the company who pays most of them anywhere from $15.00 to $75.00 per hour to take part in nationwide protests.

Of course, George Soros funds these organizations as well as BLM and ANTIFA, and Barack H Obama is responsible for originally organizing BLM and ANTIFA.

https://www.tulsatoday.com/2017/08/30/blm-antifa-rioters-are-paid-professionals/
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« Reply #103 on: June 08, 2020, 03:19:50 PM »



That whole thing with the old guy falling down and bleeding was fake.  Fake blood, staged...that's why the cops just kept walking om by because they could tell it was fake.

Really?

The truth is over 90% of the people who show up in all the protests in the US are literally paid protesters hired by Leftist political companies such as Crowds on Demand and a handful of others via Craig’s List, or other on-line advertising sites such as Google, and even local newspapers.

Adam Swart, founder and CEO of COD is literally responsible for most of the organization of individuals gathered for each BLM and ANTIFA riot in the US since his firm does most of the advertising for recruiting rioters and is the company who pays most of them anywhere from $15.00 to $75.00 per hour to take part in nationwide protests.

Of course, George Soros funds these organizations as well as BLM and ANTIFA, and Barack H Obama is responsible for originally organizing BLM and ANTIFA.

https://www.tulsatoday.com/2017/08/30/blm-antifa-rioters-are-paid-professionals/

https://theduran.com/anti-trump-protesters-paid-staged-craigslist-reveals/
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« Reply #104 on: June 08, 2020, 05:10:58 PM »

Some truth comes out.

A frail man an activist with medical conditions that has been arrested 4 times in protests and is 75 goes from Amhurst Mass. to Buffalo with a helmet and phone does not obey the curfew,sits on the steps and stands up as officers come and confronts them, then refuses officers orders to leave an area that officers are worried for their own welfare, reaches for the officers belt, gets pushed and cannot steady himself, falls, then lays on the ground,  for a photo op and all the bleeding hearts come out and scream. 

I have no compassion for this man at all, anyone who is a liar or manipulator pushes propaganda and gets this got what was coming to him. My regret is the officers were held out to dry with no support.


Amhurst resident a very left leaning town was arrested at protests before.

75-year-old man pushed by Buffalo police is long-time activist
“No black person would have done what he did last night"


https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/75-year-old-man-pushed-by-buffalo-police-is-long-time-activist

Antonio Wells says he watched as long-time activist Martin Gugino was pushed to the ground by Buffalo police following a peaceful protest in Niagara Square Thursday.

Wells was recording on his phone in front of City Hall Thursday night. Wells was one of the few protesters who stayed after a peaceful protest and initially defied the 8 p.m. curfew and police orders to leave.

“He got up off the steps, walked up to them and said 'no — I’m not going to move' and that's when the police said 'push him, push him' and then they pushed him to the ground,” recalled Wells.

Gugino is also a long-time member of PUSH Buffalo. PUSH issued a statement saying in part they were shocked to hear about his serious injuries and called Gugino a quote, "tireless fighter against injustice"

“He’s a gentle person who really believes that he must stand up for what he thinks is right,” said Gugino’s pal Terrence Bisson. “That’s why he went to the demonstration. He would never resist physically any kind of orders. He’s a bit frail, not because of his age. He has some health problems.”

Good news the police officers were offered jobs in Florida.

He has also protested for Gitmo to close down, but where would we put HRC and the rest?
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« Reply #105 on: June 09, 2020, 02:26:34 AM »

Wow, the bullshit is really flying around here today. Carefully wrapped in tinfoil.

A Google search for 'buffalo activist fake' has two hits, both from batshit crazy conspiracy sites.
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« Reply #106 on: June 09, 2020, 02:27:32 AM »



That whole thing with the old guy falling down and bleeding was fake.  Fake blood, staged...that's why the cops just kept walking om by because they could tell it was fake.

Really?

The truth is over 90% of the people who show up in all the protests in the US are literally paid protesters hired by Leftist political companies such as Crowds on Demand and a handful of others via Craig’s List, or other on-line advertising sites such as Google, and even local newspapers.

Adam Swart, founder and CEO of COD is literally responsible for most of the organization of individuals gathered for each BLM and ANTIFA riot in the US since his firm does most of the advertising for recruiting rioters and is the company who pays most of them anywhere from $15.00 to $75.00 per hour to take part in nationwide protests.

Of course, George Soros funds these organizations as well as BLM and ANTIFA, and Barack H Obama is responsible for originally organizing BLM and ANTIFA.

https://www.tulsatoday.com/2017/08/30/blm-antifa-rioters-are-paid-professionals/

Of course, you have proof of this?

That rascal Soros is at it again......
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« Reply #107 on: June 09, 2020, 04:49:53 AM »

Only so long you will be able to claim ignorance of the facts. What is going to happen in the day when all you are told you cannot shuffle under the carpet?


George Soros's secret 2016 access to State exposes 'big money' hypocrisy of Democrats

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/456619-george-soross-secret-2016-access-to-state-exposes-big-money-hypocrisy-of-democrats

Soros is arguably one of the largest, most influential donors of his generation, giving away as much as $1 billion a year to nonprofit and political causes and leaving an indelible imprint on policy positions of liberals worldwide. His reach and influence range from two dozen prosecutors he helped to elect in the United States, to fellows he helped train at the State Department, to global media institutions that he supports to the tune of $26 million annually.

Federal election records show Soros was one of the top 10 donors to Clinton’s 2016 election effort, giving a whopping $10.6 million to her campaign and the super PACs supporting it.

Alan Dershowitz
"I have some information as well about the Obama administration — which will be disclosed in a lawsuit at some point, but I'm not prepared to disclose it now — about how President Obama personally asked the FBI to investigate somebody on behalf of George Soros, who was a close ally of his."


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« Reply #108 on: June 09, 2020, 05:13:00 AM »

locally the protestors, so called peaceful,  were blocking the beltline in Madison WI traffic  3 lanes each direction I believe.  Now that takes some balls to block super fast crazy idiots driving 70 mph in a 55 since  although not LA or NY or Atlanta being more lanes, more traffic,  that is dangerous and stupid. 

I cannot believe the Madison police did not arrest every single one of them since downtown Madison on state street where no cars are allowed is fine down by the Capitol, but rush hour traffic in the busiest 3 lane traffic within 100 miles of me is insane.   You might as well put them idiots blocking traffic on the Interstate?   uglystupid2

In my smaller towns nearby, drove thru a few streets seeing about 10-15 people standing alongside a road holding signs up is all saying stuff like black lives matter or I cant breath.   Just took a glimpse of them not like they were doing anything illegal nor too many folks paying attention to them anyways.
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« Reply #109 on: June 09, 2020, 06:46:15 AM »

locally the protestors, so called peaceful,  were blocking the beltline in Madison WI traffic  3 lanes each direction I believe.  Now that takes some balls to block super fast crazy idiots driving 70 mph in a 55 since  although not LA or NY or Atlanta being more lanes, more traffic,  that is dangerous and stupid. 

I cannot believe the Madison police did not arrest every single one of them since downtown Madison on state street where no cars are allowed is fine down by the Capitol, but rush hour traffic in the busiest 3 lane traffic within 100 miles of me is insane.   You might as well put them idiots blocking traffic on the Interstate?   uglystupid2

In my smaller towns nearby, drove thru a few streets seeing about 10-15 people standing alongside a road holding signs up is all saying stuff like black lives matter or I cant breath.   Just took a glimpse of them not like they were doing anything illegal nor too many folks paying attention to them anyways.

hijacking federal hwys is a terrorist act like hijackers of planes, which where all political acts. so is blowing up hwys/roads next?  these hwy hijackers are terrorist and should be treated as such under current homeland security laws for one thing.
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« Reply #110 on: June 09, 2020, 08:32:50 AM »

Only so long you will be able to claim ignorance of the facts. What is going to happen in the day when all you are told you cannot shuffle under the carpet?


George Soros's secret 2016 access to State exposes 'big money' hypocrisy of Democrats

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/456619-george-soross-secret-2016-access-to-state-exposes-big-money-hypocrisy-of-democrats

Soros is arguably one of the largest, most influential donors of his generation, giving away as much as $1 billion a year to nonprofit and political causes and leaving an indelible imprint on policy positions of liberals worldwide. His reach and influence range from two dozen prosecutors he helped to elect in the United States, to fellows he helped train at the State Department, to global media institutions that he supports to the tune of $26 million annually.

Federal election records show Soros was one of the top 10 donors to Clinton’s 2016 election effort, giving a whopping $10.6 million to her campaign and the super PACs supporting it.

Alan Dershowitz
"I have some information as well about the Obama administration — which will be disclosed in a lawsuit at some point, but I'm not prepared to disclose it now — about how President Obama personally asked the FBI to investigate somebody on behalf of George Soros, who was a close ally of his."




--- You mention "ignorant of the facts". Haven't seen any, not sure which ones you mean.

--- Your link is to an opinion piece. About some 'secret access' enjoyed by Soros. I guess it's not so secret anymore?

--- Your graphic doesn't list any organizations named Protestors-for-Pay, or anything like that. Did I miss it?

--- And the mention of Dershowitz with some bombshell evidence about Obama's administration, that he's choosing not to disclose quite yet, but will be in some lawsuit to be named later. Something that will nail Obama to the wall, I suspect.

I wonder if he's using the same investigators that were digging up all that dirt in Hawaii way back when. We haven't heard from them in awhile. Do you know if anyone went looking for THEM?

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« Reply #111 on: June 09, 2020, 09:47:27 AM »

Only so long you will be able to claim ignorance of the facts. What is going to happen in the day when all you are told you cannot shuffle under the carpet?


George Soros's secret 2016 access to State exposes 'big money' hypocrisy of Democrats

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/456619-george-soross-secret-2016-access-to-state-exposes-big-money-hypocrisy-of-democrats

Soros is arguably one of the largest, most influential donors of his generation, giving away as much as $1 billion a year to nonprofit and political causes and leaving an indelible imprint on policy positions of liberals worldwide. His reach and influence range from two dozen prosecutors he helped to elect in the United States, to fellows he helped train at the State Department, to global media institutions that he supports to the tune of $26 million annually.

Federal election records show Soros was one of the top 10 donors to Clinton’s 2016 election effort, giving a whopping $10.6 million to her campaign and the super PACs supporting it.

Alan Dershowitz
"I have some information as well about the Obama administration — which will be disclosed in a lawsuit at some point, but I'm not prepared to disclose it now — about how President Obama personally asked the FBI to investigate somebody on behalf of George Soros, who was a close ally of his."




--- You mention "ignorant of the facts". Haven't seen any, not sure which ones you mean.

--- Your link is to an opinion piece. About some 'secret access' enjoyed by Soros. I guess it's not so secret anymore?

--- Your graphic doesn't list any organizations named Protestors-for-Pay, or anything like that. Did I miss it?

--- And the mention of Dershowitz with some bombshell evidence about Obama's administration, that he's choosing not to disclose quite yet, but will be in some lawsuit to be named later. Something that will nail Obama to the wall, I suspect.

I wonder if he's using the same investigators that were digging up all that dirt in Hawaii way back when. We haven't heard from them in awhile. Do you know if anyone went looking for THEM?




You almost always respond to batshit crazy posts that have no factual basis and usually respond with tinfoil remarks, but I’d really like to know what you think is really going on, seriously.
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« Reply #112 on: June 09, 2020, 02:26:47 PM »

Meanwhile, in Cayce, SC

Cayce DPS opens investigation after Riverwalk vandalized

A citizen called Cayce DPS stating there were two females with young children in strollers vandalizing the property with paint. An officer saw the two women with strollers leaving the West Columbia Park around just a few minutes after receiving the call. The officer noticed both women had paint on their clothes and on their bodies.
The officer asked the women for identification, but the women said they did not have identification and tried to leave the area. Officials said the women were “uncooperative and verbally aggressive” and told the officers they “are going down.”


https://www.wistv.com/2020/06/09/cayce-dps-opens-investigation-after-riverwalk-vandalized/
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« Reply #113 on: June 09, 2020, 04:23:23 PM »

This is the guy we all are loosing sleep over. fentanyl and had methamphetamine in his system could have caused the heart attack and from being retrained.

George Floyd’s profile as per court documents reads like a career criminal involved in drug abuse, theft, criminal trespassing, aggravated robbery

  as well as entering a pregnant woman’s home and pointing a gun at her stomach while looking for drugs and money.

The official autopsy found Floyd died of cardiac arrest caused by being restrained. However, at the time of his death, he was under the influence of fentanyl and had methamphetamine in his system. A second autopsy, commissioned by Floyd’s family, found that the “evidence is consistent with mechanical asphyxia as the cause” of death, with neck compression restricting blood flow to the brain, and back compression restricting breathing. The cause of his death is still disputed.

https://greatgameindia.com/george-floyd-criminal/



    George Floyd moved to Minneapolis in 2014 after being released from prison in Houston, Texas following an arrest for aggravated robbery
    On May 25, 2020, Floyd was arrested for passing a counterfeit $20 bill at a grocery store in Minneapolis
    He was under the influence of fentanyl and methamphetamine at the time of arrest
    Floyd has more than a decade-old criminal history at the time of the arrest and went to jail for atleast 5 times
    George Floyd was the ringleader of a violent home invasion
    He plead guilty to entering a pregnant woman’s home, pointing a gun at her stomach and searching the home for drugs and money, according to court records
    Floyd was sentenced to 10 months in state jail for possession of cocaine in a December 2005 arrest
    He had previously been sentenced to eight months for the same offense, stemming from an October 2002 arrest
    Floyd was arrested in 2002 for criminal trespassing and served 30 days in jail
    He had another stint for a theft in August 1998

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« Reply #114 on: June 09, 2020, 04:36:04 PM »

I should start with the attorney General of the US William Barr is investigating Soros. In fact the FBI is investigating him also. I  cannot wait till they link the financing of these riots to him through one or many of his organizations. If you listen you will hear Barr mentioning a federal crime since its across state boarders, I wonder who he was thinking of.


Jerusalem Post
Our World: Soros’s campaign of global chaos

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Our-World-Soross-campaign-of-global-chaos-464770

Black Lives Matter, which has received $650,000 from Soros-controlled groups over the past year, is a classic example of these efforts. Until recently, the police were universally admired in the US as the domestic equivalent of the military. BLM emerged as a social force bent on politicizing support for police.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/connoisseur-chaos-14954.html

A few cases in point: last August, DC Leaks, a group of adroit hackers, got into the Soros files and released them. Perhaps the most notorious of the disclosures concerned Soros’s Open Society Foundations, named in honor of Sir Karl Popper. Underneath its lofty rhetoric, the organization was clearly devoted to the eradication of national sovereignty. A key Open Society paper, hacked in its entirety, described the Syrian refugee crisis as an opportunity to “shape conversations about rethinking migrations governance.” Translation: use agitprop to flood Europe and the U.S. with evacuees (among them some probable terrorists); make the old borders and institutions irrelevant; and, in the process, create a world liberated from the restraints of constitutionalism, American exceptionalism, free-market capitalism, and other obsolete isms.


Now came the fulcrum of Soros’s life and career. The bureaucrat who housed teenage György was assigned the task of confiscating Jewish land and property. With the boy in tow, he went from house to house, making inventories for Nazi officers. It’s unfair sweepingly to condemn those individuals, Jewish and Gentile, who, willingly or unwillingly, sometimes participated in evil in order to survive. Still, most of those who did escape the Holocaust were tormented by pangs of remorse and survivor’s guilt.

Not Soros. In 1998, 60 Minutes profiled the man whose stock-market manipulations were making news. CBS interviewer Steve Kroft asked him about his wartime experiences:

    KROFT: You watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

    SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made.


Antifa demonstrators chant: "George Soros - where's my money?"
https://www.facebook.com/DroppingTruthBombs/videos/2186564714922016/


Soros, who plans to spend at least $15 million in 2018 races, has already faced some setbacks this cycle. His bid to replace several district attorneys in California with challengers seeking changes to the criminal justice system was largely unsuccessful in Tuesday’s elections. “We ran into a brick wall in California,” he said.

Last week, Putin suggested that Soros’s spending around the world resembles the kind of political interference that U.S. intelligence officials blame on Russia.

“He intervenes in things all over the world,” Putin told Austrian television. “But the State Department will tell you that it has nothing to do with that, that this is the personal business of Mr. Soros.”


This cycle, Soros has focused his political investments on congressional races and mobilizing voters on the left. His largest donation this year has been $5 million to Win Justice, a voter-mobilization group focused on minorities, women and young voters in Florida, Michigan and Nevada.

He has also continued to invest in district attorney races, saying prosecutors are “the linchpin of the judicial system” and key to his effort to reduce prison sentences. He sent $1.45 million to a group that supported civil rights attorney Larry Krasner in his successful race for Philadelphia district attorney last year. A spokesman said Krasner had never met Soros or anyone in his organization.

Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert, who defeated her challenger Tuesday, claimed that the city was “under attack” from the billionaire, “who has brought his war against law enforcement” to Sacramento.


Attorney Barr targets Soros funded Antifa as domestic terrorists

https://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/attorney-barr-targets-soros-funded-antifa-as-domestic-terrorists-129788/

WASHINGTON, DC: President Trump has designated Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization. William Barr has announced that the organized rioting and looting nationwide is “domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly”. The connection between Antifa and George Soros and the Open Society Foundations is being made.

https://youtu.be/RaWrHPBdqXE

HUGE Soros find: Docs show Soros operation and State Dept working hand in glove (with your tax dollars). @JudicialWatch
 does the heavy lifting in court to get answers...https://judicialwatch.org/press-room/pre
https://twitter.com/i/status/1049333485742313472

Open Borders Inc.: Who's Funding America's Destruction?
By Michelle Malkin

https://books.google.com/books?id=D3mHDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT52&lpg=PT52&dq=george+soros+all+my+plans+have+failed+since+trump+came+into+office&source=bl&ots=HuJdVrDd1g&sig=ACfU3U0u-C7kFsOyHoXOZVE3bUdV0FKd9w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiBk-Gbh_bpAhWQQjABHZBICtIQ6AEwAnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=george%20soros%20all%20my%20plans%20have%20failed%20since%20trump%20came%20into%20office&f=false
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« Reply #115 on: June 09, 2020, 04:51:09 PM »

This is the guy we all are loosing sleep over. fentanyl and had methamphetamine in his system could have caused the heart attack and from being retrained.

George Floyd’s profile as per court documents reads like a career criminal involved in drug abuse, theft, criminal trespassing, aggravated robbery as well as entering a pregnant woman’s home and pointing a gun at her stomach while looking for drugs and money.

The official autopsy found Floyd died of cardiac arrest caused by being restrained. However, at the time of his death, he was under the influence of fentanyl and had methamphetamine in his system. A second autopsy, commissioned by Floyd’s family, found that the “evidence is consistent with mechanical asphyxia as the cause” of death, with neck compression restricting blood flow to the brain, and back compression restricting breathing. The cause of his death is still disputed.

https://greatgameindia.com/george-floyd-criminal/



    George Floyd moved to Minneapolis in 2014 after being released from prison in Houston, Texas following an arrest for aggravated robbery
    On May 25, 2020, Floyd was arrested for passing a counterfeit $20 bill at a grocery store in Minneapolis
    He was under the influence of fentanyl and methamphetamine at the time of arrest
    Floyd has more than a decade-old criminal history at the time of the arrest and went to jail for atleast 5 times
    George Floyd was the ringleader of a violent home invasion
    He plead guilty to entering a pregnant woman’s home, pointing a gun at her stomach and searching the home for drugs and money, according to court records
    Floyd was sentenced to 10 months in state jail for possession of cocaine in a December 2005 arrest
    He had previously been sentenced to eight months for the same offense, stemming from an October 2002 arrest
    Floyd was arrested in 2002 for criminal trespassing and served 30 days in jail
    He had another stint for a theft in August 1998



thanks R.

"and back compression restricting breathing"   so clearly their report is skewed since nobody was on his back except when he was being cuffed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/fentanyl-death-opioid-drugs-high-extreme-naloxone-1.4243787

But on the street, fentanyl is often mixed with other drugs, and the buyer may not be aware of what they are getting.

According to Bishop, taking fentanyl to get high, or taking drugs containing fentanyl, is like playing Russian roulette. It's a gamble that could end your life.
The last breath you take

Here is how fentanyl kills you: When it binds to the endorphin-releasing receptors, it can mess them up.

Because of that, your body cannot respond to low levels of oxygen or high levels of carbon dioxide.

Those are the two things that tell your brain — which controls your lungs — that you need to breathe. If the opioid is bound to those receptors, it cannot tell if the oxygen is low, or the carbon dioxide is too high and you eventually stop breathing and die.


neighbors son 28yrs old died two yrs ago from fentanyl lanced pot. knew him since he was 8-10 yrs old.
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« Reply #116 on: June 09, 2020, 05:18:42 PM »


neighbors son 28yrs old died two yrs ago from fentanyl lanced pot. knew him since he was 8-10 yrs old.

I am sorry, the hurt never really seems to go away just get a bit less painful.

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« Reply #117 on: June 10, 2020, 04:59:56 AM »

Well this is shocking and never in my life I would think that we are witnessing the creation of a 3rd world country here in the US.


‘Now Leaving The USA’: Militant Protesters In Seattle Have Set Up Barricades And Created The ‘Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone’

Seattle @MayorJenny is allowing a dangerous situation to fester. #Antifa militants have taken over & created an “autonomous zone” in city w/their own rules. Police precinct abandoned. Antifa set up barricades to create a border. Calling for volunteers to provide armed guard.
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« Reply #118 on: June 10, 2020, 07:29:44 AM »

Well this is shocking and never in my life I would think that we are witnessing the creation of a 3rd world country here in the US.


‘Now Leaving The USA’: Militant Protesters In Seattle Have Set Up Barricades And Created The ‘Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone’

Seattle @MayorJenny is allowing a dangerous situation to fester. #Antifa militants have taken over & created an “autonomous zone” in city w/their own rules. Police precinct abandoned. Antifa set up barricades to create a border. Calling for volunteers to provide armed guard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Autonomous_Zone
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« Reply #119 on: June 10, 2020, 08:11:25 AM »

More here

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/06/09/antifa-militants-seize-seattle-police-hq-set-up-autonomous-zone-n512621
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