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Nascar says it will no longer be allowed at any of its events. It seems Bubba Wallace, Nascars only black driver currently called for the action while he runs a car with a black lives matters paint scheme.
Time marches on and the double standards just keep increasing. I’m not a supporter of the Confederate flag to induce conflict among people but at the same time it is an expression of free speech that I do support.
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2020, 05:55:54 AM » |
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I think for once we need to take a lesson from the Brits. London Police Warn Of "Perfect Storm" As Right Wing Groups Vow To Defend Statues From BLM London Metropolitan police are preparing for clashes between black lives matter activists and right wing groups this weekend in London, following a call by Tommy Robinson for counter-protests to defend memorials and statues. https://twitter.com/i/status/1269752312098152449Neil Hamilton MS/AS @NeilUKIP If the media won’t spread these videos, we will. Anti-British thugs spitting on the memory of veterans that sacrificed themselves for our country. A day after D-Day. This has nothing to do with racism or police brutality, how long will our weak Government tolerate it? |
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f6john
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2020, 06:23:44 AM » |
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2020, 06:25:36 AM » |
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In this country, ignorance abounds. The flag they banned is not the Confederate flag. It never flew over the Confederate States of America. That banned flag is the battle flag of the Army of Tennessee during the war of northern aggression. The one below is the flag that flew over slavery and was displayed on ships trading in slavery in Africa for around 90 yrs. Soon to be retired.  |
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2020, 07:13:47 AM » |
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Nascar says it will no longer be allowed at any of its events. It seems Bubba Wallace, Nascars only black driver currently called for the action while he runs a car with a black lives matters paint scheme.
Time marches on and the double standards just keep increasing. I’m not a supporter of the Confederate flag to induce conflict among people but at the same time it is an expression of free speech that I do support.
Well it’s private property, they can make any rule they want. NASCAR seems to be a dying a slow death anyway, nothing what it was in the ‘80’s, ‘90’s early 2000’s. Personally, I have no deep thoughts on the flag or the subject, the flag never bothered me and I never read anything nefarious into it. I lost real interest in NASCAR over 15 years ago, was once a diehard fan, attended at least 2-3 races a year and watched almost every race for I don’t remember how long. |
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2020, 07:35:13 AM » |
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Banning of any flag doesn't bother me either, but all of a sudden they claim to avoid controversy and choosing to promote hate by supporting BLM, a controversial Marxist organization.
If you support taking over ownership of your property, guaranteed income for all, factories and jobs solely run by government, and higher taxes to pay rent for people you don't know, then support nascar and their sponsors.
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2020, 07:50:15 AM » |
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Just another nail in the coffin of Nascar. I quit going years ago when the $49 dollar motels started charging $250 when Nascar was in town $6 bottle water $7 slice of pizza. Everything they do just slowly kills them.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2020, 08:10:39 AM » |
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A quick perusal on the internet showed multiple places selling Confederate Flags. While it showed amazon having Confederate Flags they did Not have them and I had quickly scanned 2 or 3 pages. But as I stated the C F Are available from other vendors. I personally intend to order a Good Outdoor Confederate Flag. And mount it to the front of my Casa during daylight hours. My silent form of protest and I have NO/NONE/NADA plans to loot and burn nor kill anyone. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2020, 08:34:52 AM » |
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I love auto racing but I'm not a big NASCAR fan. The endless wrecks and caution periods really detract from the racing. But I give them a lot of credit for putting on live races during the near-peak C19 times. No other major sport pulled off what they did.
It seems like NASCAR has usually steered clear of political issues. Maybe they thought taking a stand on this issue would buy them protection from the far left on other other issues. I think they're going to be surprised.
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2020, 08:36:57 AM » |
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No matter how "woke" you are, how much pandering and virtue signaling, it's never enough. It, by design, can never be enough.  |
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it's never enough.
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2020, 09:49:15 AM » |
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And also allowing this during the anthem too..... How far NASCAR has fallen... Private business, their choice to run it how they see fit...  |
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2020, 10:37:16 AM » |
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And also allowing this during the anthem too..... How far NASCAR has fallen... Private business, their choice to run it how they see fit... One driver and the rest follow like sheep. No more NASCAR,HBO or NFL for us. |
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2020, 10:55:22 AM » |
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A quick perusal on the internet showed multiple places selling Confederate Flags. While it showed amazon having Confederate Flags they did Not have them and I had quickly scanned 2 or 3 pages. But as I stated the C F Are available from other vendors. I personally intend to order a Good Outdoor Confederate Flag. And mount it to the front of my Casa during daylight hours. My silent form of protest and I have NO/NONE/NADA plans to loot and burn nor kill anyone. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2020, 12:49:10 PM » |
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I couldn't help but notice that NASCAR is allowing a BLM car.....a declared terrorist organization-yes, a 150 year old symbol from Georgia-No..........  |
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2020, 01:40:05 PM » |
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And also allowing this during the anthem too..... How far NASCAR has fallen... Private business, their choice to run it how they see fit... Some words from a Georgia State Trooper, short, sweet and to the point. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jr-JfVj0ZF8 |
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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2020, 02:10:24 PM » |
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Still proud descendant of confederate soldiers they will never make me ashamed. Nascar can kiss it I bope they go broke,they deserve it for this move. Are you seeing the pattern they hate anything to do with white culture all of it this is just the start.
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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2020, 03:08:42 PM » |
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My ears are old. I couldn't discern at all what the Georgia State Trooper was saying. What did he express? What was the context? |
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2020, 03:31:06 PM » |
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My ears are old. I couldn't discern at all what the Georgia State Trooper was saying. What did he express? What was the context? The "protesters" were demanding he kneel to them, and he said "I only kneel to one person, and that's God" (Paraphrased) |
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2020, 03:48:58 PM » |
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No matter how "woke" you are, how much pandering and virtue signaling, it's never enough. It, by design, can never be enough. +1 |
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« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2020, 03:58:35 AM » |
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I never thought, or even considered, seeing # 43 on a Chevrolet let alone having BLM painted all over it. Even NASCAR is getting caught up in this and I'm surprised Richard is.
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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2020, 04:21:42 AM » |
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I have ancestors that fought under that flag during The War Of Northern Aggression. It's my heritage I will not kneel to no one until judgement day then every knee will kneel . Romans 14:11  |
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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2020, 05:04:10 AM » |
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no NASCAR, no NFL American has ended as we know it....  Personally fine with me can live without both of them. IF enough of us ban seeing both in person and on TV and spend nothing on both, see where they end up - GONE for good!  then see where all those black lives matter go once the NFL is gone? |
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f6john
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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2020, 06:21:11 AM » |
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I never thought, or even considered, seeing # 43 on a Chevrolet let alone having BLM painted all over it. Even NASCAR is getting caught up in this and I'm surprised Richard is.
Well with only Ford, Chevy and Toyota in the series, I’m happy to see 43 on a Chevy. As far as the Petty family is concerned, I’m sure their sponsors had something to do with the BLM paint scheme. And to your original point, what happened to Petty Blue? |
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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2020, 07:06:36 AM » |
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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2020, 07:39:27 AM » |
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Nothing was "banned." If it had been "banned" it would be a crime to own or display it. It would not be available for purchase, etc. You can still fly whatever flag you wish on your property, just as any organization or individual can choose not to fly it on theirs.
Also, I fail to se how this issue has any impact on NASCAR. Last I checked, A race car does not require a flag of any kind to go fast.
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I usually watch him. I'll have to take a look. |
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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2020, 08:41:14 AM » |
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I never thought, or even considered, seeing # 43 on a Chevrolet let alone having BLM painted all over it. Even NASCAR is getting caught up in this and I'm surprised Richard is.
Well with only Ford, Chevy and Toyota in the series, I’m happy to see 43 on a Chevy. As far as the Petty family is concerned, I’m sure their sponsors had something to do with the BLM paint scheme. And to your original point, what happened to Petty Blue? You know, thats a good point. I'd rather see that number on a Chevy rather than a toyota. [ toyota should not be allowed to compete, show me a pushrod engine they sell to the public]. I'd still like to see Chrysler come back in. But, I now feel feel about the same toward them as I do the nfl. |
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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2020, 08:44:10 AM » |
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Nothing was "banned." If it had been "banned" it would be a crime to own or display it. It would not be available for purchase, etc. You can still fly whatever flag you wish on your property, just as any organization or individual can choose not to fly it on theirs.
Also, I fail to se how this issue has any impact on NASCAR. Last I checked, A race car does not require a flag of any kind to go fast.
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The impact on Nascar is that it is Nascars ban! The President of Nascar had the entire field of cars stopped while they were on the track getting ready to start the race. That’s when he made the announcement. If you had read the whole thread more closely this would have been obvious to you. Maybe you just don’t agree with the term banned that I used. I’m sure you can google his statement about the flag in question and provide a better word. |
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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2020, 10:34:36 AM » |
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I never thought, or even considered, seeing # 43 on a Chevrolet let alone having BLM painted all over it. Even NASCAR is getting caught up in this and I'm surprised Richard is.
Well with only Ford, Chevy and Toyota in the series, I’m happy to see 43 on a Chevy. As far as the Petty family is concerned, I’m sure their sponsors had something to do with the BLM paint scheme. And to your original point, what happened to Petty Blue? You know, thats a good point. I'd rather see that number on a Chevy rather than a toyota. [ toyota should not be allowed to compete, show me a pushrod engine they sell to the public]. I'd still like to see Chrysler come back in. But, I now feel feel about the same toward them as I do the nfl. toyota pushrod engine to public? 2007 thru 2020 5.7L V8 in the tundra |
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« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2020, 10:38:14 AM » |
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make sure all you southerners and anyone else up here in the northern states if have a confederate flag to wave it high and proud. Even dare say put it out back your valkyrie or other cycle flapping in the wind and see who comes up to discourage it if packing heat! you cannot STOP someone from waving the flag of any kind is their right to do so. |
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« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2020, 10:46:32 AM » |
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I don't think and NASCAR teams have that flag on their cars, so what is being banned? A fan with the Confederate flag? How about a fan with flag themed t-shirt?
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« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2020, 10:54:58 AM » |
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I never thought, or even considered, seeing # 43 on a Chevrolet let alone having BLM painted all over it. Even NASCAR is getting caught up in this and I'm surprised Richard is.
Well with only Ford, Chevy and Toyota in the series, I’m happy to see 43 on a Chevy. As far as the Petty family is concerned, I’m sure their sponsors had something to do with the BLM paint scheme. And to your original point, what happened to Petty Blue? You know, thats a good point. I'd rather see that number on a Chevy rather than a toyota. [ toyota should not be allowed to compete, show me a pushrod engine they sell to the public]. I'd still like to see Chrysler come back in. But, I now feel feel about the same toward them as I do the nfl. toyota pushrod engine to public? 2007 thru 2020 5.7L V8 in the tundra Isn't the 5.7 a 32 valve DOHC engine? |
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« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2020, 11:09:36 AM » |
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Who will have the balls to write ALL LIVES MATTER on their car?
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I don't think and NASCAR teams have that flag on their cars, so what is being banned? A fan with the Confederate flag? How about a fan with flag themed t-shirt?
Part of NASCAR is a giant in-field event, people who show up the day before in their RVs and stuff... Confederate flags are everywhere. They've had them "banned" for a while, but they've still been there. What is banned is any Confederate stuff among what is being vended on site, and no Confederate symbols on cars. They refused to let the Sons Of Confederate Veterans sponsor a car a few years ago. They use their pull to get any Confederate messages removed from the main roads leading to NASCAR events. They got this pulled down the road from the Darlington track a few years ago:  But... we'd paid for it, our lawyers made them put it back up the day before the race -Mike |
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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2020, 01:25:17 PM » |
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I never thought, or even considered, seeing # 43 on a Chevrolet let alone having BLM painted all over it. Even NASCAR is getting caught up in this and I'm surprised Richard is.
Well with only Ford, Chevy and Toyota in the series, I’m happy to see 43 on a Chevy. As far as the Petty family is concerned, I’m sure their sponsors had something to do with the BLM paint scheme. And to your original point, what happened to Petty Blue? You know, thats a good point. I'd rather see that number on a Chevy rather than a toyota. [ toyota should not be allowed to compete, show me a pushrod engine they sell to the public]. I'd still like to see Chrysler come back in. But, I now feel feel about the same toward them as I do the nfl. toyota pushrod engine to public? 2007 thru 2020 5.7L V8 in the tundra What series engine would that be ? Both the UR and I-Force are DOHC engines. [I used to own a Tundra, Land Cruiser, Highlander, never again.] I see Toyota is supposedly coming out with a 5.9L pushrod engine. As far as I know Toyota never offered to the public a 5.7L [ 355 cu in] pushrod engine as is supposedly required by NASCAR. So if they do make one I'd like to know which series it is. No one else I've talked to knows. If they do offer one to the public then I guess they are not cheating. |
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make sure all you southerners and anyone else up here in the northern states if have a confederate flag to wave it high and proud. Even dare say put it out back your valkyrie or other cycle flapping in the wind and see who comes up to discourage it if packing heat! you cannot STOP someone from waving the flag of any kind is their right to do so. I fly Bars and Stripes on my Valks. I try to be very aware of my surroundings as there are idiots that will run you over and call it an accident. So far, Oklahoma has been peaceful protest, no protest in my surrounding area. |
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