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A Black person walks into a room of people of people from other races. Nobody says anything except for greetings and nods. After an undetermined amount of time, the black person says she/he feels very uncomfortable and wants to leave.
Is this racism? Is it racist to ask why the black person feels uncomfortable?
I was told that BOTH are racist/racism.
I asked how can feeling uncomfortable, when nobody has said or done anything that can be considered racist, be racism. It just is, I was told, and that I could never understand. This person once told me a while back that it's not just what someone says and does that makes them racist. I asked what else is there?? No answer, it just is. I asked, is it possible that the person is transferring, or projecting their own thoughts and feelings onto everyone in the room? That they themselves are the one with the racists feelings or opinions? Oh boy was THAT the wrong thing to say.
I was asked if I would read a book about if provided. I said No because I don't to be convinced that racism exists where it really doesn't.
So, you don't even have to say or do anything that is considered actually racist for you to be considered and actual racist.
When did it all get so backwards.
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2020, 06:34:40 AM » |
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When you walk into a bar and you get that uneasy feeling is that racist or you might get your ass kicked.
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2020, 06:40:50 AM » |
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2020, 06:46:37 AM » |
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2020, 06:55:58 AM » |
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So When zackly they goin after uncle bens rice?  RIDE SAFE. Some body hadda ask! |
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2020, 06:59:57 AM » |
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So When zackly they goin after uncle bens rice? RIDE SAFE. Some body hadda ask! LOL ! But Uncle Ben's rice has been converted.  |
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2020, 07:02:24 AM » |
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2020, 07:07:07 AM » |
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When you walk into a bar and you get that uneasy feeling is that racist or you might get your ass kicked.
Many years ago, in FL over Christmas school break with my family, I entered a bar in Coral Gables. It was was very dark and filled exclusively with men.... very, very friendly men being very friendly with each other. It took a couple long minutes for me to figure it out; I had heard about these places, but had never actually seen one. I got a very uneasy feeling and got the hell out of there. Racism had nothing to do with it. A few years later, the same thing happened in Key West. |
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2020, 07:07:34 AM » |
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2020, 08:16:31 AM » |
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So the only thing you can do to not be racist is to quit being so white?
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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2020, 08:21:46 AM » |
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So the only thing you can do to not be racist is to quit being so white?
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2020, 08:24:48 AM » |
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So the only thing you can do to not be racist is to quit being so white?
-RP
YEP, YEp, Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.......... We've reached a point where if you're white, not being racist is racist. Being racist is racist. There's nothing you can do, you can't win. If you're non-white, nothing you can do is racist. No matter how racist it is, it isn't racist. I was raised to see the person, not the color, and I live my life accordingly. Now I'm told that's racist. |
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2020, 08:33:28 AM » |
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I know I'll be called out as a super racist, but, when times like this rise up I find more reverse racism. I see more Blacks being racist.
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2020, 08:35:00 AM » |
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I know I'll be called out as a super racist, but, when times like this rise up I find more reverse racism. I see more Blacks being racist.
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2020, 09:00:46 AM » |
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Why not - it's the truth, so help me God !
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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2020, 09:02:48 AM » |
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2020, 09:16:41 AM » |
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Ya nailed it O2S and Dan! https://www.khou.com/article/news/nation-world/uncle-bens-brand-changing-over-concerns-about-racial-stereotyping/507-53d70434-4987-45d2-8834-baf410d1198aBoycott PC food? Got to thinking about this post, hindsight being 20/20 and all... They say we are what we eat. All these years I've been consuming racist pancakes and rice without thinking twice about it. How could I have been more insensitive?!?!? It's true, I am racist. The realization has left me overwhelmed with guilt! Afterthought. I guess it's wrong for me to say, but the racist pancakes and rice tasted good! I hope they don't change the recipes.  |
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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2020, 09:38:37 AM » |
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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2020, 10:14:41 AM » |
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What gets me is walking into stores or down the street and every other word from black (mostly) young people is Nig##r this or that.
It would never occur to me to use that language on the street why does a black person get away with it
Cultural bias is not the same as racism. IMHO the # of friends of different races or religions is a bullShit argument Howard Stern called it in his skit. It was rauncy and sick but true as to what you hear on the subway in the store or on the street.
My clients are mostly brown and black. I grew up here. It has not changed much.
I am not scared nor do I think more or less of anyone for their color. So to those who say I am a racist I say kiss my white A$$
It is the stuff that comes out of your mouth or your actions that I judge folks on
Society has a long way to go to catch up.
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2020, 10:35:11 AM » |
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yah, if black people can call each other the N word no problems, why can't I? Is that reverse racism? I admit I have called a few the N word counting the number of times on my fingers the past 40+ years I have done it, but if act like one, then be called like one. I use to work with a few black people whom I called my friends we hung out together after work back in the day, definitely not ghetto material, nice guys. For me anyways, when they start acting all 'gangster' is when it changes. Told one young black punk age 19 or so tops at a WI waterpark in WI Dells with his white girlfriend about 11 or so years ago minding my own business calling me a white fat honky out of the blue to get his N... black _ss back to Illinois where he belongs getting right up into his grill face to face inches apart. He backed off just laughing and while he was walking away I said a few other choice words, young punk. If he was not black, I would have said the same thing to a Chinese or white or whatever color, just not the N word. |
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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2020, 10:43:00 AM » |
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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2020, 10:59:17 AM » |
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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2020, 11:07:54 AM » |
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When you walk into a bar and you get that uneasy feeling is that racist or you might get your ass kicked.
Many years ago, in FL over Christmas school break with my family, I entered a bar in Coral Gables. It was was very dark and filled exclusively with men.... very, very friendly men being very friendly with each other. It took a couple long minutes for me to figure it out; I had heard about these places, but had never actually seen one. I got a very uneasy feeling and got the hell out of there. Racism had nothing to do with it. A few years later, the same thing happened in Key West. By mistake I was in the Stonewall in NY, the place the police raided and started a revolution. Studio 54 was down the block from this place and I didnt know what it was either. I walked in and there was enough black leather to have a stampede and I took a look around partly out of shock and partly out of trying to understand what was happening, it literally took a few minutes to sink in. One thing I kept looking for was women, I will NEVER forget that as long as I live. Ive also been in Key West when this event was going on and me and wife left early and went a bit further north. |
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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2020, 11:10:51 AM » |
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When you walk into a bar and you get that uneasy feeling is that racist or you might get your ass kicked.
Many years ago, in FL over Christmas school break with my family, I entered a bar in Coral Gables. It was was very dark and filled exclusively with men.... very, very friendly men being very friendly with each other. It took a couple long minutes for me to figure it out; I had heard about these places, but had never actually seen one. I got a very uneasy feeling and got the hell out of there. Racism had nothing to do with it. A few years later, the same thing happened in Key West. By mistake I was in the Stonewall in NY, the place the police raided and started a revolution. Studio 54 was down the block from this place and I didnt know what it was either. I walked in and there was enough black leather to have a stampede and I took a look around partly out of shock and partly out of trying to understand what was happening it took a few minutes to sink in. One thing I kept looking for was women, I will NEVER forget that as long as I live. Ive also been in Key West when this event was going on and me and wife left early and went a bit further north. True story - I proposed to my wife in the largest gay bar in the southwest..... Long story, I'll tell it over beverages in person sometime if you're bored... |
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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2020, 11:33:15 AM » |
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It is the stuff that comes out of your mouth or your actions that I judge folks on
But that's just it, brother........ now you don't have to say or do anything. So, if it's not what you say or do, what else is there? It's the feeling that the person crying racism has at the time, I guess. When did it all get so backwards? |
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When you walk into a bar and you get that uneasy feeling is that racist or you might get your ass kicked.
Many years ago, in FL over Christmas school break with my family, I entered a bar in Coral Gables. It was was very dark and filled exclusively with men.... very, very friendly men being very friendly with each other. It took a couple long minutes for me to figure it out; I had heard about these places, but had never actually seen one. I got a very uneasy feeling and got the hell out of there. Racism had nothing to do with it. A few years later, the same thing happened in Key West. By mistake I was in the Stonewall in NY, the place the police raided and started a revolution. Studio 54 was down the block from this place and I didnt know what it was either. I walked in and there was enough black leather to have a stampede and I took a look around partly out of shock and partly out of trying to understand what was happening it took a few minutes to sink in. One thing I kept looking for was women, I will NEVER forget that as long as I live. Ive also been in Key West when this event was going on and me and wife left early and went a bit further north. True story - I proposed to my wife in the largest gay bar in the southwest..... Long story, I'll tell it over beverages in person sometime if you're bored... Was it the song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IslF_EyhMzg-RP |
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« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2020, 01:14:36 PM » |
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I call some of my friends white ni**rs.
Does that make me a double racist or just a funny guy?
I swear that everything I've said is true, so help me God!
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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2020, 01:15:21 PM » |
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Gone fer couple hours on a Ride and saw it on m s n before I went to the VRCC board. And should anyone ask-YUP I wuz bein a smart azz.  And i also have NO plans fer an apology-should anyone ask! RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2020, 01:15:31 PM » |
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Gone fer couple hours on a Ride and saw it on m s n before I went to the VRCC board. And should anyone ask-YUP I wuz bein a smart azz. And i also have NO plans fer an apology-should anyone ask! RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2020, 01:21:13 PM » |
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Someday I'm just going to lose it and every person of color (especially blacks) will get a s**tload of the worst words I have ever uttered in my life. And if they demand an apology - I'll tell them to go f**k off. Or only if they apologize for all this crap now. I'm getting tired of it. Deal with the hand you've got - it's the only one you got.
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« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2020, 01:40:33 PM » |
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« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2020, 01:45:53 PM » |
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True story - I proposed to my wife in the largest gay bar in the southwest.....So, umm, how'd she convince you to cross back over?
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« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2020, 02:02:04 PM » |
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I know I'll be called out as a super racist, but, when times like this rise up I find more reverse racism. I see more Blacks being racist.
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« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2020, 02:49:35 PM » |
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Someday I'm just going to lose it and every person of color (especially blacks) will get a s**tload of the worst words I have ever uttered in my life. And if they demand an apology - I'll tell them to go f**k off. Or only if they apologize for all this crap now. I'm getting tired of it. Deal with the hand you've got - it's the only one you got.
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« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2020, 03:52:21 PM » |
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Like the boy who cried wolf, I think the word 'racist' has been so over-used that it's lost much of it's impact. But here's an example of racism: when a cop is charged with first degree murder for firing at a criminal who fired a weapon at him just a moment earlier.
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« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2020, 03:54:27 PM » |
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does this make me a racist ?
I've had 6 black clients , 4 of them ripped me off , the other 2 are still clients/friends
I've had maybe 2000 other clients , non black, maybe 4 or so stole from me .
So , I do not want any other black clients because of the odds .
I went to a school that was mostly brown and black . I was in the minority and I had only 1 white white friend , my better friends were brown and black .
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« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2020, 04:35:47 PM » |
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I call some of my friends white ni**rs.
Does that make me a double racist or just a funny guy?
I swear that everything I've said is true, so help me God!
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I call some of my friends white ni**rs.
Does that make me a double racist or just a funny guy?
I swear that everything I've said is true, so help me God!
neither. Probably just a simple asshole. You just couldn't help it, could you? Cool smiley from behind the keyboard calling me an asshole. You should be ashamed of yourself. You can sit down now. |
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« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2020, 07:17:14 PM » |
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I call some of my friends white ni**rs.
Does that make me a double racist or just a funny guy?
I swear that everything I've said is true, so help me God!
neither. Probably just a simple asshole. You just couldn't help it, could you? Cool smiley from behind the keyboard calling me an asshole. You should be ashamed of yourself. You can sit down now. You did ask. I disagree with the butcher. If you use that word in that context it does make you not funny but also confirms that you are a racist and an asshole. That would be only if you are not African-American. You're not, are you? Here's my cool smiley.  ( Did you include a smiley when you used a racial slur toward your friends? ) |
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