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cookiedough
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« on: August 30, 2020, 07:55:56 PM »

at least a few more years maybe.  He is the last one lifting in all 3 lifts lifting the most so is at the end.

Did his PR best today especially in deadlift event 622lbs. 

https://www.facebook.com/117063188411668/videos/631208684461267

I think was total 1621lbs. for bench/squat/deadlift in 198lbs. weight class age 18/19. 



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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2020, 10:00:33 PM »

I like to see kids succeed but, I've seen a some kids push too far and get hurt, in weight lifting.

My own daughter was injured lifting weights during a competition, her coach convinced her to lift more than she should have and she dropped the bar during a lift, it landed on her neck and we weren't sure she would recover.    This was during a sanctioned event.   Her mother and I both tried to talk her out of weight lifting but, she had a natural strength and was very competitive.   

Was it worth it, no.   She'll always be bothered by that broken bone in her neck.   I still have the xrays, they scare the hell out of me.   A quarter inch closer to her spine and she...……..  never mind.

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2020, 04:18:14 AM »

I am with you RAMS on that one.  I have told my kid to stick with RAW vs. Equipped but he likes the extra 60-80 lbs. the suit gives him.  I guess I heard that powerlifting 1st came about lifting EQuipped vs. RAW then RAW became popular again now Equipped again keeps going back and forth.  I could send you all the squat 3 lifts as well and his 2nd lift squat he was off balance due to several factors (not centered, not use to monolifter squat rack never used before, taking too many steps backwards, bar was much thicker than any bar he used prior ever,, etc) .  Anyways,  I could tell he was in trouble but he went down, starting to go back up, he fell forward and luckily the spotter in back caught him reeling forward ASAP and lifted him back up in balance again, all with 595lbs. on his shoulders, not good.  He ended up doing the same 595lbs. (his best ever 600lbs. in the gym) on 3rd attempt.  

That being said,  I think lifting weights is great for the body and mind especially for the young who may not fit in with other 'sports' offered in school since kids can set their own pace, not as high pressure,  and does not hurt as long as done safely with not as much weights being used.

Coaches can sometimes be bad as was in my kids case when right after high school he got invited to represent TEAM USA in the meet in Costa Rica.    He did well placing 5th in the Nation in the adult division, NOT junior division as he should have been getting 1st place instead (another thorn in my side a kid age 18 suppose to be in under age 21 bracket thrown in adult division going against lifters age 30ish or so lifting for 10+ years vs. my kid only 1 year),  but the USA coaches not knowing what he could do did not put the correct weights on the bars too much/too little, etc. which I also disagreed with.  I guess the coaches decides on the weight used, not the lifter, at these events having no say.  I think that is WRONG and shame on the rules and coaches for being so one sided.  
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cookiedough
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2020, 04:44:42 AM »

I like to see kids succeed but, I've seen a some kids push too far and get hurt, in weight lifting.

My own daughter was injured lifting weights during a competition, her coach convinced her to lift more than she should have and she dropped the bar during a lift, it landed on her neck and we weren't sure she would recover.    This was during a sanctioned event.   Her mother and I both tried to talk her out of weight lifting but, she had a natural strength and was very competitive.   

Was it worth it, no.   She'll always be bothered by that broken bone in her neck.   I still have the xrays, they scare the hell out of me.   A quarter inch closer to her spine and she...……..  never mind.

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Sorry for your daughter having probably life long injury problems.  Spotters should have caught it ASAP but accidents can happen in any sport.  Wish your daughter would have stood up for herself and told the coach NO, I cannot do this amount of weight.  If she did speak up, shame on the coaches for not listening.  I have seen at a few events my kid was in that the spotters were very piss poor not paying attention or going up/down with the lifter mere inches away while other spotters are very good.  One time in MN meet they had an open competition where the deadlifter guy my age or older in their 50's had a VERY tight equipped suit on for deadlift and he passed out falling backwards thru the partition wall setup behind the lifters 10 feet back NO spotter behind him to catch him from doing that.  I also saw on utube videos though heavy powerlifters doing say 800lb. squat and both his kneecaps busted out from too much weight, was gross to watch.   Most coaches are good but I have seen 1 or 2 that were hard headed and his way or the hwy. as well. 

It was funny though his 1st meet he took 1st place in over 2 years ago now no one knew him a local competition for them us driving him 2 hours north to attend the meet open to any high school lifter in the area where all other schools there have powerlifting teams with coaches vs. him doing it by himself no coaches or team in our very tiny town.  He was 165lbs. at the time as a junior and all the coaches and some lifters were watching his EVERY lift.  One coach came up to him asking who his coach was.  He said no one just came up with my mom is all he said.  Coaches could not believe it.   I got the biggest chuckle out of the look on the coaches face... 2funny   
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2020, 05:52:21 AM »

That is pretty awesome congratulations, I used to leg press over 1000 lbs but never went to high on the  squat only around 500 I didn't want to throw my back out and I was not in competition only did it for training. My high on a stiff legged dead lift was around 600 I would regularly use 225 and do some reps. Great fun and something that can pay big dividends as he gets older.
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2020, 05:56:42 AM »

Congrats to you and your son. May his commitment to his sport spill over into his other endeavors in life.
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2020, 06:07:14 AM »

Wow, congratulations!!! My back hurt just watching that!!
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2020, 08:04:13 AM »

Very cool, Cookie!   cooldude
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2020, 03:35:28 PM »

Wow, congratulations!!! My back hurt just watching that!!


so did mine.  Just glad his 2nd squat spotter caught him since 595lbs. even 1 cm off balance which could tell he was,  threw him off forward horribly.   We had some break time between squat and deadlift so I decided to do some very very light bench presses and squats under 100lbs. since I have not done them since age 18.  YIKES,  I am NOT limber at all anymore.  My legs on bench in the crotch would not bend flat footed on the floor too stiff not flexible as well as just the 60lb. squat bar (bigger than I use to use by far decades ago) just hurt resting on my neck and do not even get me started on bending down all that way down doing a squat and attempting to get back up with just piddly weight being just the bar.   Cry

It was super funny though, his lifting buddy/coach before deadlifts had to take off the last latch notch to the last setting on his belt he used when 165lbs. as a junior now 194lbs. since he had trouble bending down to reach the deadlift bar.  As you can see from the link doing deadlifts with an EQUIPPED suit on VERY VERY tight leaves bruises on your body just to get it on/off,  my kid had trouble bending down that low just to reach the deadlift bar just due to the suit being tight, plus the belt being tight as well.   I got a chuckle out of that one told him he is getting old like me...   2funny

My kid and I disagree on lifting equipped vs. RAW but having never lifted EQUIPPED I guess I am no expert by far.  My theory is lifting say 60 up to 100lbs. more (depending on person) more with a tight suit on vs. no special tight suit lifting RAW is MUCH MORE weight on your joints/bones with more tendency to snap/break bones/pull muscles, etc.    My kid says just the opposite with the suit holding his back/hips, etc. in place tighter thus less tendency to break bones/pull muscles, etc.  Not sure who is right or wrong.  He attempted with a 400lb. big lifter spotter, which I did not like,  posting a video attempting with bench suit on 500lb. bench press which at 194lbs. is probably another world record which he almost did got up 3/4's of the way up before arms gave out.  Just because the 400lb. dude can do 500lbs. does not mean he should attempt it more like 435lbs. max. 

Luckily he is now an all around lifter where his junior and most of his senior year his squat was his weak link by far with bench/deadlift always top notch. 
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2020, 09:48:18 AM »

Congrats !
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